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I want these feature(s) most:

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Initial army placement
181
19%
Attack details in game log
149
16%
Clickable maps (e.g. click the country to attack)
175
19%
Designated account sitters (so you don't need to give out your password)
109
12%
Fix the Freestyle double turn loophole
164
18%
More Battle Royales
157
17%
 
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby PLAYER57832 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:06 am

Since so many people have BOB, etc, I would like to see some of those features encorporated directly into CC. Right now, those who have the ability to use BOB get a distinct advantage in some games (particularly freestyle). Since the coding is there, I would guess integrating it should not be that difficult?

As a minimum, I would like to see how many territories people have, maybe down at the bottom, without having to page through the log and count.

It would be nice to get a list of those territories you have lost since your last turn, too... particularly in fog.

All of this information is available already, this would just mean those of us without the add-ons have it more readily (without counting).
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby Woodruff on Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:12 am

AndyDufresne wrote:
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Woodruff wrote:I know you didn't ask about these, but there are a lot of "seemingly easy fixes" from the to-do list that could be accomplished rather than one big thing?

I say that while recognizing that just because one of us may think it looks like an easy fix doesn't necessarily mean that it IS.

I know with time management, sometimes getting rid of a lot of little tasks is a better thing than knocking out one big task.

(Just a thought...)

I concur.

One example would be to average the individual ratings for each person, rather than having the new rating supercede all previous ratings that person has given (then the overal rating would be an overall average, exactly like now).


This would go a long way to fixing people's gripes on the ratings, without a huge hassle (I believe).


I think Lack is looking first for a bigger update than a couple of smaller ones---since over the last few months most of his updates have been small. It's a cycle. :)
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby kratos644 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:54 am

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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby Ugly_Moose on Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:30 pm

Something I would like to see is a penalty for deadbeats.

If you are kicked out of a game for missed turns then the points are doubled what you loose and the other players are rewarded for sitting through this with double points.

This should discourage missed turn drop outs.
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby notyou2 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 12:35 pm

How about a system that moderators are elected by a panel that is composed of fair and honest players that aren't exhibiting fundamentalist or extreme liberal views?
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby kratos644 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:30 pm

notyou2 wrote:How about a system that moderators are elected by a panel that is composed of fair and honest players that aren't exhibiting fundamentalist or extreme liberal views?

But who would decide who is
notyou2 wrote:fair and honest
or the
notyou2 wrote:players that aren't exhibiting fundamentalist or extreme liberal views?


Another panel to chose the panel ;)
Sorry but probably wouldn't work. There would be bias involved in picking the panel...
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby kratos644 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 1:31 pm

Ugly_Moose wrote:Something I would like to see is a penalty for deadbeats.

If you are kicked out of a game for missed turns then the points are doubled what you loose and the other players are rewarded for sitting through this with double points.

This should discourage missed turn drop outs.

I agree with this idea. On another site similar to this one(except much worse) players lose extra points if they deadbeat a game
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby CharruaWarrior on Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:20 pm

Initial army placement would drag the game. I've been on a site that literally took over 2 months to have all the armies placed.

The attack details is a great idea. When I first came on this site that was something I looked for.

I also looked for a log showing how many armies and territories each player had. This was also on another site I played and was very useful. If a player has 15 territories I would know I would have to conquer 4 territories from him so he gets the minimum amount of armies on his turn. It's easier than counting territories. Also by showing the total armies a player has you can easily see the strongest player to the weekest. 8-[
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby kratos644 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:27 pm

CharruaWarrior wrote:Initial army placement would drag the game. I've been on a site that literally took over 2 months to have all the armies placed.

The attack details is a great idea. When I first came on this site that was something I looked for.

I also looked for a log showing how many armies and territories each player had. This was also on another site I played and was very useful. If a player has 15 territories I would know I would have to conquer 4 territories from him so he gets the minimum amount of armies on his turn. It's easier than counting territories. Also by showing the total armies a player has you can easily see the strongest player to the weekest. 8-[

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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby Incandenza on Sun Aug 23, 2009 7:29 pm

kratos644 wrote:
CharruaWarrior wrote:Initial army placement would drag the game. I've been on a site that literally took over 2 months to have all the armies placed.

The attack details is a great idea. When I first came on this site that was something I looked for.

I also looked for a log showing how many armies and territories each player had. This was also on another site I played and was very useful. If a player has 15 territories I would know I would have to conquer 4 territories from him so he gets the minimum amount of armies on his turn. It's easier than counting territories. Also by showing the total armies a player has you can easily see the strongest player to the weekest. 8-[

BOB... ;)


Well, seems like many of BOB's features should've been folded into the site long ago.
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

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Incandenza wrote:
kratos644 wrote:
CharruaWarrior wrote:Initial army placement would drag the game. I've been on a site that literally took over 2 months to have all the armies placed.

The attack details is a great idea. When I first came on this site that was something I looked for.

I also looked for a log showing how many armies and territories each player had. This was also on another site I played and was very useful. If a player has 15 territories I would know I would have to conquer 4 territories from him so he gets the minimum amount of armies on his turn. It's easier than counting territories. Also by showing the total armies a player has you can easily see the strongest player to the weekest. 8-[

BOB... ;)


Well, seems like many of BOB's features should've been folded into the site long ago.

