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Re: Old feedback system

Postby decoulombe on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:39 pm

...and the more CC grew, the more complaints y'all would get. But then there were people like AAfitz who never got negative complaints (except one and everyone knew it was a phony), simply because he was a fun guy to be with. In truth, there is no honest way to be completely fair, but at least the old feedback system allowed us to be more personalized with out responses. Do you still get a lot of complaints, even with the new system?
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby king achilles on Mon Jan 21, 2013 11:45 pm

Yes, we still do get complaints from time to time whenever someone gets a negative rating. Generally, whether a player gets into an argument, got baited or flamed, was called names, swore at, accused, or didn't do anything rude, or even was the instigator of the game, and gets a negative feedback, he/she will file a complaint about it.
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby SaMejoHn on Tue Jan 22, 2013 12:04 am

Remove ALL ratings.Start thumbs up, thumbs down system. If you would play with user again then thumbs up, if not thumbs down. i personally only gave ratings because there were medals for it..i have 576 ratings left and it still pains me that I gave 76 more ratings than necessary.
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby CBlake on Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:13 am

king achilles wrote:Yes, we still do get complaints from time to time whenever someone gets a negative rating. Generally, whether a player gets into an argument, got baited or flamed, was called names, swore at, accused, or didn't do anything rude, or even was the instigator of the game, and gets a negative feedback, he/she will file a complaint about it.


Ok well what's the difference between ratings and feedback as far as negative ratings?? It's all the same, you can leave 1 stars for all if you wanted to. I just don't see the harm in being able to say exactly why in text someone gets the rating they receive, because after all you were going to leave it in the first place right?
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby decoulombe on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:33 pm

I always liked that fact we could personalize our comments. I had some great comments (Twill, lackattack, AAfitz, among others) and one of the reasons among other life events why I had time out from CC was because I was upset that my feedback was taken off :oops: It has been a couple of years now, but l finally got board and decided to play again on a limited basis =D> =D> :mrgreen: Anyways now it's just more confusing. We used to stay away from the bad players with 99% thumbs down (and typically the biggest complainers).

Hey maybe we can start a feedback committee with limited jurisdiction over the feedback system. It's work a try ;-)

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king achilles wrote:Yes, we still do get complaints from time to time whenever someone gets a negative rating. Generally, whether a player gets into an argument, got baited or flamed, was called names, swore at, accused, or didn't do anything rude, or even was the instigator of the game, and gets a negative feedback, he/she will file a complaint about it.


Ok well what's the difference between ratings and feedback as far as negative ratings?? It's all the same, you can leave 1 stars for all if you wanted to. I just don't see the harm in being able to say exactly why in text someone gets the rating they receive, because after all you were going to leave it in the first place right?
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby Gilligan on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:34 pm

decoulombe wrote:I always liked that fact we could personalize our comments. I had some great comments (Twill, lackattack, AAfitz, among others) and one of the reasons among other life events why I had time out from CC was because I was upset that my feedback was taken off :oops: It has been a couple of years now, but l finally got board and decided to play again on a limited basis =D> =D> :mrgreen: Anyways now it's just more confusing. We used to stay away from the bad players with 99% thumbs down (and typically the biggest complainers).

Hey maybe we can start a feedback committee with limited jurisdiction over the feedback system. It's work a try ;-)

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king achilles wrote:Yes, we still do get complaints from time to time whenever someone gets a negative rating. Generally, whether a player gets into an argument, got baited or flamed, was called names, swore at, accused, or didn't do anything rude, or even was the instigator of the game, and gets a negative feedback, he/she will file a complaint about it.


Ok well what's the difference between ratings and feedback as far as negative ratings?? It's all the same, you can leave 1 stars for all if you wanted to. I just don't see the harm in being able to say exactly why in text someone gets the rating they receive, because after all you were going to leave it in the first place right?


Feedback is still viewable :arrow: http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... decoulombe
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby CBlake on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:37 pm

Gilligan wrote:
decoulombe wrote:I always liked that fact we could personalize our comments. I had some great comments (Twill, lackattack, AAfitz, among others) and one of the reasons among other life events why I had time out from CC was because I was upset that my feedback was taken off :oops: It has been a couple of years now, but l finally got board and decided to play again on a limited basis =D> =D> :mrgreen: Anyways now it's just more confusing. We used to stay away from the bad players with 99% thumbs down (and typically the biggest complainers).

