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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby AslanTheKing on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:28 pm

xeno wrote:I do. And if you don't like the dice so much throw that premium my way ill be a higher rank than you in less than a day


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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby AslanTheKing on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:33 pm

betiko wrote:
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betiko wrote:I suggest you to use a notebook and write down every single roll you make on the site (so no more autos, carefull not to run out of time rolling 150 vs 150 lol) It's funny cause when i go on your overall battle outcome results on your page they are all positive in your CC lifetime! (i guess battle outcomes are quite more important than dice stats... you can still lose 2 troops rolling 666!)


i have no idea how to read or understand that battle outcome

can u explain in simple way?


basically there are 6 types of dice attacks possible, and they are all listed on your battle outcome page. Each of these attack types have a different success rate and you are given a +/-% compared to the normal success rate. You can see that you are far from unlucky, you are positive or neutral evrywhere.



this 6 dice attack types, what is that again, im confused with the 1 vs 1 at the battle outcome page,
i cant attack 1 troop with 1
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby rhp 1 on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:48 pm

is this thread to be taken seriously? I'm finding that difficult to do...
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby betiko on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:49 pm

AslanTheKing wrote:
betiko wrote:
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betiko wrote:I suggest you to use a notebook and write down every single roll you make on the site (so no more autos, carefull not to run out of time rolling 150 vs 150 lol) It's funny cause when i go on your overall battle outcome results on your page they are all positive in your CC lifetime! (i guess battle outcomes are quite more important than dice stats... you can still lose 2 troops rolling 666!)


i have no idea how to read or understand that battle outcome

can u explain in simple way?


basically there are 6 types of dice attacks possible, and they are all listed on your battle outcome page. Each of these attack types have a different success rate and you are given a +/-% compared to the normal success rate. You can see that you are far from unlucky, you are positive or neutral evrywhere.



this 6 dice attack types, what is that again, im confused with the 1 vs 1 at the battle outcome page,
i cant attack 1 troop with 1


it's the number of dice you roll. 1v1 dice rolled is actually a 2 territory attacking a 1.
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby betiko on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:51 pm

rhp 1 wrote:is this thread to be taken seriously? I'm finding that difficult to do...


aslan seems willing to listen to mathematical facts, no reason not to end a joke thread into a serious one! ;)
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby spiesr on Fri Feb 08, 2013 7:53 pm

The six different types of possible assaults (based on dice) are:
3 vs 2
3 vs 1
2 vs 2
2 vs 1
1 vs 2
1 vs 1
These are the number of dice rolled, not the number of troops involved. (IE 2 vs 2 is when both the attacker and defender roll 2 dice.) The results are kept on a per roll basis, and do not reflect overall battle result.
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby AslanTheKing on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:08 pm

spiesr wrote:The six different types of possible assaults (based on dice) are:
3 vs 2
3 vs 1
2 vs 2
2 vs 1
1 vs 2
1 vs 1
These are the number of dice rolled, not the number of troops involved. (IE 2 vs 2 is when both the attacker and defender roll 2 dice.) The results are kept on a per roll basis, and do not reflect overall battle result.


so lets say i did sign up today and have played no game yet,
in my first game and attack , i would have dice ( n ot troops ) 3 vs 2 ( where 3 is the attacker ? and 2 the defender ? )

and my 3 dice have 6 6 1, and my opponent with his 2 dice has 6 6

what would my battle outcome look like in percentage ?

right now i have assault - 4 ( minus 4 )
total - 4 ( minus 4 )

and when do i have 3 dice, and when do i have 2 dice ? and when do i have 1 dice
i have to start studying and understanding this, otherwise i will carry on entertaining u with my conspiracy posts
I used to roll the daizz
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby betiko on Fri Feb 08, 2013 8:31 pm

AslanTheKing wrote:
spiesr wrote:The six different types of possible assaults (based on dice) are:
3 vs 2
3 vs 1
2 vs 2
2 vs 1
1 vs 2
1 vs 1
These are the number of dice rolled, not the number of troops involved. (IE 2 vs 2 is when both the attacker and defender roll 2 dice.) The results are kept on a per roll basis, and do not reflect overall battle result.


so lets say i did sign up today and have played no game yet,
in my first game and attack , i would have dice ( n ot troops ) 3 vs 2 ( where 3 is the attacker ? and 2 the defender ? )

and my 3 dice have 6 6 1, and my opponent with his 2 dice has 6 6

what would my battle outcome look like in percentage ?

right now i have assault - 4 ( minus 4 )
total - 4 ( minus 4 )

and when do i have 3 dice, and when do i have 2 dice ? and when do i have 1 dice
i have to start studying and understanding this, otherwise i will carry on entertaining u with my conspiracy posts


to roll 3 attacker dice you need minimum a 4 stack as the troop holding the territory doesn t attack.
if you stop there after your example, you would have a battle outcome of -100% on the 3vs2

for attack:
3 dice with a 4 stack minimum
2 dice for a 3 stack ect

for defense:
2 dice for 2 and over
1 for 1

in case of draw, the defender always wins.
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby xeno on Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:44 am

