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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby KLOBBER on Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:15 am

Blitzaholic wrote:
KLOBBER wrote:Gentle Friends,

There is another thread in GD that is in the process of listing the top ten CC members in regards to simple number of unique opponents defeated.

This is a fine thread, but it only tells half the story. Any unintelligent and unskilled player will develop a large number of unique defeated opponents, simply by playing a large number of games.

Similarly, some very skilled and intelligent players may not have played as many games yet, and so the bare number of unique opponents defeated holds absolutely no relevance to such a player's actual skill in the game. What if the most skilled player of all has only played a handful of games, for example? No -- merely counting the number of unique opponents says absolutely nothing about a member's actual skill level in the game.

I broke out my calculator and revised the list in the other thread to show each player's ACTUAL game skill statistics. This version tells the whole story, whereas the other thread only tells half the story.

Each member from the other list is ranked here according to Unique Opponents Defeated per Game Finished (uod/gf).

For clarity, because a certain individual on the other thread has displayed an unfortunate ignorance of simple mathematics, the relevant statistic "uod/gf" is presented here for each member on the list as both a raw number and a percentage. (50% = 0.50; 100% = 1.00; 200% = 2.00, etc).

In layman's terms, the final number means that the member listed (member GoVegan, for example) has defeated an average of 0.71 unique opponents per game finished. For member TheBro, for example, he has defeated 1.10 unique members per game completed.

Here is the UPDATED official list of ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics, as it stands at this moment:

1. KLOBBER ā€“ 2104 uod/1214 gf
173% (1.73) uod/gf

2. Blitzaholic ā€“ 6092 uod/4991 gf
122% (1.28) uod/gf

3. TheBro ā€“ 1654 uod/1498 gf
110% (1.10) uod/gf

4. JOHNNYROCKET24 ā€“ 8937/9917
90% (0.90) uod/gf

5. GoVegan ā€“ 1501 uod/2126 gf
71% (0.71) uod/gf

6. clapper011 ā€“ 5866 uod/9347 gf
63% (0.63) uod/gf

7. Paradice City 9 ā€“ 3907 uod/7507 gf
52% (0.52) uod/gf

8. Timminz ā€“ 1389 uod/2855 gf
49% (0.49) uod/gf

9. Jpliberty ā€“ 2135 uod/4451 gf
48% (0.48) uod/gf

10. hwhrhett ā€“ 1362 uod/3567 gf
38% (0.38) uod/gf

I'm delighted to see that I am by far the highest ranked member on the site (so far), as regards ACTUAL Skill Level, and I would like to thank my kind friends at the other thread for providing the statistics by which these facts have been calculated. I will keep this list updated according to any new entries on the other list.

I hope you all have a wonderful day!



wow, great work Klobber, I dont quite undertsand it all, but why am I only # 2 on the site?


Thanks for asking, friend! It's because your statistics warrant second place, between me and member TheBro.

I hope you have a wonderful day!
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby joecoolfrog on Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:31 am

Ah but Klobber I have already pointed out that your figures are fataly flawed, back to the drawing board im afraid :cry: :cry:
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Optimus Prime on Sun Aug 03, 2008 9:58 am

Keep the flaming out of here, folks. I've split away the last few posts of inappropriate material, let's not force the Bigbot to do that again, shall we? No reason to disturb him on a lovely Sunday morning. :)

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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Fruitcake on Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:26 am

Optimus Prime wrote:Keep the flaming out of here, folks. I've split away the last few posts of inappropriate material, let's not force the Bigbot to do that again, shall we? No reason to disturb him on a lovely Sunday morning. :)

Regards, Optimus Prime

Well I suppose if complete idiots were unable to post such drivel then he would not need disturbing, but far be it for some one such as I to pass comment.
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Pedronicus on Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:42 am

2. Pedronicus ā€“ 1004 uod/806 gf
124% (1.24) uod/gf

Yay! - I beat blitz in something!!!!
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Blitzaholic on Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:10 am

Pedronicus wrote:2. Pedronicus ā€“ 1004 uod/806 gf
124% (1.24) uod/gf

Yay! - I beat blitz in something!!!!



merciful heavens, the world is now slowly coming to an end :lol:


how you do that and get those stats pete?


anyways, super job m8 =D>
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Pedronicus on Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:46 am

Blitzaholic wrote:

how you do that and get those stats pete?


Well it's probably wrong - but i got my unique defeats from map rank, but there will be people that i killed in different dubs, trips etc.
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby White Moose on Sun Aug 03, 2008 3:41 pm

How does this show skill?

Answer: It doesn't.

Just becuase you win against a lot of diffrent people doesn't mean you are good at all. KLOBBER, you almost only have New Recruits in your games. Whom never join any of your games again. Thats why you got so high here. Not becuase you are good. Because, you really ARE NOT good KLOBBER. Sure, you are better than some New Recruits. But that doesn't mean shit.
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby muy_thaiguy on Sun Aug 03, 2008 6:29 pm

White Moose wrote:How does this show skill?

