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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby new guy1 on Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:07 pm

I am Jack the Boss, im the town cop. i investigated drunkmonkey night one to a town result, as well as safariguy night two, also to a town result.
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:45 pm

Okay...disappointing investigations, but I think we can still win this. Take a look at my analysis, and let me know where I'm off...I think I'm pretty on here.

Vote Count
safariguy5 - (0)
MoB Deadly - (0)
Djfireside - (0)
Nebuchadnezer - (0)
new guy1 - (0)
Iron Butterfly - (0)
Some7thingCLEVER - (3) - safariguy5, drunkmonkey, nàme,
drunkmonkey - (0)
nàme - (0)

Vote Count
safariguy5 - (0)
MoB Deadly - (0)
Djfireside - (0)
Nebuchadnezer - (0)
new guy1 - (0)
Iron Butterfly - (0)
Some7thingCLEVER - (2) - nàme, Iron Butterfly,
drunkmonkey - (1) - Nebuchadnezer,
nàme - (1) - Some7thingCLEVER,

Vote Count
safariguy5 - (3) - MoB Deadly, Iron Butterfly, nàme,
MoB Deadly - (0)
Djfireside - (0)
Nebuchadnezer - (0)
new guy1 - (0)
Iron Butterfly - (0)
Some7thingCLEVER - (0) -
drunkmonkey - (0) -
nàme - (4) - Some7thingCLEVER, Nebuchadnezer, drunkmonkey, new guy1

Vote Count
safariguy5 - (3) - MoB Deadly, Iron Butterfly, nàme,
MoB Deadly - (0)
Djfireside - (0)
Nebuchadnezer - (0)
new guy1 - (0)
Iron Butterfly - (0)
Some7thingCLEVER - (0) -
drunkmonkey - (0) -
nàme - (2) - Nebuchadnezer, new guy1,

Vote Count
safariguy5 - (1) - MoB Deadly,
MoB Deadly - (0)
Djfireside - (0)
Nebuchadnezer - (0)
new guy1 - (0)
Iron Butterfly - (0)
Some7thingCLEVER - (0) -
drunkmonkey - (0) -
nàme - (0) -
No Lynch - (6) - safariguy5, drunkmonkey, Iron Butterfly, new guy1, Nebuchadnezer, nàme,

Vote Count
Iron Butterfly (3)- drunkmonkey, safariguy5, Some7hingCLEVER
Drunkmonkey (1) - Nebuchadnezer,

Vote Count
Iron Butterfly (5)- drunkmonkey, safariguy5, Some7hingCLEVER, MoB Deadly, nàme
Drunkmonkey (1) - Nebuchadnezer,

Players

Clear:
5. new guy1 – Jack the Boss - Cop
8. drunkmonkey – slinn shady

Suspects (in order):
9. name – Steve the Joker – He’s my number one suspect. Take a look at the voting pattern this guy has put up. He’s been in on almost every vote. He hammered our Jailer. I’d vote for him hands down.
7. Some7hingCLEVER – New Boy Dan – He’s my second bet. At some point, DJ noted that he didn’t trust clever’s claim. DJ ends up dead. Now, if my suspects were experienced players, I would pass that off as someone who is trying to set CLEVER up. However, with name and CLEVER as mafia…it’s a simple new player mistake by killing the player who didn’t trust his claim.
2. MoB Deadly - Noah “team player” – He was pretty adamant on lynching our Jailer…based on the name? Really? He’s an outside chance at mafia, however, he’s more experienced and wouldn't have 2 mafia hit the hammer on a lynch…maybe.
4. Nebuchadnezer – Hazza – I know I’m town.

So, I suggest we lynch Name then CLEVER. Right now it's 4 town vs 2 mafia. Name seems the easy choice, making it 3 town 1 mafia. Then it’s CLEVER. If we’re wrong, we lose.

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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby nàme on Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:34 am

in my defense, four people before me decided to vote for the jailer even after hearing his claim and before hearing his story. sure, i was the final hit, but at least i waited until hearing every piece of the puzzle. it didnt work out, so i guess that is my bad.

now for my suspect: newguy1. why would he just so conviently take a look at safari on night two after the suspicion around me and somethingclever? if he is mafia, then so could be drunkmonkey. i dont think it is drunkmonkey because of the fact that he knew the role pm was green, so it protects newguy1 as well. [start conspiracy] or YOU and newguy1 could be in it together and had planned this the whole time. i mean, a mafia member could have planned to claim the role of cop on the final day to make sure of the victory. [/conspiracy] who would consider the doctor being a liar when it means most? apparantly me, but that is besides the point. although, it could be any of us and i could just be completely wrong
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:43 am

nàme wrote:in my defense, four people before me decided to vote for the jailer even after hearing his claim and before hearing his story. sure, i was the final hit, but at least i waited until hearing every piece of the puzzle. it didnt work out, so i guess that is my bad.

