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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby GeneralRisk on Thu Dec 20, 2012 2:21 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
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Funkyterrance wrote:
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shoop76 wrote:I think HA's quality speaks for itself. Check out the tourney win's leaderboard, its not even close. Unfortunately in this game quality often doesn't reflect the symbol next to your name.


Hmm, with 35,000 games he could win tourneys just from sheer odds so I'm not sure about that reflection. Any stat you take from him as far at totals is concerned will be a distorted reflection. You need to talk about percentages to make any real judgments about this particular player.
This is exactly what I have been referring to.
I map ranked u on Poison Rome and u got a 76 percent win ratio of which wounds impressive till u see who u mostly played. U basically farmed new recuite and low rank shit players who have no clue how to play. Your win percent really dont mean shit to me. HA plays many maps and not just 3 like u do.


That's all fine and good but we aren't talking about me. I never mentioned my own win percentages since I don't really care(I thought it was much lower than that tbh), you did. I just start public games and whoever joins, joins. Back when I started playing that map and there were more players I did get more new recruits but then again, I wasn't very high rank back then. Nowadays I get a pretty mixed bag of opponents, just look at my current games. If you're going to compare me you should at least use the a similar method to what I am using for HA and talk about my total win percentage which is much lower than my percentage on my personal favorite map.
Btw, you're welcome to join the next one, GeneralRisk. ;)
I dont play poison rome, but Im sure I could figure out that stupid ass map and Ill play u as many as u want as along as u play Stalingrad against me in the same amount.


Lol, ok if you're going to have a baby fit about it I'll let you cool off. I'm not the one picking out particular maps etc, so I don't see why I would want to play your favorite map? I've got nothing to prove tbh. :)
I agree that u have nothing to prove. Classic dubs is my favorite setting at the moment
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby HighlanderAttack on Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:57 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
GeneralRisk wrote:
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shoop76 wrote:I think HA's quality speaks for itself. Check out the tourney win's leaderboard, its not even close. Unfortunately in this game quality often doesn't reflect the symbol next to your name.


Hmm, with 35,000 games he could win tourneys just from sheer odds so I'm not sure about that reflection. Any stat you take from him as far at totals is concerned will be a distorted reflection. You need to talk about percentages to make any real judgments about this particular player.
This is exactly what I have been referring to.
I map ranked u on Poison Rome and u got a 76 percent win ratio of which wounds impressive till u see who u mostly played. U basically farmed new recuite and low rank shit players who have no clue how to play. Your win percent really dont mean shit to me. HA plays many maps and not just 3 like u do.


That's all fine and good but we aren't talking about me. I never mentioned my own win percentages since I don't really care(I thought it was much lower than that tbh), you did. I just start public games and whoever joins, joins. Back when I started playing that map and there were more players I did get more new recruits but then again, I wasn't very high rank back then. Nowadays I get a pretty mixed bag of opponents, just look at my current games. If you're going to compare me you should at least use the a similar method to what I am using for HA and talk about my total win percentage which is much lower than my percentage on my personal favorite map.
Btw, you're welcome to join the next one, GeneralRisk. ;)


I am curious to what method you used to judge me. The amount of games is part of it. I used to be one of the best 1v1 players on this site with just normal default settings. My win rate in tourneys was extremely high and probably still is--but there is not way presently to figure out win percentage in tourneys compared with amount of tourneys joined. I am sure mine would be high, but I am not manually figuring it out. It seems to me you like to judge and antagonize people for fun--that would be my judgement about you. Since we are all virtual to each other on this site--that does not matter either. Enjoy trying to figure out people on this site.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:05 pm

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I am curious to what method you used to judge me. The amount of games is part of it. I used to be one of the best 1v1 players on this site with just normal default settings. My win rate in tourneys was extremely high and probably still is--but there is not way presently to figure out win percentage in tourneys compared with amount of tourneys joined. I am sure mine would be high, but I am not manually figuring it out. It seems to me you like to judge and antagonize people for fun--that would be my judgement about you. Since we are all virtual to each other on this site--that does not matter either. Enjoy trying to figure out people on this site.


Well I'm sorry you feel that way but that's not my game, I just call them like I see them.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby macbone on Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:11 pm

Funky, have you ever played HighlanderAttack? He's a beast, man. I'm amazed he played at such a high level whilst playing so many games simultaneously.

Edit - I thought I had played more games vs. HA. I guess the sting of losing the final game of a tournament to him has haunted me to this day. =)
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:12 pm

GeneralRisk wrote:I agree that u have nothing to prove.


You should really learn to control your emotions freund, you're a disgrace to your uniform. ;)
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:14 pm

macbone wrote:Funky, have you ever played HighlanderAttack? He's a beast, man. I'm amazed he played at such a high level whilst playing so many games simultaneously.


