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Re: Yes, another one about dice

Postby Gabba hey on Fri May 31, 2013 12:44 pm

They are just flat out bad.
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Re: Yes, another one about dice

Postby TeeGee on Fri May 31, 2013 11:17 pm

Funny how I see many more high rankers complaining about a random object than I see cooks.

By the way, my dice suck too, yet I still manage to win some games.

I propose a new dice system.. attacking dice range from 4-6 and defending dice 1-3 always, forever. :lol:
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Re: Yes, another one about dice

Postby HighlanderAttack on Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:59 am

TeeGee wrote:Funny how I see many more high rankers complaining about a random object than I see cooks.

By the way, my dice suck too, yet I still manage to win some games.

I propose a new dice system.. attacking dice range from 4-6 and defending dice 1-3 always, forever. :lol:



Low ranks are too stupid to understand.

and stupid players are rewarded like the dumb ass who tried a 4v3, 3v2, 2v1 and was rewarded by perfect dice against me today. Super poor strategy rewarded by CC. I took two months off to see if I still wanted to play this game and now over a month or so have figured out I do not.
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Re: Yes, another one about dice

Postby Gabba hey on Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:40 pm

yup, just lost a 68 vs 32 for game again. 3rd in 2 days. Keep playing, yeah that's the answer.
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Re: Yes, another one about dice

Postby Armandolas on Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:53 pm

Ive noticed that pattern about, you getting a very probable win with good dice, than dice starts to balance with crappy dice for you in the last rounds , so you get a feeling in stats that dice is equal.
Ive seen it both ways and that is not nice.
But honestly, last couple of months i tried and managed to stop being very angry about bad dice. It is just not worth to be mad. I believe now i play 100% for fun and more relaxed.
Still i allways think that i loose because of bad dice and when i win is because of my superb skills :D
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Re: Yes, another one about dice

Postby HighlanderAttack on Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:57 pm

Armandolas wrote:Ive noticed that pattern about, you getting a very probable possibly win with good dice, than dice is balanced with crappy dice for you in the last rounds , so you get a feeling in stats that dice is equal.
Ive seen it both ways and that is not nice.
But honestly, last couple of months i tried and managed to stop being very angry about bad dice. It is just not worth to be mad. I believe now i play 100% for fun and more relaxed.
Still i allways think that i loose because of bad dice and when i win is because of my superb skills :D



I do not disagree with this at all. There are good and bad dice for each individual. The thing is there is too many insane dice which do not make sense--both ways of course. It takes all the fun out of the game when realistic expectations continue to get destroyed by insanity.
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Re: Yes, another one about dice

Postby Chariot of Fire on Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:28 pm

I think a lot of it has to do with a good player not relying on, say, a 6v10 to win a card. Yet every now and then some clown will try the improbable such as that and get away with it and you're left thinking "Well that's just bloody ridiculous".
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Re: Yes, another one about dice

Postby Gilligan on Sat Jun 01, 2013 8:51 pm

IanG7 wrote:I played a version (Risk II for PC) where you're dice changed colour based on how many troops were in your army

for example

white dice for troops 1-5 (white dice prone to rolling more 1s)
yellow
orange
red
all the way up to black dice if your region had 30 or more troops (these had a much greater probability of rolling 6s)

Maybe CC could implement games where the dice worked like this, I know i'd like it?


I sure hope this wouldn't be the default. Maybe an extra dice setting,
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Re: Yes, another one about dice

Postby Jingu on Sat Jun 01, 2013 9:42 pm

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Armandolas wrote:Ive noticed that pattern about, you getting a very probable possibly win with good dice, than dice is balanced with crappy dice for you in the last rounds , so you get a feeling in stats that dice is equal.
Ive seen it both ways and that is not nice.
But honestly, last couple of months i tried and managed to stop being very angry about bad dice. It is just not worth to be mad. I believe now i play 100% for fun and more relaxed.
Still i allways think that i loose because of bad dice and when i win is because of my superb skills :D



I do not disagree with this at all. There are good and bad dice for each individual. The thing is there is too many insane dice which do not make sense--both ways of course. It takes all the fun out of the game when realistic expectations continue to get destroyed by insanity.


I completely agree. I am so sick of seeing the improbable become the thing to expect. Today alone I lost 19v3 and 18v2 in back to back games
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Re: Yes, another one about dice

Postby Lindax on Sat Jun 01, 2013 11:12 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:I think a lot of it has to do with a good player not relying on, say, a 6v10 to win a card. Yet every now and then some clown will try the improbable such as that and get away with it and you're left thinking "Well that's just bloody ridiculous".


That was one of the points I was trying to make. Thanks for putting it in writing more clearly. :D

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Re: Yes, another one about dice

Postby Master Fenrir on Sun Jun 02, 2013 3:24 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:I think a lot of it has to do with a good player not relying on, say, a 6v10 to win a card. Yet every now and then some clown will try the improbable such as that and get away with it and you're left thinking "Well that's just bloody ridiculous".


Last week I had a dubs game with Cat where a guy broke her bonus 5 vs. 2, 1, 3 with perfect dice, including the 3 vs. 3 at the end. I wanted to do him bodily harm for even attempting it.
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Re: Yes, another one about dice

Postby Funkyterrance on Sun Jun 02, 2013 9:15 pm

@ everyone who is enraged when the dice are ridiculous, I think the higher rank you get the more gutting the insane dice are since you work so hard crunching the odds in order to be successful. Thing is, there is only so much you can calculate and plan before your ass is so tight your neighbors dog howls when you pass gas.
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