now for my suspect: newguy1. why would he just so conviently take a look at safari on night two after the suspicion around me and somethingclever? if he is mafia, then so could be drunkmonkey. i dont think it is drunkmonkey because of the fact that he knew the role pm was green, so it protects newguy1 as well. [start conspiracy] or YOU and newguy1 could be in it together and had planned this the whole time. i mean, a mafia member could have planned to claim the role of cop on the final day to make sure of the victory. [/conspiracy] who would consider the doctor being a liar when it means most? apparantly me, but that is besides the point. although, it could be any of us and i could just be completely wrong


Terrible rebuttal. You really think there is no Cop in this game? The fact that you use this as your argument confirms my suspicions. Thank you.
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby nàme on Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:59 am

look, newguy1 didnt want the doctor to claim and share his info, then a day later he did. either its coincidence that he just happened to pick the two people who arent in question here (i guess since one is dead, but why would he check safari if we knew he was doctor?) or he actually is lying. dont discourage the possibilty or we have already lost. for all we know there isnt a cop and pnly one mafia member which would rebalance it. not to mention the fact that you are adamant on me without even considering anyone else...

i will admit that jack the boss is an execellent name (coverup?) considering the game though.
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:30 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Okay...disappointing investigations, but I think we can still win this. Take a look at my analysis, and let me know where I'm off...I think I'm pretty on here.

Vote Count
safariguy5 - (0)
MoB Deadly - (0)
Djfireside - (0)
Nebuchadnezer - (0)
new guy1 - (0)
Iron Butterfly - (0)
Some7thingCLEVER - (3) - safariguy5, drunkmonkey, nàme,
drunkmonkey - (0)
nàme - (0)

Vote Count
safariguy5 - (0)
MoB Deadly - (0)
Djfireside - (0)
Nebuchadnezer - (0)
new guy1 - (0)
Iron Butterfly - (0)
Some7thingCLEVER - (2) - nàme, Iron Butterfly,
drunkmonkey - (1) - Nebuchadnezer,
nàme - (1) - Some7thingCLEVER,

Vote Count
safariguy5 - (3) - MoB Deadly, Iron Butterfly, nàme,
MoB Deadly - (0)
Djfireside - (0)
Nebuchadnezer - (0)
new guy1 - (0)
Iron Butterfly - (0)
Some7thingCLEVER - (0) -
drunkmonkey - (0) -
nàme - (4) - Some7thingCLEVER, Nebuchadnezer, drunkmonkey, new guy1

Vote Count
safariguy5 - (3) - MoB Deadly, Iron Butterfly, nàme,
MoB Deadly - (0)
Djfireside - (0)
Nebuchadnezer - (0)
new guy1 - (0)
Iron Butterfly - (0)
Some7thingCLEVER - (0) -
drunkmonkey - (0) -
nàme - (2) - Nebuchadnezer, new guy1,

Vote Count
safariguy5 - (1) - MoB Deadly,
MoB Deadly - (0)
Djfireside - (0)
Nebuchadnezer - (0)
new guy1 - (0)
Iron Butterfly - (0)
Some7thingCLEVER - (0) -
drunkmonkey - (0) -
nàme - (0) -
No Lynch - (6) - safariguy5, drunkmonkey, Iron Butterfly, new guy1, Nebuchadnezer, nàme,

Vote Count
Iron Butterfly (3)- drunkmonkey, safariguy5, Some7hingCLEVER
Drunkmonkey (1) - Nebuchadnezer,

Vote Count
Iron Butterfly (5)- drunkmonkey, safariguy5, Some7hingCLEVER, MoB Deadly, nàme
Drunkmonkey (1) - Nebuchadnezer,

Players

Clear:
5. new guy1 – Jack the Boss - Cop
8. drunkmonkey – slinn shady

Suspects (in order):
9. name – Steve the Joker – He’s my number one suspect. Take a look at the voting pattern this guy has put up. He’s been in on almost every vote. He hammered our Jailer. I’d vote for him hands down.
7. Some7hingCLEVER – New Boy Dan – He’s my second bet. At some point, DJ noted that he didn’t trust clever’s claim. DJ ends up dead. Now, if my suspects were experienced players, I would pass that off as someone who is trying to set CLEVER up. However, with name and CLEVER as mafia…it’s a simple new player mistake by killing the player who didn’t trust his claim.
2. MoB Deadly - Noah “team player” – He was pretty adamant on lynching our Jailer…based on the name? Really? He’s an outside chance at mafia, however, he’s more experienced and wouldn't have 2 mafia hit the hammer on a lynch…maybe.
4. Nebuchadnezer – Hazza – I know I’m town.

