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Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:05 am

So I've been looking around the waiting games lately and this is no new concept but I'm getting a stronger and stronger impression that the settings on the games available is the reason why CC is shrinking in numbers.
Freestyle and Fog Trench make up the better part of the first games you see when looking to join a game.
More seasoned players may like these settings due to boredom or "point gathering" but new players(or lack thereof) who it has been more or less established are affecting membership numbers, don't have a lot of interest in playing cryptic games.
This site is becoming a place that is most comfortable to those players in their "golden years" CC wise. This sounds nice on paper but even those people who are satisfied with the current state of affairs will leave eventually, that's just normal. That being said and with the fact that new players are probably being discouraged by the foreign settings, CC is getting staler and staler by the day, not unlike the piece of bread that fell between the counter top and the refrigerator.
So, since many people seem to notice that games are taking longer to fill up than they used to, stop creating all these point hoarding games. It's probably not CC's responsibility to solve this problem since all these games are going against the grain so to speak for the sake of shaving points.
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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby betiko on Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:20 am

don't you have better things to do? you keep opening threads about the same thing over and over.
can you provide with numbers regarding cc population shrinking, or testimonies about people leaving the site because they get in games with settings they don't like?
also, if the most games you see on the game finder are with wierd settings it's because they are the oldest ones not being joined yet, because people don't fall in the trap.
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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby gordon1975 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:12 am

its a good point,if i joined this site today and hit join a game,on the first page my choices would be ,das schloss,lunar wars,All Your Base Are Belong To Us,Clandemonium,jamaica,cricket,city mogul,fudal epic and age of realms 1 and 3.Anyone thats new to this would have a shot,be thrown completely in to the lions den,get slaughtered,would think this site is way over there heads and leave ,should be the classic map on the front page at all times,for a much more enjoyable first experience and welcome
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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby betiko on Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:20 am

gordon1975 wrote:its a good point,if i joined this site today and hit join a game,on the first page my choices would be ,das schloss,lunar wars,All Your Base Are Belong To Us,Clandemonium,jamaica,cricket,city mogul,fudal epic and age of realms 1 and 3.Anyone thats new to this would have a shot,be thrown completely in to the lions den,get slaughtered,would think this site is way over there heads and leave ,should be the classic map on the front page at all times,for a much more enjoyable first experience and welcome


this is why those games are not open to new recruits, they are not allowed to join them.
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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby gordon1975 on Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:32 pm

betiko wrote:
gordon1975 wrote:its a good point,if i joined this site today and hit join a game,on the first page my choices would be ,das schloss,lunar wars,All Your Base Are Belong To Us,Clandemonium,jamaica,cricket,city mogul,fudal epic and age of realms 1 and 3.Anyone thats new to this would have a shot,be thrown completely in to the lions den,get slaughtered,would think this site is way over there heads and leave ,should be the classic map on the front page at all times,for a much more enjoyable first experience and welcome


this is why those games are not open to new recruits, they are not allowed to join them.



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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:36 pm

Yeah, you aren't able to join until you've played 10 games or whatever it is but after that, all this applies. So the point is valid but not a discussion ender.
The reason I keep bringing up this point is that it's getting worse. I've also not started a thread specifically about this particular aspect which I feel is the main reason people don't want to stay here. If you look back a couple of years when the site was apparently much healthier numbers-wise, what are the glaring differences? The difference is an increase in games created on exclusive settings and on exclusive maps. Excluding newer players is bad for business.
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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby AslanTheKing on Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:38 pm

i dont think its the settings ( dont know if CC is declining- maybe, dont have the facts)

i remember i did join as freemium already a long time ago,
my name i cant remember
but stopped playing on the first day since i wanted to play right away and not waiting 24 hours

then i gave it a shot again, and since 2011 i am very active

its hard to say, maybe a feedback system from new players would be a good invention,

that way u get what u need to know
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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby Funkyterrance on Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:47 pm

AslanTheKing wrote:its hard to say, maybe a feedback system from new players would be a good invention...

Probably a good idea. Hard to ask people once they've left though. If it were shown that new people are not repelled by exclusive settings I would be fine not talking about any of this.
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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby greenoaks on Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:18 am

speed games for freemiums is attempting to rectify the alleged problems faced by NR's
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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby xeno on Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:01 am

Sorry funky but this doesn't make sense. More preferences should equal broader appeal
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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby greenoaks on Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:28 am

xeno wrote:Sorry funky but this doesn't make sense. More preferences should equal broader appeal

less settings bunches us up on a few games. they fill quickly, the site feels vibrant.

more settings spreads us thin, games fill slower, the same people are played over and over, that repetative interaction bores people - they leave.
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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby xeno on Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:35 am

greenoaks wrote:
xeno wrote:Sorry funky but this doesn't make sense. More preferences should equal broader appeal

less settings bunches us up on a few games. they fill quickly, the site feels vibrant.

more settings spreads us thin, games fill slower, the same people are played over and over, that repetative interaction bores people - they leave.

I guess I can understand that. I most play escalating unlimited games so scaling back on the settings wouldn't affect me much anyway
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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby rdsrds2120 on Fri Feb 22, 2013 1:51 pm

We're actually working on a long-term plan to make the site easier for New Recruits without fully taking maps/settings away.

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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:43 pm

rdsrds2120 wrote:We're actually working on a long-term plan to make the site easier for New Recruits without fully taking maps/settings away.

BMO


Oh. I'll knock it off then and be patient if that's the case. I'm not trying to be intentionally disruptive, contrary to popular belief. ;)
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Re: Are Settings Ultimately Killing CC?

Postby CreepersWiener on Fri Feb 22, 2013 5:44 pm

xeno wrote:Sorry funky but this doesn't make sense. More preferences should equal broader appeal


I would disagree. I think the Funk has hit on something. People that like to play Risk hear about this site. And when they come in, they look at the Join A Game or Start A Game and there are so many unfamiliar maps and gaming choices.

I remember when I first started, I would go to Join Game and the majority of the games were the Classic map...that was appealing to me, I was familiar with it...now when I look at Join Game, I am bombarded by a thousand games of Quad teams playing Das Schloss with Trench Fog.

Maybe we need a suggestion to be made? A "wading pool" for newbies?
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