I will say that I agree with you there Incand. They did make a start at it by listing the next redemption value which BOB did, too. Next it would be nice to see the territ and army counter incorporated as well.

I'd like to see the 1v1 team games in first though. ;)
That'd be so sick. And be great for DW and I in our challenge 8-)
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby lord voldemort on Sun Aug 23, 2009 8:39 pm

Ugly_Moose wrote:Something I would like to see is a penalty for deadbeats.

If you are kicked out of a game for missed turns then the points are doubled what you loose and the other players are rewarded for sitting through this with double points.

This should discourage missed turn drop outs.

open for so much abuse
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby kratos644 on Sun Aug 23, 2009 9:52 pm

lord voldemort wrote:
Ugly_Moose wrote:Something I would like to see is a penalty for deadbeats.

If you are kicked out of a game for missed turns then the points are doubled what you loose and the other players are rewarded for sitting through this with double points.

This should discourage missed turn drop outs.

open for so much abuse

Depends on how it's done. I don't think the winner should get extra points. But the loser should lose extra points...
Say to people equal score 1000 and 1000 for this example.
player A deadbeats so player B wins
Player A loses 40 points for deadbeating but player B still only gets 20.
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby Sargeant_Pepper on Sun Aug 23, 2009 11:44 pm

CharruaWarrior wrote:Initial army placement would drag the game. I've been on a site that literally took over 2 months to have all the armies placed.

I think initial army placement could be something added later on down the road, when many of the other interesting features have been added. This would, in my opinion, take too long to start. Imagine an 8 player game. It would take years! Obviously this would be optional, but there are better upgrades which I beleive would benefit all players, would be for the log to show players territories ATTACKED but not conquered. This is what I assumed Attack details in game log was. Sounds a lot like the Log 2.0 promised in 2006? :-$
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby MeDeFe on Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:13 am

kratos644 wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:
Ugly_Moose wrote:Something I would like to see is a penalty for deadbeats.

If you are kicked out of a game for missed turns then the points are doubled what you loose and the other players are rewarded for sitting through this with double points.

This should discourage missed turn drop outs.

open for so much abuse

Depends on how it's done. I don't think the winner should get extra points. But the loser should lose extra points...
Say to people equal score 1000 and 1000 for this example.
player A deadbeats so player B wins
Player A loses 40 points for deadbeating but player B still only gets 20.

Point deflation. The next big threat to the scoreboard?
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby yeti_c on Mon Aug 24, 2009 7:54 am

Why are people voting for "More battle royales"?

That's not a coding time issue...

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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby MeDeFe on Mon Aug 24, 2009 8:24 am

yeti_c wrote:Why are people voting for "More battle royales"?

That's not a coding time issue...

C.

Yeah, they happen every now and then (usually around the christio-pagan new year celebrations), no need to have more of them. I say keep them rare.
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby Optimus Prime on Mon Aug 24, 2009 9:03 am

yeti_c wrote:Why are people voting for "More battle royales"?

That's not a coding time issue...

C.

With the future intent of battle royales, yes it is. ;)
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby jwithington on Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:02 am

one of the things i love about CC is the random placement of armies, so i hope if the initial thing goes through, we will be able to chose one or the other.

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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby jpcloet on Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:07 am

yeti_c wrote:Why are people voting for "More battle royales"?

That's not a coding time issue...

C.


I've asked about 15-20 player games (Mni-BR's) and I was told it was a coding issue.
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Aug 24, 2009 10:48 am

jwithington wrote:one of the things i love about CC is the random placement of armies, so i hope if the initial thing goes through, we will be able to chose one or the other.

thanks!

Indeed, there would likely be an option to select your drop, or just go with the random initial placement.

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I think I'm most in favor of Initial Army Placement for the update or part of it...though an Account Sitting Feature and Clickable Maps are probably more of a "Must".


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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby hwhrhett on Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:02 am

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jwithington wrote:one of the things i love about CC is the random placement of armies, so i hope if the initial thing goes through, we will be able to chose one or the other.

thanks!

Indeed, there would likely be an option to select your drop, or just go with the random initial placement.

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I think I'm most in favor of Initial Army Placement for the update or part of it...though an Account Sitting Feature and Clickable Maps are probably more of a "Must".


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clickable maps shouldnt be a must, since it can already be achieved with an add-on.
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Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:11 am

But I think it is logical sense to extend many addons into site-wide features for ease of everyone's use. This is what we did with many old Greasemonkey Features, and will probably continue to do.


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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby MeDeFe on Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:33 am

I actually prefer the drop-down menus over clickable maps.
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Re: The next big update... [Feedback Desired]

Postby AndyDufresne on Mon Aug 24, 2009 11:42 am

MeDeFe wrote:I actually prefer the drop-down menus over clickable maps.

I'm not entirely sure, but I think clickable maps would be an Game Setting you could choose via your Personal Menu. But don't hold me too it, I'm not entirely sure what Lack has planned in his shell.


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