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Fog of war protocol

Postby ledrew on Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:59 pm

What is the protocol for giving out location and troop strength during a fog game?
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby kuma32478 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:06 pm

Frowned upon
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby AndyDufresne on Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:08 pm

kuma32478 wrote:Frowned upon

*By some people.

This is one of those never settled topics of the General discussion: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=175712


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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby chapcrap on Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:02 pm

Do whatever you think you need to in game chat in order to win the game!!

The thing about saying things in chat is that no one knows whether you are lying or telling the truth anyway, so it's not a big deal, IMO.
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby laughingcavalier on Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:11 pm

But there are some devious blabbermouthed people who I will never play fog witth becos they give away all the secrets for their own manipulative ends taaking all the fun out of the game for the other players.
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby generalhead on Tue Nov 20, 2012 5:32 pm

chapcrap wrote:Do whatever you think you need to in game chat in order to win the game!!
The thing about saying things in chat is that no one knows whether you are lying or telling the truth anyway, so it's not a big deal, IMO.

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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:14 pm

ledrew wrote:What is the protocol for giving out location and troop strength during a fog game?


Do it turn 1. Preferably give the other players your password too, so they can see for themselves.
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby ad10r3tr0 on Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:16 pm

How many threads are we gonna have on this? My god, theres like 1,000,000 threads on it... look for one before posting another one, please for the love of god.
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:43 pm

ad10r3tr0 wrote:How many threads are we gonna have on this? My god, there's like 1,000,000 threads on it... look for one before posting another one, please for the love of god.

Stop exaggerating... it's only 14,852.
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby tkr4lf on Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:48 am

In my opinion, it's okay to give out general information. Stuff like "My, that's a big stack you have in East Africa there, red", or "Wow, a triple digit stack, blue!". Giving out exact information such as "Blue has 59 troops on Kamchatca" isn't right in a fog game, at least in my view.
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby swimmerdude99 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 3:44 am

tkr4lf wrote:In my opinion, it's okay to give out general information. Stuff like "My, that's a big stack you have in East Africa there, red", or "Wow, a triple digit stack, blue!". Giving out exact information such as "Blue has 59 troops on Kamchatca" isn't right in a fog game, at least in my view.

But he's just a swine, he's probably on his way to a pig pickin right now and just rambling incomprehensibly in his few final moments.
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby koontz1973 on Wed Nov 21, 2012 4:10 am

Never do it and never will, but I understand it when players do. I love it when they agree truces and mention the border. 9 times out of 10, you get no troops along that border so it helps when planning a turn. It also gives everyone a heads up on what to expect but others are right, it could all be bull.
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby ZeekLTK on Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:24 am

I think it's important to point out things that you need other players to be aware of, but they might not be. I don't think it's cheap, if you didn't want your opponents to know what you are doing, you shouldn't let ANY of them see it. Otherwise, if I need to tell someone else what's going on to help ME, then of course I will.

For instance, in one large game I was in I was fighting red on one side of the map and saw green was also there to fight him. I drove off green, and green decided it wasn't worth it, so he went after blue instead, and left red and I to fight over that territory.

Well, yellow had no idea what was going on, but while I was stuck in a stalemate with red, green was slowly taking over blue. Based on the log and knowing green and yellow's location, I figured out where blue was and what green had already taken. Yellow/green had 1 border that was inconspicuous, but it was the point that green was about to take a huge bonus from blue on - so I of course told yellow "hey, green is about to double his troops by taking X from blue" to get yellow to step in and stop green.

I mean, maybe yellow already knew, but it's possible that he didn't (all he saw was that green had been fighting all of me, red, and blue, so it's possible he had no idea WHERE these fights were), and if he left green alone, the game was going to take a huge swing in green's favor and I couldn't let that happen - even though I had no way to do anything about it with my armies.

So it was VITAL to tell yellow what was going on, although I imagine green was probably upset that I did so. lol
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby BGtheBrain on Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:33 am

When desperate, feel free to make shit up...

"Hey red, blue has a stack of about 20 down here, i need some help"

then red gets all nervous and blue freaks out...

This should only be used when youre losing by alot. Youll still probably lose, but the chat will be funny... Also, dont make a C&A report when the person leaves you a bad rating for that...
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby #1_stunna on Wed Nov 21, 2012 9:45 am

BGtheBrain wrote:When desperate, feel free to make shit up...

"Hey red, blue has a stack of about 20 down here, i need some help"

then red gets all nervous and blue freaks out...

This should only be used when youre losing by alot. Youll still probably lose, but the chat will be funny... Also, dont make a C&A report when the person leaves you a bad rating for that...


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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby JBlombier on Wed Nov 28, 2012 3:13 pm

Our former webmaster, who made Fog of War possible, didn't have any problems sharing information on what is happening on the board when there's fog involved. So for me that makes it very clear as to what Fog of War was meant for. You can't see it, but can say it.
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Re: Fog of war protocol

Postby generalhead on Sat Dec 01, 2012 10:55 am

JBlombier wrote:Our former webmaster, who made Fog of War possible, didn't have any problems sharing information on what is happening on the board when there's fog involved. So for me that makes it very clear as to what Fog of War was meant for. You can't see it, but can say it.
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