Hey maybe we can start a feedback committee with limited jurisdiction over the feedback system. It's work a try ;-)

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king achilles wrote:Yes, we still do get complaints from time to time whenever someone gets a negative rating. Generally, whether a player gets into an argument, got baited or flamed, was called names, swore at, accused, or didn't do anything rude, or even was the instigator of the game, and gets a negative feedback, he/she will file a complaint about it.


Ok well what's the difference between ratings and feedback as far as negative ratings?? It's all the same, you can leave 1 stars for all if you wanted to. I just don't see the harm in being able to say exactly why in text someone gets the rating they receive, because after all you were going to leave it in the first place right?


Feedback is still viewable :arrow: http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... decoulombe


Yea I realize, however you cannot leave it anymore, that's one of the coolest things about it. I can look back and see what exactly each one of my old buddies had to say about the experiences we had playing together and even leave some fun loving things as well.
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby decoulombe on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:41 pm

Ha ha.....you mean I went to pout on a desert island for nothing. :oops: :oops: :oops:
It is nice to see the feedback, but I wish there was a way we could bring it back. =D> =D>

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decoulombe wrote:I always liked that fact we could personalize our comments. I had some great comments (Twill, lackattack, AAfitz, among others) and one of the reasons among other life events why I had time out from CC was because I was upset that my feedback was taken off :oops: It has been a couple of years now, but l finally got board and decided to play again on a limited basis =D> =D> :mrgreen: Anyways now it's just more confusing. We used to stay away from the bad players with 99% thumbs down (and typically the biggest complainers).

Hey maybe we can start a feedback committee with limited jurisdiction over the feedback system. It's work a try ;-)

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king achilles wrote:Yes, we still do get complaints from time to time whenever someone gets a negative rating. Generally, whether a player gets into an argument, got baited or flamed, was called names, swore at, accused, or didn't do anything rude, or even was the instigator of the game, and gets a negative feedback, he/she will file a complaint about it.


Ok well what's the difference between ratings and feedback as far as negative ratings?? It's all the same, you can leave 1 stars for all if you wanted to. I just don't see the harm in being able to say exactly why in text someone gets the rating they receive, because after all you were going to leave it in the first place right?


Feedback is still viewable :arrow: http://www.conquerclub.com/player.php?m ... decoulombe
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby decoulombe on Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:43 pm

I still think we should start a feedback committee. That would ease the tension of the mods and admins.
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby CBlake on Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:51 pm

decoulombe wrote:I still think we should start a feedback committee. That would ease the tension of the mods and admins.


What if the feedback was optional and controlled by the player? He or she can decide to have feedback enabled or disabled and the ratings are still the primary source and feedback is only secondary and more for enjoyment?
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby decoulombe on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:02 pm

Both ideas are good. Maybe we should take this to the suggestions area.
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby king achilles on Tue Jan 22, 2013 10:57 pm

It's can all look nice as long as you are only getting positive feedbacks/ratings. It becomes different once you start getting negative ratings.

Let's say it's a 3 player game and we eventually both went after the same territory and attacked each other until it got us both weak, making the 3rd player go too strong and win. We had an argument in the game blaming each other of who was responsible for our loss.

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You gave me a negative feedback with no comments.

I also gave you a negative feedback and add personal comments like:
"a total douche bag! Didn't know how to play! A complete waste of time!! DO NOT PLAY games with this kid! She is whiner and a loser! Put her on foe."

I also give a feedback to the winner saying:
"I could have won the game if it wasn't for the douche (insert name) who either didn't know how to play or had a secret alliance with a cheater. I reported them but nothing came out of it. I had better strategy but the dice made sure you win. Can't fight that with CC on your side."
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You contact CC to get my feedback for you be removed as you feel you were not the instigator and were only defending yourself, etc.
I, obviously, do not think so. I also think that my feedback for you should stay as that is my opinion of you.
As I stated before from my previous post, I will also add that if ever these feedbacks get removed, I will demand all my negative feedbacks be deleted just the same.
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby decoulombe on Tue Jan 22, 2013 11:58 pm

I would recommend perhaps only to have feedback that can be deleted though not added by the user/ then have a system with only one feedback per player, so as to not have player#1 and player#2 buddying up with a load of feedback.
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby CBlake on Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:49 am

king achilles wrote:It's can all look nice as long as you are only getting positive feedbacks/ratings. It becomes different once you start getting negative ratings.

