H.E. Mafia, Game Over, Town Prevails. [archive plox]

[everywhere116]

Subtext. Reading between the lines. Sometimes not presenting all the information to the town and making the discussion open is better. Crap.

Doom has already claimed to be blocked. We might as well wait for sound to get back with his night action choice.

[DoomYoshi]

I chose to investigate spiesr last night. People mentioned that 4 investigative roles was too many and I agree. Now this is a ridiculous gambit, but I think that spiesr may have realized there was no cop and sold chapcrap in order to win the game. The reason being that 2 mafia were down, and a desperate action is needed. Now, I know I am probably going to get lynched tonight. However, when I flip town continue as you are. Remember when it is down to 3 of you to kill spiesr though.

[spiesr]

I chose to investigate spiesr last night. People mentioned that 4 investigative roles was too many and I agree. Now this is a ridiculous gambit, but I think that spiesr may have realized there was no cop and sold chapcrap in order to win the game. The reason being that 2 mafia were down, and a desperate action is needed. Now, I know I am probably going to get lynched tonight. However, when I flip town continue as you are. Remember when it is down to 3 of you to kill spiesr though.

A quick rebuttal before I am done for the night. While the idea of me selling out chapcrap in an attempt to gain enough town credability to slide all the way to the end with a cop claim seems interesting and maybe plausible enough when taken soley as the idea, it doesn't really seem to work in context in my opinion. Let's look back, when was it that I started my case on Chapcrap (and hid my claimed result on him)? It was day 3. The exact timing is of some importance. It was before Mob made his claim ensuring SomethingClever would be the lynch for the day, yet after SomethingClever blundered enough to make his lynch a real possibility again. Two mafia were not down, one was and another had a claim that had been believed the day before, but was in the process of wandering down the road to self incrimination. Why would I choose that time to sellout Chapcrap? If what I wanted was credibility, couldn't I have picked some up from leading a lynch against SomethingClever? Having been one of the few people who wanted to lynch him during day 2 I think people would have accepted me doing so. Why would I sacrifice my partner who was not under any meaningful levels of suspicion when it would have been easier to toss the one who was on their way to talking them-self into a lynch and who I had a history of going against anyway? Look what ended up happening anyway. Mob counters SomethingClever and he is quickly lynched while my vote sits on Chapcrap as the only vote that anybody got around to casting before the bandwagon. Then Strike goes and night kills Clever, possibly picking up on the meaning behind my case against him. (Assuming that he knew his target was scum.)
Come on, if you want to make a case against me at least pick something better than that as your base. Like maybe the way I kinda wanted to lynch Soundman over Safariguy or something?

Also, if I "realized there was no cop" then what are you?

[soundman]

Yes I did block Doom last night. I didn't want to say anything right off because I was hoping he's say he got investigation results. It was a long shot and even if he is mafia I think he's too experienced to fall into that trap. Oh well.

So anyway before I sent in my action I made up a list and checked my research after Jonty came up VT.
Here are all those left. Crossed out means I believe their claims:
Mob
Spiesr
Everywhere
New Guy
Dazza - Believe (But not enough to cross out)
Victor
Doom
Jak - Believe (But not enough to cross out)

So I blocked Doom last night. Doesn't tell us much since the mafia didn't attempt a kill. (I'm going off the scene here, no struggle and no signs of a save). I had the thought that Doom could be telling the truth and in fact be a Flavor Cop. But he could be a MAFIA Flavor Cop. Victor has been really quiet and at this point in the game I don't think that's like him. Doing a little math, as long as there is only one mafia left then we can work our way through the list and come out on top even with a few mislynches. So I'm going to Vote Doom. If he's not mafia then we can take Victor tomorrow. Unless night actions come up with something else.

[new guy1]

Well I am going to say that since Doom claimed flavor cop and claimed to investigate people who had either claimed/ were dead anyways, I found his claim faulty. So I will Vote Doomyoshi if I havent already. I will go back and look right now.

[new guy1]

Scratch the post above I already voted!

[MoB Deadly]

Hm I didn't know I was still technically in this game, I just skimmed what happened since my last post. I was not PMed to submit an action last night and therefore missed it.

I believe soundman blocked the kill last night.

vote doom

I 100% will NOT be in the country from 3/31 -> 4/11, so.. I cannot physically read or post in that time frame.

[jak111]

Hmm, well the problem I have is that I sort of believe Doom's claim and will not take part of this lynching, so my vote stays on Dazza.

[everywhere116]

I chose to investigate spiesr last night. People mentioned that 4 investigative roles was too many and I agree. Now this is a ridiculous gambit, but I think that spiesr may have realized there was no cop and sold chapcrap in order to win the game. The reason being that 2 mafia were down, and a desperate action is needed. Now, I know I am probably going to get lynched tonight. However, when I flip town continue as you are. Remember when it is down to 3 of you to kill spiesr though.

The thought had crossed my mind. And it would explain why speisr got an innocent result on strike instead of the third party (only knowing who the scum were, not who the SK was.) But your scenario is factually incorrect. Speisr had no reason to sell out Chap, since not an iota of suspicion was placed on either of them at the time. There were not two mafia down, only one was down (people were questioning Clever for his night action, but no one had voted for him.)

Vote Doom

[TA1LGUNN3R]

Vote Count

MoB Deadly:
dazza2008: 1 (jak)
spiesr:
everywhere116:
Victor Sullivan:
new guy1:
soundman:
Doom Yoshi: 4 (new guy, soundman, MoB, everywhere)
jak111:
NL:

With 9 alive it take 5 to lynch.

-Tails

[DoomYoshi]

From a townie's perspective clever was not totally down. However, the mafia knew he wasn't the doctor and that it would only be a matter of time before he was exposed.

The only other possibility is if one of the masons is scum, which seems unlikely.

[jak111]

From a townie's perspective clever was not totally down. However, the mafia knew he wasn't the doctor and that it would only be a matter of time before he was exposed.

The only other possibility is if one of the masons is scum, which seems unlikely.

Looks like Sully has to hammer you now though Doom >.<. I hope the town learns from this when another townie drops... Looks as if the scum not killing anyone last night worked to their advantage.

[new guy1]

When doom is hammered, I dont think there will be another night. Im guessing that he is scum, but thats just my assumption.

[dazza2008]

I will hammer. I never believed the claim to start with and I don't see his arguement that spiesr could be scum. There was no reason to out chap at all. Vote Doom

[Victor Sullivan]

Aw, I wanted the hammah slammah

-Sully