AslanTheKing wrote:
xeno wrote:I do. And if you don't like the dice so much throw that premium my way ill be a higher rank than you in less than a day


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I think if I had a job and saw that membership was going to stabilize I might put 25 down for premium but the last time I bought premium it was five bucks cheaper and there were more people here and I still thought lack was ripping us off
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby chang50 on Sat Feb 09, 2013 1:51 am

AslanTheKing wrote:
spiesr wrote:The six different types of possible assaults (based on dice) are:
3 vs 2
3 vs 1
2 vs 2
2 vs 1
1 vs 2
1 vs 1
These are the number of dice rolled, not the number of troops involved. (IE 2 vs 2 is when both the attacker and defender roll 2 dice.) The results are kept on a per roll basis, and do not reflect overall battle result.


so lets say i did sign up today and have played no game yet,
in my first game and attack , i would have dice ( n ot troops ) 3 vs 2 ( where 3 is the attacker ? and 2 the defender ? )

and my 3 dice have 6 6 1, and my opponent with his 2 dice has 6 6

what would my battle outcome look like in percentage ?

right now i have assault - 4 ( minus 4 )
total - 4 ( minus 4 )

and when do i have 3 dice, and when do i have 2 dice ? and when do i have 1 dice
i have to start studying and understanding this, otherwise i will carry on entertaining u with my conspiracy posts


Not having a go but don't you think you should have discovered this very basic information first before accusing your fellow players of cheating?
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby betiko on Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:34 am

xeno wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:
xeno wrote:I do. And if you don't like the dice so much throw that premium my way ill be a higher rank than you in less than a day


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( you can afford 25 dollars a year u cheap bug)

I think if I had a job and saw that membership was going to stabilize I might put 25 down for premium but the last time I bought premium it was five bucks cheaper and there were more people here and I still thought lack was ripping us off


how much do you spend on weed per year?
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby xeno on Sat Feb 09, 2013 2:40 am

betiko wrote:
xeno wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:
xeno wrote:I do. And if you don't like the dice so much throw that premium my way ill be a higher rank than you in less than a day


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I think if I had a job and saw that membership was going to stabilize I might put 25 down for premium but the last time I bought premium it was five bucks cheaper and there were more people here and I still thought lack was ripping us off


how much do you spend on weed per year?

That's a subject for a different thread my man :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby Kaskavel on Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:29 am

AslanTheKing wrote:
spiesr wrote:The six different types of possible assaults (based on dice) are:
3 vs 2
3 vs 1
2 vs 2
2 vs 1
1 vs 2
1 vs 1
These are the number of dice rolled, not the number of troops involved. (IE 2 vs 2 is when both the attacker and defender roll 2 dice.) The results are kept on a per roll basis, and do not reflect overall battle result.


so lets say i did sign up today and have played no game yet,
in my first game and attack , i would have dice ( n ot troops ) 3 vs 2 ( where 3 is the attacker ? and 2 the defender ? )

and my 3 dice have 6 6 1, and my opponent with his 2 dice has 6 6

what would my battle outcome look like in percentage ?

right now i have assault - 4 ( minus 4 )
total - 4 ( minus 4 )

and when do i have 3 dice, and when do i have 2 dice ? and when do i have 1 dice
i have to start studying and understanding this, otherwise i will carry on entertaining u with my conspiracy posts


They are two different things, the dice outcome and the battle outcome. In the case above (6,6,1 vs 6,6), your luck would be about +20% (6,6,1 is a good roll) vs +70% (6,6 is an even better roll). The numbers may be different, I am not sure how exactly the luck is determined, but the result is the same. You both get good luck, his luck better than yours, since you also drooped a 1. In battle outcomes, the programm compares the result of the battle cersus the expected result. The expected result is something like 1,1-0,9 for you (meaning that in 20 such battles you should win 11 and lose 9) and it ended 0-2, so it will offer a battle outcome luck of +220% for your opponent and the same or something similar for you, but minus.
So, those are 2 different things. You may have bad dice, but opponent even worse, or you may have good dice, but opponent even better. In my opinion, dice luck means nothing, except from the satisfaction to check if you roll all 6 outcomes at the same rate. Battle outcomes represent a game's total luck better, because at the very end, you care if you won the battle or not. Losing 6 vs 6 or 1 vs 6 makes no difference to the game. If you win many battles with 3 vs 2 or 4 vs 3, your dice luck will be worse compared to losing many battles with 6 vs 6 and 5 vs 5, but the second senario will offer you the game. A small problem here, is that it is not easy to check the individual luck per game, compared to opponent. I will go make that suggestion (a luck bar per game, showing who had the better battle outcomes per game) again in the suggestion forum at some point.
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby Kaskavel on Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:34 am

And perhaps, I was not clear enough. Luck 0% in battle outcomes 3 dice vs 2 dice +0% does not mean you won 10 battles and lost 10. It means you won 11 and lost 9. The program compares the battle outcomes with expected ones
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby Kaskavel on Sat Feb 09, 2013 5:37 am

And do not ask me why roll dices have an average of 3.51, instead of 3.50 for all CC players. Only Chuck Norris knows why this happens, who, by the way, has an average luck of 6,01
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby Just_essence on Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:13 am

Well, remember, a finite set need not have the properties of an infinite set. In this case, the finite set of rolls that one gets does not have to resemble anything of the infinite set of random dice rolls. The Law of Large Numbers says that the experimental probability will approach the theoretical probability as the set grows larger, but it need not actually equal it.
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby betiko on Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:19 pm

xeno wrote:
betiko wrote:
xeno wrote:
AslanTheKing wrote:
xeno wrote:I do. And if you don't like the dice so much throw that premium my way ill be a higher rank than you in less than a day


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I think if I had a job and saw that membership was going to stabilize I might put 25 down for premium but the last time I bought premium it was five bucks cheaper and there were more people here and I still thought lack was ripping us off


how much do you spend on weed per year?

