My Mafia history

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Fine, we all have our reasons to believe what we believe, and play as we play.
Sometimes we take it too far, or are in a bad mood and end up doing things that are unkind, we all make mistakes, and many of our vet players were hated or blacklisted at one time or another, that's why I try to work things out. We really do try to be a friendly community.

If you want I can talk to chap and edoc for you about the post linking off site, and get this sorted out?

This is, above all else a game forum, for having fun. As long as we all continue keep our minds on the game (and keep in mind it is a game) and behave ourselves like we're all doing in CYOC and too many items, we can put this behind us, ok?

[Yomiel]

I would certainly appreciate any help getting those posts deleted.

[edocsil]

You would have to ask ChapCrap (NCIS game mod) about working out removing the information since it's his thread.
I'm pretty sure "edoc'sil" is an Eragon reference, so it's sure to be a common name, and the Edoc on this site is a confirmed American by IP address. Is that an acceptable amount of reasonable doubt?

You would be correct. Sadly the book to too popular for me to continue using the name, it is always taken. The only other one I go by is StormBeforeDawn and maintain the same avatar.

Finding the links as / said.

"Yomiel mafia" leads to "Sakura-chan mafia" which leads to gamefaqs, which leads to your dozens of multies and bans. As for removing the links, I am not inclined. This is her phantasy, so I am not breaching anything in terms of personal information. I am linking to a cite showing that she is a raving lunatic. There are no real life names, no nothing. I am fucking pissed about being called a rapist and a murder and about having done jailtime. None of these are factual, but they do breach the personal information clauses.

What I want is I want her gone. I have no intent of "working it out" She is unstable and not in fit condition to play a rational, thinking, game here and I have no desire to watch her ruin games because her head isn't on right. And despite the fact that she has crossed a few lines due to our wonderful escalating ban system she will only be gone for 24 hours even if she does get pinged cor making her nonfactual claims. Sadly she has avoided the mistake of making a multi here, and that is pretty much the only way she is going to be able to get a permanent holiday.

[Yomiel]

See, this is what makes me even more certain that this guy is who I think he is. You haven't been dealing with him for years, but it's just too obvious. I'd like to think most people would no better than to post links like those or bring up someone's dead relative and all the horrible details of that tragedy. There's also how he played nice in the NCIS Mafia thread at first, then suddenly started attacking me out of nowhere, completely unprovoked. He also kind of confirms it by saying I called him those things.

Him being that guy is also backed up by how insistent he is that I have all these multiple accounts. This is FALSE, and it was something that guy clung to obsessively. He has stalked me around the net for years, and we actually only met because he claimed I was some girl he was harassing on Wikipedia.

Edo, YOU are the one who suddenly attacked me in the Mafia thread. Nothing was going on, and I did nothing at all to provoke you. And then you went beyond the game, searching me and posting up links containing personal information that was then abused. You posted stuff originally posted by a guy who has spent years stalking me and actually got in legal trouble for doing the same to a younger girl. The stuff was false, not that you cared to find that out in your effort to slander me. And then you took it a step further, providing information about my sister, which was then mocked. It's not a joke, and you need to stop harassing me.

[pmchugh]

I went and read the NCIS thread. (which if ever a replacement is needed for I am prime for now lol)

My opinion:

1. Edoc is not the person you think he is, that much is pretty obvious.
2. The vets in that thread should have done more to calm the situation, I realised most of you tried but at the end of the day it is a game and the girl wasn't talking to herself. There is no way those discussions should have lasted 30 pages.
3. The best thing to do from here is to forget the situation and move on. If you don't wish to be part of the site any longer then that would be a simple solution. If you wish to continue playing mafia games here then I would suggest you try move on from this situation as quickly as possible and return to the actual in game play.

People have a tendency to get mad in this forum, but everyone is forgiving too. If you want to fit in here, forgive the people in that game, learn to accommodate the slower paced games and they will forgive you too.

[jak111]

Yomiel.. I made that big nice post yesterday that you spent no heading to. I told you to chill out and think about it.

