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CC Religious Discrimination

Postby bedub1 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:52 am

EDIT: This thread has devolved. Let us refocus with a simple poll.

Recently I found out that CC is actively discriminating against a single specific religion. Below are pictures from Wikipedia representing 7 different religions. Can you guess which one CC is discriminating against? Do you believe this is OK? Do you think we should be allowed to display these symbols as our avatar? Do you believe it's ok to treat these religions differently from one another? Do some rules apply to one religion, that don't apply to others?

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Islam Star and Crescent
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Hindu Swastika
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Taoism Yin Yang
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Buddhism Dharma Wheel
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Judaism Star of David
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Scientology Cross
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Postby 2dimes on Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:03 pm

Red X?
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:08 pm

2dimes wrote:Red X?

Maybe. Also, probably Robotology.

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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:36 pm

I appreciate that in this case the swastika is not a racist symbol. However, I do wonder if OP intentionally chose this image as a bit of a controversy-bait, since Diwali has dozens of symbols associated with it, such as this one

By choosing the swastika, you have chosen a symbol you know will provoke a stronger reaction, both from people who misunderstand it and from those who will rush in to defend it.
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby bedub1 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:56 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:By choosing the swastika, you have chosen a symbol you know will provoke a stronger reaction, both from people who misunderstand it and from those who will rush in to defend it.
Don't you think that's a little presumptuous on your part?
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:10 pm

No i think it correctly describes your original use of the image as an avatar and the argument your attempting to make now.
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby Metsfanmax on Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:18 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:No i think it correctly describes your original use of the image as an avatar and the argument your attempting to make now.


Context is super important in this case. The number one rule on CC is "don't be intentionally annoying." If you are choosing an avatar that you know will be controversial, just because it is controversial, then you are intentionally being annoying. If you honestly feel that using a swastika as your avatar is a representation of some religious belief, then that is probably ok. If that is actually the case, then say so. Otherwise, the mods will rightly err on the side of not offending anyone.
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby bedub1 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:36 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:No i think it correctly describes your original use of the image as an avatar and the argument your attempting to make now.

You think wrong. Sorry. Next time ask instead of presuming.

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BGtheBrain wrote:No i think it correctly describes your original use of the image as an avatar and the argument your attempting to make now.


Context is super important in this case. The number one rule on CC is "don't be intentionally annoying." If you are choosing an avatar that you know will be controversial, just because it is controversial, then you are intentionally being annoying. If you honestly feel that using a swastika as your avatar is a representation of some religious belief, then that is probably ok. If that is actually the case, then say so. Otherwise, the mods will rightly err on the side of not offending anyone.
This has nothing to do with me. I am irrelevant to the conversation. This is about CC selectively discriminating against a single specific religion. Anybody should be free to use any religious symbol from any of these religions. A single specific symbol should not be discriminated against. The symbol is a religious symbol, and nobody should be offended by it. If the mods don't want to offend people, they shouldn't selectively ban images, as I am offended.
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:42 pm

This is entirely about you because you were asked to remove the image as your avatar.

Since you're sad that CC wouldn't allow you to be "intentionally annoying" you are convinced it is a religious discrimination thing. When its not. it about you attempting to provoke a response from the community..

if you havent noticed, no one has said a word about the image being used in this post, despite the fact the post could probably be removed for trolling.
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby sempaispellcheck on Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:56 pm

I think it might be worth pointing out that there are several easily visible differences between:

A) the red Hindu swastika with slightly curved arms and dots in the middle (as seen in the OP)
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B) the black Nazi swastika with no curves and no dots

To my knowledge, only the Nazi swastika is being sanctioned on CC.
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby Butters1919 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 2:42 pm

sempaispellcheck wrote:To my knowledge, only the Nazi swastika is being sanctioned on CC.


By sanctioned, I assume (hope) you meant discouraged.
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby sniffie on Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:05 pm

Butters1919 wrote:
sempaispellcheck wrote:To my knowledge, only the Nazi swastika is being sanctioned on CC.


By sanctioned, I assume (hope) you meant discouraged.


If a player has an offensive avatar, the mods ask him/her to remove it within 24 hours. If they choose to do not, then the mods will do it for them.

So first its discouraged to wear the avatar, then sanctioned.

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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby greenoaks on Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:45 pm

sanc·tioned, sanc·tion·ing, sanc·tions
1. To give official authorization or approval to
2. To encourage or tolerate by indicating approval
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby BGtheBrain on Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:52 pm

perhaps this definition was the intent

sanctions
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sanc·tion
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noun
1.authoritative permission or approval, as for an action.
2.something that serves to support an action, condition, etc.
3.something that gives binding force, as to an oath, rule of conduct, etc.
4.Law .
a.a provision of a law enacting a penalty for disobedience or a reward for obedience.
b.the penalty or reward.

5.International Law . action by one or more states toward another state calculated to force it to comply with legal obligations.
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Re: CC Religious Discrimination

Postby bedub1 on Tue Nov 13, 2012 5:54 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:This is entirely about you because you were asked to remove the image as your avatar.

Since you're sad that CC wouldn't allow you to be "intentionally annoying" you are convinced it is a religious discrimination thing. When its not. it about you attempting to provoke a response from the community..

if you havent noticed, no one has said a word about the image being used in this post, despite the fact the post could probably be removed for trolling.

Please stop making things up that you think I am doing/thinking/feeling. It's simply unproven conjecture which adds nothing to the discussion.
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