[Official] NBC Mafia Town Win MVP=trinicardinal

[betiko]

Scene

After the events of the day, many citizens were eager to begin the new day. The discussions had led to many suspicions, an a few of them were sure to be realized.

A man noticed some suspicious looking creatures in an alleyway.

"You there, what do you think you're doing?" He cried, walking up to one of them.

As the creature turned around, the man recognized who he was.

"You! You're one of the ones responsible for all these deaths!"

However, the man failed to notice that the other creature had sneaked behind him. As the man turned around to leave, the other creature smacked the man in the face with a frying pan.

As the man's vision slowly faded to black he was able to make out a third creature talking nonstop at a what looked like an animal's skeleton. The skeleton seemed to be annoyed, but was unable to get by the chattering creature.

Rodion, The Mayor, Town Cop has been killed!

It is now Day 5! With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

dammit - ok time to at least get something positive out of this situation.

1. The scene makes it clear that I was roleblocked.
2. The scene also makes it clear that the roleblock is made part of the scene where it involves the busdriver - therefore MoB could not have been roleblocked on N3. That's further proof that MoB was lying.
3. Betiko - what was your night action? - you were supposed to take care of Epitaph
4. Epi - same question - you were supposed to cover Rodion.
5. I'd love to vote immediately for MoB but I am holding to Rodion's request that we discuss everything fully - FOS MoB
6. I have to return Epitaph to my suspect list - he may well be mafia
7. thing is MoB is also mafia which makes betiko a strong possibility as well.
8. MeDeFe - what input do you have for us?

I'll get to more in a while

I guess i now have to say it... but those 2 devices were the only things I had. I had to keep up the mystery to be another potential threat on mafias last night with the bus, rodion and medefe.
I think all this scene and rodion's death despite of his recommendations makes it pretty clear that epitaph isn't a backup doctor and that he lied. how do you explain that epi?

[MeDeFe]

8. MeDeFe - what input do you have for us?

For now I'd like to hear from Epitaph as well. His job as claimed backup doctor was to protect Rodion so we could get a reading on dazza or chapcrap. He was very clearly not roleblocked, so just what was he up to then?

[trinicardinal]

From what Rodion reviewed before, Epitaph is probably mafia.

It looks like the busdriver (Trini or MoB) was probably role blocked and then there was no doctor to save anyone.

Those who claim to have night actions, care to share what you did last night?

btw just to satisfy the question - my action that I sent in was to bus Rodion and betiko. As I said I was obviously roleblocked. I also got no pm stating that I was blocked.

saf - I'm sorry but I have to ask this question publicly now... given all that has happened in D4 and the scene coming out of N4 - Can you now confirm whether the busdriver is informed if he is roleblocked?

[dazza2008]

From what Rodion reviewed before, Epitaph is probably mafia.

It looks like the busdriver (Trini or MoB) was probably role blocked and then there was no doctor to save anyone.

Those who claim to have night actions, care to share what you did last night?

btw just to satisfy the question - my action that I sent in was to bus Rodion and betiko. As I said I was obviously roleblocked. I also got no pm stating that I was blocked.

saf - I'm sorry but I have to ask this question publicly now... given all that has happened in D4 and the scene coming out of N4 - Can you now confirm whether the busdriver is informed if he is roleblocked?

I am sure he already answered this on day 4.

Anyway Epi has to be scum. FOS Epi.

[Epitaph1]

omg. I can't believe it.

I followed my instructions and told Saf to protect Rodion. My internet came back online Monday and that's when I got caught up and sent in my night action (so, don't look at me for the hold up).

I never received any message saying that I was roleblocked and, given the scene, I don't think that's what happened anyway. The only thing I can think of is that I'm a naive doctor, which fits the character I suppose. But seriously, I followed the plan that was given to me.

I guess we'll hear MoB's night actions and go from there.

[dazza2008]

omg. I can't believe it.

I followed my instructions and told Saf to protect Rodion. My internet came back online Monday and that's when I got caught up and sent in my night action (so, don't look at me for the hold up).

