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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby Jippd on Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:05 am

chapcrap wrote:
Jippd wrote:I'm not sure if it is a flaw or not. I'm just saying that I think any map should be improved if it will improve game play and everyone agrees that it will.

Well, I agree with that statement. I don't think it would improve gameplay for this map.


What would? I think you think I said something should be changed but I didn't. My original post was just stating that I think that maps should be changed if it improves them. I then also made another statement saying that I agreed that the D-day map was decided by the bunkers. Two separate statements in one post.
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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby swimmerdude99 on Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:18 am

D-day as is, is one of my favorite maps, if you are going to revamp it, then make an entirely new map, it would really stink to take a map some people really like the way it is to shift it to be historically accurate and change the gameplay. Just make a new map if you want somehting more "Accurate" to real life. I don't think it's fair to the mapmaker or to the process it took to get the map here. Also you can consider this, had this been brought up, WOULD the creator be forced to change the map to fit the standards? I would like to think a bit of creativity and the idea the mapmaker had would be respected and allowed to continue.
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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:22 am

swimmerdude99 wrote:D-day as is, is one of my favorite maps, if you are going to revamp it, then make an entirely new map, it would really stink to take a map some people really like the way it is to shift it to be historically accurate and change the gameplay.

The map, if ever revamped would leave the gameplay alone. But I see no reason why a new map based on the D-Day landings that is more accurate could not be made.

In fact, it should be a lot of fun do to.
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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby chapcrap on Mon Dec 03, 2012 8:59 am

Jippd wrote:
chapcrap wrote:
Jippd wrote:I'm not sure if it is a flaw or not. I'm just saying that I think any map should be improved if it will improve game play and everyone agrees that it will.

Well, I agree with that statement. I don't think it would improve gameplay for this map.


What would? I think you think I said something should be changed but I didn't. My original post was just stating that I think that maps should be changed if it improves them. I then also made another statement saying that I agreed that the D-day map was decided by the bunkers. Two separate statements in one post.

I agree with this:
Jippd wrote:I'm not sure if it is a flaw or not. I'm just saying that I think any map should be improved if it will improve game play and everyone agrees that it will.

AND

I don't think D-Day fits that category for me. I wasn't saying that you wanted it changed.
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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby notyou2 on Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:02 pm

betiko wrote:lol, interesting post! Nevertheless I think lots of maps are not historically/geographically correct anyway, gameplay prevails.


You're just saying this because you're from France and it was your country that was invaded.
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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby Chewie1 on Mon Dec 03, 2012 5:21 pm

betiko wrote:lol, interesting post! Nevertheless I think lots of maps are not historically/geographically correct anyway, gameplay prevails.



Exactly.... why on Das Schloss is there not Clint Eastwood leant up against a post shooting all the germans.


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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby persianempire on Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:22 pm

based on all these posts , it might be an even better idea to start up a new D-day map completely. this was the largest invasion of europe ever and i think the possibilitys could be endless. Respect still shown for the time and effort put in by the peoples who made the original ,but a 2nd more accurate 'battle relevant' map for the hardcore ww2 fans , i think they would all love it and give alot of input. That would be alot of work , dunno if thers any brave souls out their willing to start from scratch...
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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Dec 04, 2012 11:26 am

There is definitely room for another D-Day map that has a grander or more accurate scope. I'd like to see and would certainly give the limited input I have, if anyone wrangled the idea!


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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby notyou2 on Tue Dec 04, 2012 8:59 pm

What if there were 5 maps, one for each beach....gold, sword, juno, omaha and utah? Then a map that combined all 5?
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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby sparkyball on Tue Dec 04, 2012 9:43 pm

swimmerdude99 wrote:D-day as is, is one of my favorite maps, if you are going to revamp it, then make an entirely new map, it would really stink to take a map some people really like the way it is to shift it to be historically accurate and change the gameplay. Just make a new map if you want somehting more "Accurate" to real life. I don't think it's fair to the mapmaker or to the process it took to get the map here. Also you can consider this, had this been brought up, WOULD the creator be forced to change the map to fit the standards? I would like to think a bit of creativity and the idea the mapmaker had would be respected and allowed to continue.


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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby Gillipig on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:05 pm

Oh my lord!! This can't be true!! What a Catastrophy!!!
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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby chapcrap on Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:49 pm

Gillipig wrote:Oh my lord!! This can't be true!! What a Catastrophy!!!

Do you mean catastrophe?

Either way, I think the original discussion that was brought up is a good one. There have been multiple debates in the Foundry over maps' fairness and equal game play versus portions of the map that give a clear advantage. This is happening on Cricket, Rail Europe, Dust Bowl, etc. I think the question is whether or not some imbalance is good or not.
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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby Gillipig on Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:02 pm

chapcrap wrote:
Gillipig wrote:Oh my lord!! This can't be true!! What a Catastrophy!!!

Do you mean catastrophe?

Either way, I think the original discussion that was brought up is a good one. There have been multiple debates in the Foundry over maps' fairness and equal game play versus portions of the map that give a clear advantage. This is happening on Cricket, Rail Europe, Dust Bowl, etc. I think the question is whether or not some imbalance is good or not.


And my answer is the same, with or without misspelling, the truth is......... NO ONE GIVES A f*ck!!!
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Re: The D Day map is historically incorrect

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Dec 06, 2012 7:45 pm

koontz1973 wrote:The map, if ever revamped would leave the gameplay alone. But I see no reason why a new map based on the D-Day landings that is more accurate could not be made.

In fact, it should be a lot of fun do to.


Yup, and I think the OP should be the one to do it.
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