That's a subject for a different thread my man :mrgreen: :mrgreen:


kind of sounds like spending 25$ per year instead of 20$ will make you live under a bridge with all those expenses in crack money. Sorry to hear life is so difficult for you.
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby AslanTheKing on Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:15 pm

sorry to hear your life is hard xenon,
but let me tell u one thing, 25 dollars are not going to make your life harder or easier,
i just hope that its not that worse as u say,
dont give up, life is a long journey, ( and if u really smoke weed, ore any other shit)

u better stop doing that ( until u can afford 25 dollars a year)

but we changed the subject,

clearly nobody has admitted that they cheat,
and i dont know if there are programms out there ,
since my laptops hard disk crashed ( and me wasting lot of time to recover data - didnt work so i destroyed it )
i changed from windows and play now with a macbook,

in windows i had this gadgets installed but didn't know much how to use em, had just started installing it

but i do also ralise that my dice are not that bad,
but all this mathematic and percentages made my head spin, i m not the best in math ( at least not in that field )

so if u assure me, that nobody can hack, cheat on this site
and its just this randomness, than i hope that this randomness starts to behave more logical or lets say more acceptable

but some post their horror experience with the dice, and i am not the only one,

i dont know what changed, but this crazy streak was going on for too long,

of course i benefited from someone else's bad dice luck too, i had that one forgotten


2012-08-06 18:36:00 - ViperOverLord: That's f'ing bs
2012-08-07 00:28:02 - AslanTheKing: what happened?
2012-08-07 00:32:27 - ViperOverLord: what do you mean?
2012-08-07 00:32:35 - ViperOverLord: I had a 7 and you hit it with a 3
2012-08-07 00:33:34 - ViperOverLord: Do you really have to ask?
2012-08-07 00:33:41 - ViperOverLord: And then I just lost a 5 on 1
2012-08-07 00:33:45 - ViperOverLord: 3 times
2012-08-07 00:34:01 - ViperOverLord: That broke bonus too
2012-08-07 00:34:24 - ViperOverLord: That's a 1.1 percent play right ther
2012-08-07 00:46:24 - AslanTheKing: this dice are crazy, i never understood them anyway
2012-08-07 00:55:36 - ViperOverLord: well it took the game and gave it to you
2012-08-07 01:17:24 - AslanTheKing: i can't believe it, I'm lucky again, i can win more in a casino


for this crazy luck ( thats how i won the game )
i even received a tournament medal, my only one
strange?
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby betiko on Sun Feb 10, 2013 8:25 pm

dude do you really attack 3vs7?? :roll: then the guy misses twice 5vs1 and you dare bitch about dice that way?
all these 3 things happening in the same game is x-files!

otherwise, people can enter maximum security government networks ect, I don't think hacking cc dice would be absolutely impossible. but if someone does that, I guess you could see it on his dice stats, everyone has 3.51 average. If you find someone with 4 average or so, I would be willing to think he's a cheat.
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby Just_essence on Sun Feb 10, 2013 9:15 pm

It's been proven to be possible; one person has a script for it.
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby koontz1973 on Mon Feb 11, 2013 6:55 am

Just_essence wrote:It's been proven to be possible; one person has a script for it.

Its a myth. No one has a script. 8-[
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby betiko on Mon Feb 11, 2013 7:12 am

koontz1973 wrote:
Just_essence wrote:It's been proven to be possible; one person has a script for it.

Its a myth. No one has a script. 8-[


if it was the case you would probably be the last to know just_essence. Seems like you just have trouble making the difference between irony and statements.
and as I said, instead of talking paranoid bullshit, if any conspiracy theorist could show me the profile of someone with suspicious overall average dice and/or battle outcome %...
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Feb 11, 2013 11:20 am

ManBungalow wrote:We should compile the most prolific "the dice are rigged" posters in GD and put them in one game. That way, when one of them has bad dice, another has good dice, even if only in defending.


They will all roll 1s all game.
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby chapcrap on Tue Feb 12, 2013 4:15 pm

I have a dice script. That's the only way I know how to win. I would be a cook if I didn't have the script.
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Re: How many at CC Cheat ?

Postby swimmerdude99 on Wed Feb 13, 2013 12:13 am

Yeah and I got mine from Chap when we started playing doubles so we could win. As it turns out that is the only way to get above 2000 points! who knew!?! Its not even a tish about skill! And now I feel so much cooler :)
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