I think you guys are misunderstanding me, If you look back I never said he was a bad player. I just implied that his notoriety amongst his peers on cc was his game count. If you all want to confront me for what I was actually saying I'm game but if you are going to twist my words it's not really worthwhile for me.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby HighlanderAttack on Thu Dec 20, 2012 10:45 pm

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macbone wrote:Funky, have you ever played HighlanderAttack? He's a beast, man. I'm amazed he played at such a high level whilst playing so many games simultaneously.


I think you guys are misunderstanding me, If you look back I never said he was a bad player. I just implied that his notoriety amongst his peers on cc was his game count. If you all want to confront me for what I was actually saying I'm game but if you are going to twist my words it's not really worthwhile for me.


But you do not even know me and you judge my notoriety is my game count. I guess it does not matter what anyone thinks about you here. The reality is I am trying to like CC again, but still after six months of less than ten active games at a time--It is still not coming back to me.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby chipv on Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:07 am

I can tell you that HighlanderAttack's notoriety has always been how brilliant a player he is, not the quantity of games played. All of the best 1v1 players who have played on the site will
tell you that not only is he damn difficult to beat, he is also not afraid to take on allcomers.

His game count is a statistic that is too easy to measure, his tactical genius is not.

I'll give you somes games, HA, if you like, just for old times sake.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:34 am

chipv wrote:I can tell you that HighlanderAttack's notoriety has always been how brilliant a player he is, not the quantity of games played. All of the best 1v1 players who have played on the site will
tell you that not only is he damn difficult to beat, he is also not afraid to take on allcomers.

His game count is a statistic that is too easy to measure, his tactical genius is not.

I'll give you somes games, HA, if you like, just for old times sake.


Again, I'm not saying hes a weak player, I'm just saying that all I personally ever heard about him was:

A: He's played a bajillion games.
B: He's organized a bajillion tournaments.

So from the standpoint of someone who hasn't been here for more than half a decade, yeah, that's what I know of him. He's stated more than once that it's not the game itself that he has lost interest in, it's the community. I'm trying to think of reasons why that might be and one possibility is that he doesn't command the respect he may have at one time. It's not a preposterous suggestion, it's just an uncomfortable one.
See, I've gotten the impression from the little posts I've read by HA in the past that he much prefers to associate with the old school of players since they know who he is, his reputation so to speak. I've just gotten the sense in my travels that he's not interested in those newer players who look at him as an equal.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby GeneralRisk on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:32 am

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chipv wrote:I can tell you that HighlanderAttack's notoriety has always been how brilliant a player he is, not the quantity of games played. All of the best 1v1 players who have played on the site will
tell you that not only is he damn difficult to beat, he is also not afraid to take on allcomers.

His game count is a statistic that is too easy to measure, his tactical genius is not.

I'll give you somes games, HA, if you like, just for old times sake.


Again, I'm not saying hes a weak player, I'm just saying that all I personally ever heard about him was:

A: He's played a bajillion games.
B: He's organized a bajillion tournaments.

So from the standpoint of someone who hasn't been here for more than half a decade, yeah, that's what I know of him. He's stated more than once that it's not the game itself that he has lost interest in, it's the community. I'm trying to think of reasons why that might be and one possibility is that he doesn't command the respect he may have at one time. It's not a preposterous suggestion, it's just an uncomfortable one.
See, I've gotten the impression from the little posts I've read by HA in the past that he much prefers to associate with the old school of players since they know who he is, his reputation so to speak. I've just gotten the sense in my travels that he's not interested in those newer players who look at him as an equal.
You have been a member for almost 2 years now. If all you know about HA is A: and B: then you obviously were too busy farming new recruits and low rank idiots.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby HighlanderAttack on Fri Dec 21, 2012 6:27 am

chipv wrote:I can tell you that HighlanderAttack's notoriety has always been how brilliant a player he is, not the quantity of games played. All of the best 1v1 players who have played on the site will
tell you that not only is he damn difficult to beat, he is also not afraid to take on allcomers.

His game count is a statistic that is too easy to measure, his tactical genius is not.

I'll give you somes games, HA, if you like, just for old times sake.


Wow-are you back--thanks for the compliments. I did a double take when I saw your name listed. This is a reason to get excited about CC again.


I honestly do not need anymore King's Court beat downs from you :), but we could play a doubles game. Send me an invite :).

Great to see you back if you are back.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Dec 21, 2012 9:57 am

Funkyterrance wrote:
chipv wrote:I can tell you that HighlanderAttack's notoriety has always been how brilliant a player he is, not the quantity of games played. All of the best 1v1 players who have played on the site will
tell you that not only is he damn difficult to beat, he is also not afraid to take on allcomers.

