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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby thegreekdog on Wed Apr 03, 2013 7:32 am

Night Strike wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:I went and re-read the caption on the map and I'll admit the wording is a little heavy handed. You could probably just tweak it a little and everyone would be happy as it does read as slightly "charged" as it stands.


Which part is "charged" or "heavy-handed"?

Well particularly the "According to God's prophecy" and "tear them apart and leave a valley of bones" bits could probably be toned down. It just sounds a bit extreme and the same energy could be conveyed without sounding so "challenging", if you know what I mean?
I personally don't have a problem with it but I could see how someone might be a little offended by the wording.


The "According to God's prophecy" part would be relevant to a map discussing uniting the tribes of Israel and Judah considering God is their god, so I don't see how there would be issues with that (aside from the people who don't believe God exists, but that question is irrelevant to this map). As for the other part....sure it's strong language, but we know there are people in this world who want to do much more than that to the modern day version of the united Israel, so it seems relevant to me.

Of course, I'm also a person who thinks banning swastikas on maps of World War II Germany is dumb, and the quote on this map doesn't even come close to as contentious as swastikas.


Just you know, throwing this out there - It's a fucking map on a fucking Risk website.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Commander62890 on Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:25 am

Funkyterrance wrote:I went and re-read the caption on the map and I'll admit the wording is a little heavy handed. You could probably just tweak it a little and everyone would be happy as it does read as slightly "charged" as it stands.

I agree with this, but I don't think anyone cares about it enough to actually go to the foundry and suggest it.

And by the way, Sym made it perfectly clear that he has no intention of going there, and rightfully so. He doesn't play the game, so why care about changing a map? He just wanted to discuss the implications of what he thought was a controversial wording. It's not his fault this was brought over to GD - if this was left in OT, it would all be good. At the same time, I'm not blaming whomever brought it over from OT; he was just doing his job. Maybe there should be more leniency in the enforcement of those rules... like taking into account who the OP is and what his intentions are.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Symmetry on Wed Apr 03, 2013 9:58 am

Commander62890 wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:I went and re-read the caption on the map and I'll admit the wording is a little heavy handed. You could probably just tweak it a little and everyone would be happy as it does read as slightly "charged" as it stands.

I agree with this, but I don't think anyone cares about it enough to actually go to the foundry and suggest it.

And by the way, Sym made it perfectly clear that he has no intention of going there, and rightfully so. He doesn't play the game, so why care about changing a map? He just wanted to discuss the implications of what he thought was a controversial wording. It's not his fault this was brought over to GD - if this was left in OT, it would all be good. At the same time, I'm not blaming whomever brought it over from OT; he was just doing his job. Maybe there should be more leniency in the enforcement of those rules... like taking into account who the OP is and what his intentions are.


Aye, like I said, I would have preferred it remain where I posted it. Shigata ga nai.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Funkyterrance on Wed Apr 03, 2013 12:57 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Just you know, throwing this out there - It's a fucking map on a fucking Risk website.

Yeah that notion has aleady been covered by Tkr4lf.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Symmetry on Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:17 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Just you know, throwing this out there - It's a fucking map on a fucking Risk website.

Yeah that notion has aleady been covered by Tkr4lf.


Indeed, the poll is odd though. Possibly a result of the move. I don't think even the foundry peeps would have gone for the option without change quite so vehemently.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Night Strike on Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:37 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
The "According to God's prophecy" part would be relevant to a map discussing uniting the tribes of Israel and Judah considering God is their god, so I don't see how there would be issues with that (aside from the people who don't believe God exists, but that question is irrelevant to this map). As for the other part....sure it's strong language, but we know there are people in this world who want to do much more than that to the modern day version of the united Israel, so it seems relevant to me.

Of course, I'm also a person who thinks banning swastikas on maps of World War II Germany is dumb, and the quote on this map doesn't even come close to as contentious as swastikas.

Ok NS, I'll put it in a different light. How would you react to a map based on the crucifixion?
This map is borderline sacrilegious and I think that's what's not sitting right with me.


I probably wouldn't have any issue with a crucifixion map either. If maps are based on historical events or places, I want them to be as accurate as possible. Whether they're controversial or not is irrelevant to me as long as they're accurate. Sometimes people can learn most from topics they believe are controversial.

Symmetry wrote:Indeed, the poll is odd though. Possibly a result of the move. I don't think even the foundry peeps would have gone for the option without change quite so vehemently.


Because the question of your poll does not match the premise of your thread. If we're only voting on changing the map based on your premise, then I disagree with you and would have voted Yes (I have not voted and won't). If we're talking about the actual map itself, I DO think it needs some changes.....but those changes have nothing to do with your thread. So why would I lend credence to your false premise by voting in your thread saying that some changes are necessary?
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Symmetry on Wed Apr 03, 2013 1:43 pm

Night Strike wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
The "According to God's prophecy" part would be relevant to a map discussing uniting the tribes of Israel and Judah considering God is their god, so I don't see how there would be issues with that (aside from the people who don't believe God exists, but that question is irrelevant to this map). As for the other part....sure it's strong language, but we know there are people in this world who want to do much more than that to the modern day version of the united Israel, so it seems relevant to me.

Of course, I'm also a person who thinks banning swastikas on maps of World War II Germany is dumb, and the quote on this map doesn't even come close to as contentious as swastikas.

Ok NS, I'll put it in a different light. How would you react to a map based on the crucifixion?
This map is borderline sacrilegious and I think that's what's not sitting right with me.


I probably wouldn't have any issue with a crucifixion map either. If maps are based on historical events or places, I want them to be as accurate as possible. Whether they're controversial or not is irrelevant to me as long as they're accurate. Sometimes people can learn most from topics they believe are controversial.