Let's say it's a 3 player game and we eventually both went after the same territory and attacked each other until it got us both weak, making the 3rd player go too strong and win. We had an argument in the game blaming each other of who was responsible for our loss.

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You gave me a negative feedback with no comments.

I also gave you a negative feedback and add personal comments like:
"a total douche bag! Didn't know how to play! A complete waste of time!! DO NOT PLAY games with this kid! She is whiner and a loser! Put her on foe."

I also give a feedback to the winner saying:
"I could have won the game if it wasn't for the douche (insert name) who either didn't know how to play or had a secret alliance with a cheater. I reported them but nothing came out of it. I had better strategy but the dice made sure you win. Can't fight that with CC on your side."
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You contact CC to get my feedback for you be removed as you feel you were not the instigator and were only defending yourself, etc.
I, obviously, do not think so. I also think that my feedback for you should stay as that is my opinion of you.
As I stated before from my previous post, I will also add that if ever these feedbacks get removed, I will demand all my negative feedbacks be deleted just the same.


I get what you are saying completely and that is why feedback can't be an official measure..
However, I was saying as a secondary and more personal level of feedback you could be able to express in writing whatever you want to say, that way who cares if someone writes something bad it doesn't mean anything.. Heck you could even have a system where the user could just deleted it themselves. I just hate being subjected to bland tags that are one word.
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby decoulombe on Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:20 am

Anotherwards, a unique friend only feedback system. That actually is related to one of the suggestions I made regarding a more social facebook, with an expanded friend system, but that is going off topic... ;)

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king achilles wrote:It's can all look nice as long as you are only getting positive feedbacks/ratings. It becomes different once you start getting negative ratings.

Let's say it's a 3 player game and we eventually both went after the same territory and attacked each other until it got us both weak, making the 3rd player go too strong and win. We had an argument in the game blaming each other of who was responsible for our loss.

============================
You gave me a negative feedback with no comments.

I also gave you a negative feedback and add personal comments like:
"a total douche bag! Didn't know how to play! A complete waste of time!! DO NOT PLAY games with this kid! She is whiner and a loser! Put her on foe."

I also give a feedback to the winner saying:
"I could have won the game if it wasn't for the douche (insert name) who either didn't know how to play or had a secret alliance with a cheater. I reported them but nothing came out of it. I had better strategy but the dice made sure you win. Can't fight that with CC on your side."
============================

You contact CC to get my feedback for you be removed as you feel you were not the instigator and were only defending yourself, etc.
I, obviously, do not think so. I also think that my feedback for you should stay as that is my opinion of you.
As I stated before from my previous post, I will also add that if ever these feedbacks get removed, I will demand all my negative feedbacks be deleted just the same.


I get what you are saying completely and that is why feedback can't be an official measure..
However, I was saying as a secondary and more personal level of feedback you could be able to express in writing whatever you want to say, that way who cares if someone writes something bad it doesn't mean anything.. Heck you could even have a system where the user could just deleted it themselves. I just hate being subjected to bland tags that are one word.
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Re: Old feedback system

Postby rhp 1 on Tue Jan 29, 2013 7:06 pm

king achilles wrote:It's can all look nice as long as you are only getting positive feedbacks/ratings. It becomes different once you start getting negative ratings.

Let's say it's a 3 player game and we eventually both went after the same territory and attacked each other until it got us both weak, making the 3rd player go too strong and win. We had an argument in the game blaming each other of who was responsible for our loss.

============================
You gave me a negative feedback with no comments.

I also gave you a negative feedback and add personal comments like:
"a total douche bag! Didn't know how to play! A complete waste of time!! DO NOT PLAY games with this kid! She is whiner and a loser! Put her on foe."

I also give a feedback to the winner saying:
"I could have won the game if it wasn't for the douche (insert name) who either didn't know how to play or had a secret alliance with a cheater. I reported them but nothing came out of it. I had better strategy but the dice made sure you win. Can't fight that with CC on your side."
============================

You contact CC to get my feedback for you be removed as you feel you were not the instigator and were only defending yourself, etc.
I, obviously, do not think so. I also think that my feedback for you should stay as that is my opinion of you.
As I stated before from my previous post, I will also add that if ever these feedbacks get removed, I will demand all my negative feedbacks be deleted just the same.



so it's a simple clerical issue that is the problem here.. you don't like the e-tickets KA...lol.. I'll speak for myself and say bring em back.... and please fellow CC'ers... give me all the negative feedbacks you can muster...
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