His game count is a statistic that is too easy to measure, his tactical genius is not.

I'll give you somes games, HA, if you like, just for old times sake.


Again, I'm not saying hes a weak player, I'm just saying that all I personally ever heard about him was:

A: He's played a bajillion games.
B: He's organized a bajillion tournaments.

So from the standpoint of someone who hasn't been here for more than half a decade, yeah, that's what I know of him. He's stated more than once that it's not the game itself that he has lost interest in, it's the community. I'm trying to think of reasons why that might be and one possibility is that he doesn't command the respect he may have at one time. It's not a preposterous suggestion, it's just an uncomfortable one.
See, I've gotten the impression from the little posts I've read by HA in the past that he much prefers to associate with the old school of players since they know who he is, his reputation so to speak. I've just gotten the sense in my travels that he's not interested in those newer players who look at him as an equal.

I'll disagree.

I respect HA, but I don't worship him. I could say some very good things about him and I could also say some bad things about him, but I won't do either. I think you've really derailed this thread with your theory that this is about HA's personality.

I think the truth is much closer to what you and I discussed a while back (Three months ago? four? I can't put my finger on the real time frame) when you returned to CC after a long absence and you were the one saying, "CC isn't like it used to be." How the passage of a few months has changed your tune!

If you recall, at the time I told you it's just "You Can't Go Home Again Syndrome" and that's all it is with HA, also. Quite simply, nothing is as good as you remember it, not because it has changed, but because you have. You're older, more jaded, a little closer to the end of the mortal coil. Your friends' jokes aren't as funny as they used to be, not because they've changed, but because you've heard them before.

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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby AAFitz on Fri Dec 21, 2012 10:02 am

I feel like this latest conversation proves CC is what it always was and has been. :lol:
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby HighlanderAttack on Fri Dec 21, 2012 11:28 am

Well I am trying to get that good feeling back :) I have actually played more and been involved more in the last two days than I have all month.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Dec 21, 2012 1:56 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
chipv wrote:I can tell you that HighlanderAttack's notoriety has always been how brilliant a player he is, not the quantity of games played. All of the best 1v1 players who have played on the site will
tell you that not only is he damn difficult to beat, he is also not afraid to take on allcomers.

His game count is a statistic that is too easy to measure, his tactical genius is not.

I'll give you somes games, HA, if you like, just for old times sake.


Again, I'm not saying hes a weak player, I'm just saying that all I personally ever heard about him was:

A: He's played a bajillion games.
B: He's organized a bajillion tournaments.

So from the standpoint of someone who hasn't been here for more than half a decade, yeah, that's what I know of him. He's stated more than once that it's not the game itself that he has lost interest in, it's the community. I'm trying to think of reasons why that might be and one possibility is that he doesn't command the respect he may have at one time. It's not a preposterous suggestion, it's just an uncomfortable one.
See, I've gotten the impression from the little posts I've read by HA in the past that he much prefers to associate with the old school of players since they know who he is, his reputation so to speak. I've just gotten the sense in my travels that he's not interested in those newer players who look at him as an equal.

I'll disagree.

I respect HA, but I don't worship him. I could say some very good things about him and I could also say some bad things about him, but I won't do either. I think you've really derailed this thread with your theory that this is about HA's personality.

I think the truth is much closer to what you and I discussed a while back (Three months ago? four? I can't put my finger on the real time frame) when you returned to CC after a long absence and you were the one saying, "CC isn't like it used to be." How the passage of a few months has changed your tune!

If you recall, at the time I told you it's just "You Can't Go Home Again Syndrome" and that's all it is with HA, also. Quite simply, nothing is as good as you remember it, not because it has changed, but because you have. You're older, more jaded, a little closer to the end of the mortal coil. Your friends' jokes aren't as funny as they used to be, not because they've changed, but because you've heard them before.

When I first discovered the Peanut Buster Parfait I thought I had opened the gateway to Paradise. Today I eat one and, while it's still enjoyable in its own way, objectively speaking it's just a huge pile of that plastic shit Americans call "chocolate" with waaay too much sugar and not enough cacao, and a bunch of ordinary peanuts. It hasn't changed; I have. CC hasn't changed; you and HA have.