I never received any message saying that I was roleblocked and, given the scene, I don't think that's what happened anyway. The only thing I can think of is that I'm a naive doctor, which fits the character I suppose. But seriously, I followed the plan that was given to me.

I guess we'll hear MoB's night actions and go from there.

A naive backup doc seems very unlikely to me.

[betiko]

omg. I can't believe it.

I followed my instructions and told Saf to protect Rodion. My internet came back online Monday and that's when I got caught up and sent in my night action (so, don't look at me for the hold up).

I never received any message saying that I was roleblocked and, given the scene, I don't think that's what happened anyway. The only thing I can think of is that I'm a naive doctor, which fits the character I suppose. But seriously, I followed the plan that was given to me.

I guess we'll hear MoB's night actions and go from there.

yeah that's lame. I hope the rest of the town is not falling for that. it doesn't fit the flavour simply because you are not igor, and you are not either a back up doc; which has just been proven. To cut the crap, i will vote for you because there are no 2 igors and I hope the rest of the town is taking you down. I got the feeling you are not only scum, but you are probably also the roleblocker. that's pure gut feeling, but I'm 100% sure about the scum part since your claim, obviously.

vote epitaph

[MoB Deadly]

Will post today, please don't rush things. We do not want a speed lynch.

[trinicardinal]

omg. I can't believe it.

I followed my instructions and told Saf to protect Rodion. My internet came back online Monday and that's when I got caught up and sent in my night action (so, don't look at me for the hold up).

I never received any message saying that I was roleblocked and, given the scene, I don't think that's what happened anyway. The only thing I can think of is that I'm a naive doctor, which fits the character I suppose. But seriously, I followed the plan that was given to me.

I guess we'll hear MoB's night actions and go from there.

yeah that's lame. I hope the rest of the town is not falling for that. it doesn't fit the flavour simply because you are not igor, and you are not either a back up doc; which has just been proven. To cut the crap, i will vote for you because there are no 2 igors and I hope the rest of the town is taking you down. I got the feeling you are not only scum, but you are probably also the roleblocker. that's pure gut feeling, but I'm 100% sure about the scum part since your claim, obviously.

vote epitaph

It definitely comes across as lame alright - but yours does too... so i still am doubtful about both of you. Quite frankly betiko your whole claim has been lame from the start so at this point I'm not sure about either of you. the one person I'm sure about is MoB though. btw betiko, remember Rodion was saying we should not rush with votes, I agree with that which is why I used FOS earlier as he suggested. Its a bit scummy that you are not taking that into consideration at all. We are in the same position today as yesterday meaning that if we give mafia a chance to speed lynch town has had it. The same thing applies if we mislynch.

at this point my list would have to read:

Town
MeDeFe - Jack
trinicardinal - Busdriver


not sure but likely town
Leitz - I'm fairly sure about Leitz though.
dazza
chap

scum/ seeming pretty scummy
MoB - this one I know for sure
betiko - an inventor with only 2 inventions and where those names were suspicious to say the least. there are lots of things wrong with this claim.
Epitaph - backup doctor who claims to have protected some one who died and the backup doctor was obviously not roleblocked.

So there are still 3 mafia at least out there? I'm guessing Rodion's list must've been spot on since they killed him and he was becoming a thread to mafia. I say we start from his list!

looks right Leitz - my independent thoughts are coming up with the same possible scum list right now... I have to go back through the llists to confirm details but I definitely need to take a renewed look at Epi.

[betiko]

omg. I can't believe it.

I followed my instructions and told Saf to protect Rodion. My internet came back online Monday and that's when I got caught up and sent in my night action (so, don't look at me for the hold up).

I never received any message saying that I was roleblocked and, given the scene, I don't think that's what happened anyway. The only thing I can think of is that I'm a naive doctor, which fits the character I suppose. But seriously, I followed the plan that was given to me.