Answer: It doesn't.

Just becuase you win against a lot of diffrent people doesn't mean you are good at all. KLOBBER, you almost only have New Recruits in your games. Whom never join any of your games again. Thats why you got so high here. Not becuase you are good. Because, you really ARE NOT good KLOBBER. Sure, you are better than some New Recruits. But that doesn't mean shit.

I got foed without even playing him. :lol:
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby bbqpenguin on Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:11 pm

gentle klobber,
perhaps you should set some games with the other players on the list, so you can truly prove to everyone that you truly are the most 'skilled' player on the site. for surely, if you are the best, you will beat them all, right? truly, if you set up many games against them, you'll win the majority of the games, right? i bet they'd even agree to your favorite map setting (foggy cm, no less), so that we would settle this argument once and for all!. i look forward to seeing you challenge these arrogant, less talented players in callouts so that you can prove once and for all your superiority.




















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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby oVo on Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:21 pm

KLOBBER wrote:[...]
Any unintelligent and unskilled player will develop a large number of unique defeated opponents, simply by playing a large number of games.
[...]
I broke out my calculator and revised the list in the other thread to show each player's ACTUAL game skill statistics. This version tells the whole story, whereas the other thread only tells half the story.
[...]
I'm delighted to see that I am by far the highest ranked member on the site (so far), as regards ACTUAL Skill Level, and I would like to thank my kind friends at the other thread for providing the statistics by which these facts have been calculated. I will keep this list updated according to any new entries on the other list.

The problem with your calculations [klobber] is that what you lack in game skills you make up for by hooking the system for points. It's difficult to understand how anyone can honestly consider stacks of deadbeat recruits as actual unique opponents "skillfully defeated," much less boast about those numbers. Some day Lackattack might correct this oversight and make those hollow victories worth no points and if that correction is retroactive, you will be demoted to Cook until you actually decide to play more legitimate games with actual opponents.
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby lancehoch on Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:40 pm

I think KLOBBER will fall from the top of this list when the current Battle Royal game ends: Game 1000001 (Do not click the link with BOB activated).
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby hulmey on Sun Aug 03, 2008 7:49 pm

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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Simon Viavant on Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:36 pm

Really Klobber, starting a thread to say you're the most skilled player on CC is definetly trolling.
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby hulmey on Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:38 pm

Simon Viavant wrote:Really Klobber, starting a thread to say you're the most skilled player on CC is definetly trolling.

its about time someone from CC put some trouser's on and kicked this joker's arse of this site!!
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Simon Viavant on Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:45 pm

And unfoe me! I haven't even played you! I just joined a couple of your games, then you dropped them, and now I try to join one and I'm foed!
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Joodoo on Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:46 pm

but seriously how would you put yourself up on an "actual game skill stat list" when all you play are new recruits? KLOBBER, stop foeing ppl and play them if you wanna prove that you're good :roll:

Simon Viavant wrote:And unfoe me! I haven't even played you! I just joined a couple of your games, then you dropped them, and now I try to join one and I'm foed!


he foes almost anyone that isn't a new recruit :lol:
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby icedagger on Sun Aug 03, 2008 8:57 pm

Our dear kind gentle Klobber obviously gets a kick out of your reactions.. just let the thread die. Gently of course. Dear friends.
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Simon Viavant on Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:01 am

icedagger wrote:Our dear kind gentle Klobber obviously gets a kick out of your reactions

He can't see them. He's foed all of us.
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Blitzaholic on Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:38 pm

daydream wrote:actually, i think this statistic is uninteresting, since it only lists unique opponents, whereas the ones you beat twice arent included, therefore giving you a big advantage since you rarely play anyone twice.
if you wanted to use a statistic that includes all opponents beaten, you might as well use the kill ratio that map rank offers.



good point indeed, interesting, but klobber may not be in top 10 then?



mine may be higher now as well
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby ParadiceCity9 on Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:44 pm

I'm not 3991 for 7975...bumps me up to a rounded .53
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby KoE_Sirius on Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:03 pm

Congrats KLOBBER .You made a thread thats nearly positive .Whats all this about though .Where do you get these figures from .Tell a chimp day :)
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Begbie on Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:01 pm

11 12 15 2 2 5 18 = 6 21 3 11 23 9 20 where a=1,b=2.....................................
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Qwert on Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:22 pm

by Begbie on Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:01 pm

11 12 15 2 2 5 18 = 6 21 3 11 23 9 20 where a=1,b=2.....................................

Its these a right formula? :?
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Re: ACTUAL Game Skill Statistics

Postby Blitzaholic on Sat Aug 09, 2008 6:34 pm

qwert wrote:
by Begbie on Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:01 pm

11 12 15 2 2 5 18 = 6 21 3 11 23 9 20 where a=1,b=2.....................................

Its these a right formula? :?



I have no idea



ask sully800, he is the math wizard
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