To be fair I got over my "CC isn't what it used to be" phase pretty quickly. I think it was about two days worth of griping? ;)
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby HOWITZERHAL on Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:15 am

Well HA....Comming into my fourth year here in CC.....I must admit that for the last year I have had similar issues...I love the game...but hated the game at the same time....during this time my rank dropped dramatically, nothing I did felt right, I just felt something was missing...... If it wasn't for all my budds in DYN I would have probably left awhile ago.......I am still here on CC because I still play every day with the same guys I have been playing on-line RISK with for the last 10-12 years......besides I consider this game to be therapy

I can only say, the problem isn't with CC, but with me...The last month or so, I have started to get my act together again, and feel alot better with my ' CC experience'...I am playing alot of different maps now (which is kinda exciting and noobish) and though I told myself I didn't give a rats ass about rank, the slump in itself had a negative impact on me.....so now I don't look where I am at on the scoreboard, but what else I can learn from different games


I am not saying that your problem is rank......but maybe a bit of burnout on the sameness....try things you havent done in awhile or never have tried....ya never know....

That's my .02 cents....

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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby AAFitz on Sun Dec 23, 2012 4:50 pm

HighlanderAttack wrote:Well I am trying to get that good feeling back :) I have actually played more and been involved more in the last two days than I have all month.


And thats awesome, but on some level you must just accept that you can possibly never regain the originality of the place that you first found, because it just isnt original for you anymore.

For me I was pretty much done, but trench warfare has me playing more than I have in the last few years, or longer.

Its not that CC didnt have more to offer though, it was that I pretty much played most everything that could be played.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby HighlanderAttack on Sun Dec 23, 2012 10:09 pm

AAFitz wrote:
HighlanderAttack wrote:Well I am trying to get that good feeling back :) I have actually played more and been involved more in the last two days than I have all month.


And thats awesome, but on some level you must just accept that you can possibly never regain the originality of the place that you first found, because it just isnt original for you anymore.

For me I was pretty much done, but trench warfare has me playing more than I have in the last few years, or longer.

Its not that CC didnt have more to offer though, it was that I pretty much played most everything that could be played.



I probably should have posted CC is not what it used to be to me. That seems to be what I have gotten out of this. Even though I have enjoyed this week, I still have no want to hit those 200 active games again. I am at a high for the last six months of 13 games and I am fine with that :). I think the challenge to catch blitz on tourney wins way back when had to be my most exciting time on CC. The other really great time was the ladder we had in the medal heads group. Only time will tell what else CC brings going forward.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby codeblue1018 on Mon Dec 24, 2012 12:40 am

Clearly the site has changed a great deal over the years and to many, that's great, however, some do not like major change and that's fine also; games can still be played just like back in 2006-2007 and on; after all, those original maps are still there and so are some of the old-timers that are still hanging around. What I miss most I think are some of the players that up and left who showed me the ropes as I was coming up; many class act guys. People don't quit CC; they merely take short or extended breaks, but they eventually return. :lol:
Hell I have 7k completed games, I can't imagine 30k+, lol. I play a whole lot less than I used to; I play mostly clan games and games with clan mates nowadays.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby Mageplunka69 on Mon Dec 24, 2012 9:17 am

I love this site, but i understand Ha,s pain too ♥
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby rdsrds2120 on Mon Dec 24, 2012 4:59 pm

Mageplunka69 wrote:I love this site, but i understand Ha,s pain too ♥


I wish I could have the feeling of being a new, free member again: discovering the settings, maps, and people, really had me hooked! It was probably my favorite part of my history on CC.

Maybe I should get a regular team together and try as many new maps as I can...at least one game on each, sounds good :)

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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby HOWITZERHAL on Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:37 am

If ya ever decide to do that...send me an invite.....


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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby greenoaks on Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:05 pm

rdsrds2120 wrote:
Mageplunka69 wrote:I love this site, but i understand Ha,s pain too ♥


I wish I could have the feeling of being a new, free member again: discovering the settings, maps, and people, really had me hooked! It was probably my favorite part of my history on CC.

Maybe I should get a regular team together and try as many new maps as I can...at least one game on each, sounds good :)

BMO

send me an invite for the other team.

i have played most maps and i'm crap at almost all of the ones that don't have Realms in the title.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby chapcrap on Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:23 pm

greenoaks wrote:i have played most maps and i'm crap at almost all of the ones that don't have Realms in the title.

He's telling the truth.
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Re: CC is not what it used to be

Postby john9blue on Wed Dec 26, 2012 2:54 am

personally, the reason i gradually stopped playing risk games is that the gameplay is simply not deep enough to capture my interest past a few hundred games... which is certainly no fault of CC's (i doubt i would have made it to 50 games if it was just one map)... it's just an inherent part of the game design. after a while, there was just nothing NEW for me to experience. that's largely why i stopped creating my map and hosting my tournament right before they were completed... i had already experienced what i came for and saw no reason to see them through to the end. it would have been just a bunch of busywork. selfish? perhaps.
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