Think about this. Edoc has been a long time member here. You said this guy lived in Holland, Edoc lives in AMERICA (Confirmed with IP address). Now with you being proved wrong right there, you continue to call him a stalker, a rapist, and a murderer. You're slandering his name with accusations, and slander IS AGAINST THE LAW. Look it up.

Fastposted. Aye, people are forgiving, but I would emphasis moving on quickly. The longer you keep on about it the more people will grow tiredsome to bother putting up with it.

[Yomiel]

Edo's behavior continues to suggest he is that person, so I have no reason to think otherwise. Those posts are all still there, with those links and the comments about my sister. Doesn't make forgetting too easy. And he slandered me before I said a word about him.

[DiM]

this morning i woke up covered in cold sweat. i had a nightmare i was being stalked by edocsil.
the creepiest thing is that while i was rubbing my eye i think i caught a glimpse of a stalker outside my window.
vote edocsil for being creepy.
plus i want to know what your night action was.

[pmchugh]

Edo's behavior continues to suggest he is that person, so I have no reason to think otherwise. Those posts are all still there, with those links and the comments about my sister. Doesn't make forgetting too easy. And he slandered me before I said a word about him.

1. You thought edoc of being "that person" prior to him posting the links. (I can quote if you want)
2. A quick Google of your username would present the same information gathered.
3. His username is a popular one, and he has been living in the US ever since he joined this forum.
4. His initial post in that game was pleasant towards you and he tried to move on from the situation, I severely doubt he had any prior knowledge of your situation.
5. He joined this site well before you.

If you want the links removed then accusing him of being some horrible person is not the best way to do so, I think if you agreed to stop making accusations and to let the situation drop then edoc would agree to taking down the links. If you agree to do both those things and edoc still does not remove the links, then you will have a case for him being nasty to you.

[Yomiel]

It's not something to joke about. Being stalked is a very serious and creepy thing.

No, I did not think Edo was that person before he posted those links. I DID think that he must know me from somewhere else, like another Mafia forum. Since I know of many people who play on more than one site, it's not a big leap. And how else can you explain his sudden attack? I did not provoke him at all. I merely suggested that someone might sneak a serious vote into the joke vote phase, and he goes ballistic on me, starting all that happened after.

Edo is the one in the wrong here, and those links and the nasty comments should be taken down regardless. They were inappropriate and posted only to slander me and incite flames against me. I already have a case of him being nasty to me. His first post in the thread might have been nice, but he turned VERY quickly, when the fighting had long stopped and a discussion was going on.

[Yomiel]

Because of Edo posting those links, which led to FALSE information, this situation has become even worse. I've got people making jokes about my sister, the duplicate accounts I don't have, and the stalking. Those are not things you should ever joke about. It's inhumane. Losing my sister in such a way was terrible, and being stalked is also pretty bad. Again, how can you expect me to forget it when people keep mocking me about them or even just harassing me in general?

[Iron Butterfly]

I cant even believe you people are even humoring this piece of dung.

All you have to do is look at what this shit hole has done in these mafia games, how they have acted ect, and their complete psycho attitude.

Now you give this psycho a stage to drag Edocscil name into its performance.

Fucking insane.

[Yomiel]

See? It's people that act like this that prevent me from just forgetting as well. And to think this all started just because I wanted the game to start, while the others wanted to joke around. I've been as civil as possible, yet they call me the nastiest of names, twist the truth, and harass me. Edo is NOT the victim here. He's one of the people who caused this mess to spin out of control.

[pmchugh]

I gave you the chance to let it drop, if you really cared about the links or whatever then you would have agreed to let the subject drop in exchange for having the links taken down.

I think the best thing at this moment in time is for this thread to be locked.

[Yomiel]

See, that is part of the problem. This isn't something that can just be dropped, as people like Iron and Dim are proving, it's not going to get dropped. These are very traumatic things I've went through, yet they joke around and insult me. But rather than call people like them out, you act like I'm in the wrong. It's the same thing that happened in the NCIS thread. We were all behaving civilly, then Edo suddenly went crazy on me without me doing a thing. And everyone just backed him despite that.