So, I suggest we lynch Name then CLEVER. Right now it's 4 town vs 2 mafia. Name seems the easy choice, making it 3 town 1 mafia. Then it’s CLEVER. If we’re wrong, we lose.

Thoughts?


ok the thing about me
I know im new but I would NEVER
EVER
EVER
hit a guy who wanted me dead or didn't trust me
That case is pretty much all of that I am new sorry but I know I have used the im new excuse but it's been close to a month now id like to stop being treated as new especially if it's gonna get cases put against me
And so on that note I'm gonnaunvote vote name
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Sat Feb 25, 2012 12:34 pm

EBWOP
Because in the beginning he voted me and even past joke voting kept it on for a while after
He just doesn't sit right in my chair
And your right he seems to be wanting to lynch someone fast by throwing his vote in almost every pile
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby nàme on Sat Feb 25, 2012 3:57 pm

in my defense i also hammered no lynch and voted safari mainly for pressure and to save myself, not to mention me voting in every pile is a huge exaggeration. and after my vote on the first day, you OMGUS vote me then and now. explain please
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:19 pm

nàme wrote:in my defense i also hammered no lynch and voted safari mainly for pressure and to save myself, not to mention me voting in every pile is a huge exaggeration. and after my vote on the first day, you OMGUS vote me then and now. explain please


Saving yourself it's definitely scummy...and hammering the no lynch...big deal.
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby nàme on Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:48 pm

so... voting for someone who we as a town wanted to pressure because we thought someone was evil, and protecting a townie is bad? having i been playing this all wrong?
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:08 pm

If that's why u did it why did u say to save urself
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:22 pm

nàme wrote:in my defense, four people before me decided to vote for the jailer even after hearing his claim and before hearing his story. sure, i was the final hit, but at least i waited until hearing every piece of the puzzle. it didnt work out, so i guess that is my bad.

now for my suspect: newguy1. why would he just so conviently take a look at safari on night two after the suspicion around me and somethingclever? if he is mafia, then so could be drunkmonkey. i dont think it is drunkmonkey because of the fact that he knew the role pm was green, so it protects newguy1 as well. [start conspiracy] or YOU and newguy1 could be in it together and had planned this the whole time. i mean, a mafia member could have planned to claim the role of cop on the final day to make sure of the victory. [/conspiracy] who would consider the doctor being a liar when it means most? apparantly me, but that is besides the point. although, it could be any of us and i could just be completely wrong


ok everyone knows what color the roles are after night one considering they are one page one under who is dead so the fact that you think they are if cause they know the color is not right so maybe your trying to make sure noone looks into it after we(if we do) lynch you show up scum idk your just all over the place and panicky and it just doesn't seem right to me
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby nàme on Sun Feb 26, 2012 1:20 am

i saved myself because i knew i was town. one townie > possibilty of townie. if i seem panicky, you should look at yourself, you spit out a whole paragraph with no pauses :P
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Sun Feb 26, 2012 4:21 am

How does that make me panicky
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby nàme on Sun Feb 26, 2012 2:07 pm

people who dont stop talking seem panicky, but it was mostly a joke
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby new guy1 on Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:13 pm

hello, im back from the paintball trip. anyways, i saw a quote in particular that i wanted to explain, and so i shall post in a second.
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby new guy1 on Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:22 pm

nàme wrote:in my defense, four people before me decided to vote for the jailer even after hearing his claim and before hearing his story. sure, i was the final hit, but at least i waited until hearing every piece of the puzzle. it didnt work out, so i guess that is my bad.

now for my suspect: newguy1. why would he just so conviently take a look at safari on night two after the suspicion around me and somethingclever? if he is mafia, then so could be drunkmonkey. i dont think it is drunkmonkey because of the fact that he knew the role pm was green, so it protects newguy1 as well. [start conspiracy] or YOU and newguy1 could be in it together and had planned this the whole time. i mean, a mafia member could have planned to claim the role of cop on the final day to make sure of the victory. [/conspiracy] who would consider the doctor being a liar when it means most? apparantly me, but that is besides the point. although, it could be any of us and i could just be completely wrong



this is the only thing i had anything to comment on. i was not here to claim sooner, as i was out playing paintball all day, and so i was unable to be here any sooner. as far as voting goes, i believe Nebuchadnezer made good points, and he has good research behind his cases. Name, however, seems to be searching for any cases he can come up with, trying to connect me and drunkmonkey, etc. we agreed on one, maybe two things, but there is nothing to link us coordinating at all. i took a look at safari as i did not see any other real leads in who to pick, and so i wished to confirm his claim.