I guess we'll hear MoB's night actions and go from there.

yeah that's lame. I hope the rest of the town is not falling for that. it doesn't fit the flavour simply because you are not igor, and you are not either a back up doc; which has just been proven. To cut the crap, i will vote for you because there are no 2 igors and I hope the rest of the town is taking you down. I got the feeling you are not only scum, but you are probably also the roleblocker. that's pure gut feeling, but I'm 100% sure about the scum part since your claim, obviously.

vote epitaph

It definitely comes across as lame alright - but yours does too... so i still am doubtful about both of you. Quite frankly betiko your whole claim has been lame from the start so at this point I'm not sure about either of you. the one person I'm sure about is MoB though. btw betiko, remember Rodion was saying we should not rush with votes, I agree with that which is why I used FOS earlier as he suggested. Its a bit scummy that you are not taking that into consideration at all. We are in the same position today as yesterday meaning that if we give mafia a chance to speed lynch town has had it. The same thing applies if we mislynch.

at this point my list would have to read:

Town
MeDeFe - Jack
trinicardinal - Busdriver


not sure but likely town
Leitz - I'm fairly sure about Leitz though.
dazza
chap

scum/ seeming pretty scummy
MoB - this one I know for sure
betiko - an inventor with only 2 inventions and where those names were suspicious to say the least. there are lots of things wrong with this claim.
Epitaph - backup doctor who claims to have protected some one who died and the backup doctor was obviously not roleblocked.

So there are still 3 mafia at least out there? I'm guessing Rodion's list must've been spot on since they killed him and he was becoming a thread to mafia. I say we start from his list!

looks right Leitz - my independent thoughts are coming up with the same possible scum list right now... I have to go back through the llists to confirm details but I definitely need to take a renewed look at Epi.

speed lynch on epi really, after casting 1 vote? we are 8 left so need 5 votes (so max 3 mobs don't make a speed lynch); and if you have followed day 4, epi was at -1 and ddn't get lynched. fos me for that if you want, you'e just not thinking it through; why would I wait for other opinions anyway if someone claimed my character and obviously lied about being a backup doctor???
I am stil unsure between you and mob, to tell the truth you both have something wrong in your reasonings. can be mistakes, can be other roles in the mafia or in town that changed some results. but there is something that doesn't follow any logic with the info I have. I go for the sure thing, epitaph.

[trinicardinal]

speed lynch on epi really, after casting 1 vote? we are 8 left so need 5 votes (so max 3 mobs don't make a speed lynch); and if you have followed day 4, epi was at -1 and ddn't get lynched. fos me for that if you want, you'e just not thinking it through; why would I wait for other opinions anyway if someone claimed my character and obviously lied about being a backup doctor???
I am stil unsure between you and mob, to tell the truth you both have something wrong in your reasonings. can be mistakes, can be other roles in the mafia or in town that changed some results. but there is something that doesn't follow any logic with the info I have. I go for the sure thing, epitaph.

You are either being deliberately obtuse, skimmed my statement or didn't take the time to understand what I said. We need to take our time and be very careful today. Remember Rodion suggested placing NO votes until everything is discussed. - I am 100% sure about MoB - remember he counter claimed my role AND character and that shows me he is 100% scum. Even with that I am placing FOS just to make sure that nothing is rushed. It is very important for town for that to happen. the only people it would benefit for today to be rushed is mafia. everyone else who posted is paying attention to that fact except you. Epi being at 5 and not getting lyched has 2 possible explanations

1. Epi is scum and his scum mate(s) did not want to hammer
2. Epi is town and all the mafia were already voting for him.

@ dazza - didn't answer you before - yes I know that saf answered that question when MoB asked it and, if you remember, I spoke about several aspects of it then. Situations have changed somewhat and while I suspect his answer still will not be helpful I had to ask again after the new circumstances.

@ Epi - If what you claim is true you probably should be asking saf some questions via pm. (and that's a relatively big if at this point in time.)

I think I'm going to have a re read of D4

[safariguy5]

From what Rodion reviewed before, Epitaph is probably mafia.

It looks like the busdriver (Trini or MoB) was probably role blocked and then there was no doctor to save anyone.