Symmetry wrote:Indeed, the poll is odd though. Possibly a result of the move. I don't think even the foundry peeps would have gone for the option without change quite so vehemently.


Because the question of your poll does not match the premise of your thread. If we're only voting on changing the map based on your premise, then I disagree with you and would have voted Yes (I have not voted and won't). If we're talking about the actual map itself, I DO think it needs some changes.....but those changes have nothing to do with your thread. So why would I lend credence to your false premise by voting in your thread saying that some changes are necessary?


You can always vote kittens.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:47 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:
TeeGee wrote:Any recommendations to change a map MUST go through its thread in the foundry.

Told him that on pages 1 & 2 but a bad dog never knows when to quit chewing. He obviously does not care about the map as he has not posted there yet. All Symmetry is is full of troll hair.


Fixed.


Weren't you banned for trolling me?
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Apr 04, 2013 7:54 am

Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:
TeeGee wrote:Any recommendations to change a map MUST go through its thread in the foundry.

Told him that on pages 1 & 2 but a bad dog never knows when to quit chewing. He obviously does not care about the map as he has not posted there yet. All Symmetry is is full of troll hair.


Fixed.


Weren't you banned for trolling me?


Sym, there's no need for you to troll the denizens of CC.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:07 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:
TeeGee wrote:Any recommendations to change a map MUST go through its thread in the foundry.

Told him that on pages 1 & 2 but a bad dog never knows when to quit chewing. He obviously does not care about the map as he has not posted there yet. All Symmetry is is full of troll hair.


Fixed.


Weren't you banned for trolling me?


Sym, there's no need for you to troll the denizens of CC.


So yeah- you were banned for trolling me. In a way that gave other people nightmares.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:00 am

Funkyterrance wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Just you know, throwing this out there - It's a fucking map on a fucking Risk website.

Yeah that notion has aleady been covered by Tkr4lf.


My comment was specific to Night Strike's post.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:13 am

thegreekdog wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
thegreekdog wrote:
Just you know, throwing this out there - It's a fucking map on a fucking Risk website.

Yeah that notion has aleady been covered by Tkr4lf.


My comment was specific to Night Strike's post.


I doubt that that mod will reply.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:14 am

Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:
TeeGee wrote:Any recommendations to change a map MUST go through its thread in the foundry.

Told him that on pages 1 & 2 but a bad dog never knows when to quit chewing. He obviously does not care about the map as he has not posted there yet. All Symmetry is is full of troll hair.


Fixed.


Weren't you banned for trolling me?


Sym, there's no need for you to troll the denizens of CC.


So yeah- you were banned for trolling me. In a way that gave other people nightmares.


Apparently, it hasn't stopped you from trolling, but you're time will come.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:17 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:[

Apparently, it hasn't stopped you from trolling, but you're time will come.


"Your", moron.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby AndyDufresne on Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:24 am

Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:[

Apparently, it hasn't stopped you from trolling, but you're time will come.


"Your", moron.


You are (Giovanni Battista) Moroni

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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:33 am

Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:[

Apparently, it hasn't stopped you from trolling, but you're time will come.


"Your", moron.


Apparently, you partake in flaming as well. Don't you deserve punishment?
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:39 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:[

Apparently, it hasn't stopped you from trolling, but you're time will come.


"Your", moron.


Apparently, you partake in flaming as well. Don't you deserve punishment?


As Andy indicated, it was an oblique reference to your nobility.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby BigBallinStalin on Thu Apr 04, 2013 9:49 am

Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:[

Apparently, it hasn't stopped you from trolling, but you're time will come.


"Your", moron.


Apparently, you partake in flaming as well. Don't you deserve punishment?


As Andy indicated, it was an oblique reference to your nobility.


Ah, the ambiguities of trolling are as gray as the shade under the leaves of Troll Forest, which (conveniently) obscures clear judgment from the heavens. "Don't know if trolling or just..." The ultimate question of the Internets!

Anyway, there's still no need for you to flame or troll the good people of CC. To remain respectable, you should at least apologize to everyone.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:54 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
BigBallinStalin wrote:[

Apparently, it hasn't stopped you from trolling, but you're time will come.


"Your", moron.


Apparently, you partake in flaming as well. Don't you deserve punishment?


As Andy indicated, it was an oblique reference to your nobility.


Ah, the ambiguities of trolling are as gray as the shade under the leaves of Troll Forest, which (conveniently) obscures clear judgment from the heavens. "Don't know if trolling or just..." The ultimate question of the Internets!

Anyway, there's still no need for you to flame or troll the good people of CC. To remain respectable, you should at least apologize to everyone.


for what?
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby jsnyder748 on Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:50 pm

change the poll back! lol
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Symmetry on Thu Apr 04, 2013 5:56 pm

jsnyder748 wrote:change the poll back! lol


i'd like the thread back where it was originally

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Postby 2dimes on Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:20 pm

Looks like the score is 1 nothing.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Doc_Brown on Thu Apr 04, 2013 8:15 pm

jsnyder748 wrote:change the poll back! lol


I would suggest that Symmetry's change to the polling question indicates his real intentions: It's not about addressing a serious concern about the site. It's about trolling, pure and simple. In fact, I think he's stooped to pimpdave's level with this one.
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby Night Strike on Fri Apr 05, 2013 2:30 am

So he rearranges the options without the votes resetting just to make his preferred answer be the one that's winning?


Wow, what a troll!
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Re: Latest crazy map from the foundry

Postby macbone on Fri Apr 05, 2013 4:50 am

Symmetry, dude, I respect you, and I've always found you to be well-reasoned, but what's up with changing the questions?
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