im assuming by this green part you mean cop, because i claimed cop...

when you doubt yourself, im pretty sure everyone should doube you.
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby nàme on Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:52 am

yes, sorry i did mean cop. it was a long week for me. im doubting myself because if no one believes me then i am probably wrong, or the game is over. not much change going to happen there ^^

honestly, im just trying to fish here, hoping someone will snap and give out extra information (like iron butterfly, but with more friendly results), but it appears hopeless. the only possible thing i could think of would be to nolynch today, then have you check at night for me or someone else. but then again, that wouldnt work so you would be killed.
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby jonty125 on Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:24 am

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nàme - (1) - Some7hingCLEVER

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch, deadline is Sat 10 March @ 1600 GMT.
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:16 am

I'm sticking to my first thought....now name advocates for a no lynch?
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby new guy1 on Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:17 am

nàme wrote:yes, sorry i did mean cop. it was a long week for me. im doubting myself because if no one believes me then i am probably wrong, or the game is over. not much change going to happen there ^^

honestly, im just trying to fish here, hoping someone will snap and give out extra information (like iron butterfly, but with more friendly results), but it appears hopeless. the only possible thing i could think of would be to nolynch today, then have you check at night for me or someone else. but then again, that wouldnt work so you would be killed.


i understand, and im sure, if you are town, that you are just trying your best to catch a mafia here to try to give us another day to work with, but going and accusing a town cop claim probably isnt the best place to start, especially when i have all the info from both nights. im seriously doubting that im a neive cop, so i think my info can be trusted, and that we can trust the word of DM, safari, and me. and although you present your reasoning, i believe im going to vote name as i believe he is the best candidate for a lynch. i agree that we could possibly go for a no lynch IF we dont get better evidence to support hammering him, but i believe him to be the scummiest out of all of us here.

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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby nàme on Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:35 am

Nebuchadnezer wrote:I'm sticking to my first thought....now name advocates for a no lynch?
Vote name

nàme wrote: but then again, that wouldnt work so you would be killed.


yep, me always wanting a nolynch when saying it wont work. clap me in irons, i must be guilty
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby Some7hingCLEVER on Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:59 am

ok lets assume that new guy is town and actually the cop (which i do actually do believe) and i already know i am town
and he investigated safari and DM and got town results which is 1..2..3 towns that we know off
which leaves name and Neb and mob deadly to be mafia but there are only two so we would have to dig to find that out
if we no lynch ...a town will die then new guy will have to test one of those three at night and when we get the result back we will know who the mafia is
leaving it 3 v 2 and if new guys claim is real we know who mafia is so we can lynch one ...then a town will die again
making it 2 v1 and then we get the other mafia and town wins...this is the only way i see town winning

if we lynch someone there is two scenario
A.) we lynch town which leaves means town dies at night leaving it 2v2 which means town would lose
B.) buuut if we lynch a mafia then its 3 v 1 and that is way more managable in my mind
and even after saying this i will keep my vote knowing of three town and name is the scummiest of the three left and i truly believe that he is mafia

other scenario
if new guy is not the cop then we lost a town but
then we can still win if we get the mafia
it would just be more difficult considering that we would still have to also look into drunkmonkey

but anyways these are the two options i see right now
but if we could get a mafia before night this game would be in the bag for town

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how would it not work to lynch someone?
honestly i feel no lynch is a bad idea
and its not our only option...if nolynch becomes our ONLY options then yes i will agree but otherwise i want to play this day out

and can you prod mob so we can hear his thoughts on this
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby new guy1 on Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:40 am

unvote. Taking him off l1 in case.
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Re: Office Mafia (6/9) D3: Is there a doctor in the office?

Postby Nebuchadnezer on Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:37 pm

Well, CLEVER...you are beginning to seem more town.

I would almost be willing to substitute MoB for CLEVER on my list...but only because MoB is extremely quiet right now.

However, I think name has more than put up enough evidence to show that he's just trying to confuse town by throwing out alternate options that really don't exist as options at all:

1. Is newguy1 really the cop? Yes. There is a chance there could be NO cop in this game, but I'll go under the assumption that he is. He's trying to throw us off on a wild chase, and introduce doubt as to the claim.
2. Vote no lynch to get more info? newguy1 is dead after tonight...what info will that give us? Right, he says it won't work after saying it...but he's still throwing the idea out there as a "possible" option. It's not an option at all.
3. He also threw out there that maybe newguy and drunkmonkey were mafia. Under the guise of "conspiracy theory"...but again, trying to give us all a reason to doubt what we know.

Remember, mafia's only goal is to cause doubt and questions. Name is trying to do this, but I don't think he is succeeding...
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