Terminator Experiment Results
Posted: Mon Aug 20, 2007 8:07 am2 weeks ago i asked people with scores of around 1500 to join me in an experiment. the participants were willis gilligan treefiddy and john1099. no details were made public at that point and only me and the above people knew about it. but i think time has come now to present what the experiment is about and what are the results.
initially i wanted to make a double experiment for standard freestyle 1v1 games and for terminator sequential 1v1 games but because of lack of interest on the freestyle part and because i wasn't able to play as much as i wanted (only 12 games) i abandoned the freestyle part and stuck only to terminator games.
what was the idea?
simple. start terminator sequential 1v1 games on fairly large maps and deadbeat in all the games where you have a chance of loosing. this way because of the nature of terminator games you will not lose any points. in theory this way you can gain many many points without losing any.
why?
simply because i believe it is wrong that we have such a flaw in the system and i think it should be corrected at once.
besides the point of hopefully changing the rules i also wanted to see some other statistics like times a player went first or had a bonus from the start.
so here are the results.
total games played: 193
red went first: 98
red went first%: 50.78%
green went first: 95
green went first%: 49.22%
red had bonus: 9
red had bonus%: 4.66%
green had bonus: 13
green had bonus%: 6.74%
deadbeat: 56
deadbeat%: 29.02%
wins: 104
win% w/ deadbeat: 53.89%
win% w/o deadbeat: 75.91%
losses: 31
negative feedbacks: 11
positive feedbacks: 1
points gained: 1755
points lost: 570
points profit.: 1185
the results aren't quite final as some games are still going but i think the number is enough to form an opinion.
as you can see the winning percentage without counting the deadbeating games is at 75.91%. this should have been at 100% but the fact that none of us have done this before and the fact that at first we simply weren't used to deadbeating lead to such a number. but if a person was set to really abuse the system he could easily get 100% wins not counting the deadbeating games.
the total point profit is at almost 1200 points without counting the remaining games. i have a profit of just 90 points but other people have had as high as 300+ profits.
i sincerely apologize to all the people that had to suffer because of our deadbeating. we know we waisted your time and made you mad and we agree we deserved our negative feedbacks and threatening pms (yes indeed some people used the pm to threaten us)
i for one am willing to offer a rematch to any person that felt disadvantaged by this experiment.
anyway i hope that the right person will read this *cough* Lackattack *cough* and perhaps do something for terminator games to avoid this gross abuse to ever happen.
initially i wanted to make a double experiment for standard freestyle 1v1 games and for terminator sequential 1v1 games but because of lack of interest on the freestyle part and because i wasn't able to play as much as i wanted (only 12 games) i abandoned the freestyle part and stuck only to terminator games.
what was the idea?
simple. start terminator sequential 1v1 games on fairly large maps and deadbeat in all the games where you have a chance of loosing. this way because of the nature of terminator games you will not lose any points. in theory this way you can gain many many points without losing any.
why?
simply because i believe it is wrong that we have such a flaw in the system and i think it should be corrected at once.
besides the point of hopefully changing the rules i also wanted to see some other statistics like times a player went first or had a bonus from the start.
so here are the results.
total games played: 193
red went first: 98
red went first%: 50.78%
green went first: 95
green went first%: 49.22%
red had bonus: 9
red had bonus%: 4.66%
green had bonus: 13
green had bonus%: 6.74%
deadbeat: 56
deadbeat%: 29.02%
wins: 104
win% w/ deadbeat: 53.89%
win% w/o deadbeat: 75.91%
losses: 31
negative feedbacks: 11
positive feedbacks: 1
points gained: 1755
points lost: 570
points profit.: 1185
the results aren't quite final as some games are still going but i think the number is enough to form an opinion.
as you can see the winning percentage without counting the deadbeating games is at 75.91%. this should have been at 100% but the fact that none of us have done this before and the fact that at first we simply weren't used to deadbeating lead to such a number. but if a person was set to really abuse the system he could easily get 100% wins not counting the deadbeating games.
the total point profit is at almost 1200 points without counting the remaining games. i have a profit of just 90 points but other people have had as high as 300+ profits.
i sincerely apologize to all the people that had to suffer because of our deadbeating. we know we waisted your time and made you mad and we agree we deserved our negative feedbacks and threatening pms (yes indeed some people used the pm to threaten us)
i for one am willing to offer a rematch to any person that felt disadvantaged by this experiment.
anyway i hope that the right person will read this *cough* Lackattack *cough* and perhaps do something for terminator games to avoid this gross abuse to ever happen.
, I'm sure lackattack will see this. I think they should set up a new rule that when a player deadbeats a certain amount of games, they will receive temporary ban as a punishment.
. Anyway, I got 2 negatives, from about the 20 around games deadbeated in, and no positives. I found that people in games where I was going to deadbeat (It was fairly obvious I was going to) they didn't really try to take enough bonuses to try to take me out before I missed 3 turns. That happened quite often.