Those who claim to have night actions, care to share what you did last night?

btw just to satisfy the question - my action that I sent in was to bus Rodion and betiko. As I said I was obviously roleblocked. I also got no pm stating that I was blocked.

saf - I'm sorry but I have to ask this question publicly now... given all that has happened in D4 and the scene coming out of N4 - Can you now confirm whether the busdriver is informed if he is roleblocked?

Sorry trini, cannot confirm nor deny any messages sent to any players regarding any night actions.

[trinicardinal]

From what Rodion reviewed before, Epitaph is probably mafia.

It looks like the busdriver (Trini or MoB) was probably role blocked and then there was no doctor to save anyone.

Those who claim to have night actions, care to share what you did last night?

btw just to satisfy the question - my action that I sent in was to bus Rodion and betiko. As I said I was obviously roleblocked. I also got no pm stating that I was blocked.

saf - I'm sorry but I have to ask this question publicly now... given all that has happened in D4 and the scene coming out of N4 - Can you now confirm whether the busdriver is informed if he is roleblocked?

Sorry trini, cannot confirm nor deny any messages sent to any players regarding any night actions.

figured that would be your answer but I had to ask...

[betiko]

speed lynch on epi really, after casting 1 vote? we are 8 left so need 5 votes (so max 3 mobs don't make a speed lynch); and if you have followed day 4, epi was at -1 and ddn't get lynched. fos me for that if you want, you'e just not thinking it through; why would I wait for other opinions anyway if someone claimed my character and obviously lied about being a backup doctor???
I am stil unsure between you and mob, to tell the truth you both have something wrong in your reasonings. can be mistakes, can be other roles in the mafia or in town that changed some results. but there is something that doesn't follow any logic with the info I have. I go for the sure thing, epitaph.

You are either being deliberately obtuse, skimmed my statement or didn't take the time to understand what I said. We need to take our time and be very careful today. Remember Rodion suggested placing NO votes until everything is discussed. - I am 100% sure about MoB - remember he counter claimed my role AND character and that shows me he is 100% scum. Even with that I am placing FOS just to make sure that nothing is rushed. It is very important for town for that to happen. the only people it would benefit for today to be rushed is mafia. everyone else who posted is paying attention to that fact except you. Epi being at 5 and not getting lyched has 2 possible explanations

1. Epi is scum and his scum mate(s) did not want to hammer
2. Epi is town and all the mafia were already voting for him.

@ dazza - didn't answer you before - yes I know that saf answered that question when MoB asked it and, if you remember, I spoke about several aspects of it then. Situations have changed somewhat and while I suspect his answer still will not be helpful I had to ask again after the new circumstances.

@ Epi - If what you claim is true you probably should be asking saf some questions via pm. (and that's a relatively big if at this point in time.)

I think I'm going to have a re read of D4

I think the one being obtuse or skimming is you. if you need 5 votes for a lynch, you know you are not mafia and you vote; that leaves you with 4 votes to be casted and only 3 mafia to speed lynch if you make a mistake. therefore, casting a 1st vote DOES NOT endanger town; what we don't want is a second vote on someone being casted too fast and without consulting. Anyone can cast a 1st vote; this will not change anything. casting a second vote IS dangerous. Anyone casting a second vote now is going to look very suspicious; casting a first vote is alright; it just makes a bigger point. unless you think there is a mafia double voter if it exists; but in that case mafia would ve easily won on day 4 because more than 4 people have been voted for; meaning at least 1 town must have been voted by another town at some point and yet mafia didn't win, so they have no double voter!
Do you need rodion to write you a guideline about this, or can you think for yourself? or do you just want to wash whiter than white with your new dash 2 in 1?

[trinicardinal]

Do you need rodion to write you a guideline about this, or can you think for yourself? or do you just want to wash whiter than white with your new dash 2 in 1?

a) I would really appreciate it if you could avoid being an asshole - that sort of thing is totally uncalled for.
b) in the situation its somewhat like bringing some one to L-2 and saying that we need to be concerned about the person who votes to reach L-1. I am simply saying its better to use the FOS and I consider it a bit scummy that you refuse to do so. Ofc you have also provided a lots of scum tells otherwise so I'm not surprised. I'm waiting for MoB to post his alleged night action before I go further into my cases today.