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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby everywhere116 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:02 pm

Subtext. Reading between the lines. Sometimes not presenting all the information to the town and making the discussion open is better. Crap.

Doom has already claimed to be blocked. We might as well wait for sound to get back with his night action choice.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Mar 26, 2012 11:36 pm

I chose to investigate spiesr last night. People mentioned that 4 investigative roles was too many and I agree. Now this is a ridiculous gambit, but I think that spiesr may have realized there was no cop and sold chapcrap in order to win the game. The reason being that 2 mafia were down, and a desperate action is needed. Now, I know I am probably going to get lynched tonight. However, when I flip town continue as you are. Remember when it is down to 3 of you to kill spiesr though.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby spiesr on Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:17 am

DoomYoshi wrote:I chose to investigate spiesr last night. People mentioned that 4 investigative roles was too many and I agree. Now this is a ridiculous gambit, but I think that spiesr may have realized there was no cop and sold chapcrap in order to win the game. The reason being that 2 mafia were down, and a desperate action is needed. Now, I know I am probably going to get lynched tonight. However, when I flip town continue as you are. Remember when it is down to 3 of you to kill spiesr though.
A quick rebuttal before I am done for the night. While the idea of me selling out chapcrap in an attempt to gain enough town credability to slide all the way to the end with a cop claim seems interesting and maybe plausible enough when taken soley as the idea, it doesn't really seem to work in context in my opinion. Let's look back, when was it that I started my case on Chapcrap (and hid my claimed result on him)? It was day 3. The exact timing is of some importance. It was before Mob made his claim ensuring SomethingClever would be the lynch for the day, yet after SomethingClever blundered enough to make his lynch a real possibility again. Two mafia were not down, one was and another had a claim that had been believed the day before, but was in the process of wandering down the road to self incrimination. Why would I choose that time to sellout Chapcrap? If what I wanted was credibility, couldn't I have picked some up from leading a lynch against SomethingClever? Having been one of the few people who wanted to lynch him during day 2 I think people would have accepted me doing so. Why would I sacrifice my partner who was not under any meaningful levels of suspicion when it would have been easier to toss the one who was on their way to talking them-self into a lynch and who I had a history of going against anyway? Look what ended up happening anyway. Mob counters SomethingClever and he is quickly lynched while my vote sits on Chapcrap as the only vote that anybody got around to casting before the bandwagon. Then Strike goes and night kills Clever, possibly picking up on the meaning behind my case against him. (Assuming that he knew his target was scum.)
Come on, if you want to make a case against me at least pick something better than that as your base. Like maybe the way I kinda wanted to lynch Soundman over Safariguy or something?

Also, if I "realized there was no cop" then what are you?
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby soundman on Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:54 am

Yes I did block Doom last night. I didn't want to say anything right off because I was hoping he's say he got investigation results. It was a long shot and even if he is mafia I think he's too experienced to fall into that trap. Oh well.

So anyway before I sent in my action I made up a list and checked my research after Jonty came up VT.
Here are all those left. Crossed out means I believe their claims:
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Dazza - Believe (But not enough to cross out)
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Doom
Jak - Believe (But not enough to cross out)

So I blocked Doom last night. Doesn't tell us much since the mafia didn't attempt a kill. (I'm going off the scene here, no struggle and no signs of a save). I had the thought that Doom could be telling the truth and in fact be a Flavor Cop. But he could be a MAFIA Flavor Cop. Victor has been really quiet and at this point in the game I don't think that's like him. Doing a little math, as long as there is only one mafia left then we can work our way through the list and come out on top even with a few mislynches. So I'm going to Vote Doom. If he's not mafia then we can take Victor tomorrow. Unless night actions come up with something else.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby new guy1 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:16 am

Well I am going to say that since Doom claimed flavor cop and claimed to investigate people who had either claimed/ were dead anyways, I found his claim faulty. So I will Vote Doomyoshi if I havent already. I will go back and look right now.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby new guy1 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:16 am

Scratch the post above I already voted!
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby MoB Deadly on Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:23 pm

Hm I didn't know I was still technically in this game, I just skimmed what happened since my last post. I was not PMed to submit an action last night and therefore missed it.

I believe soundman blocked the kill last night.

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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5]I will not lynch a towni

Postby jak111 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:27 pm

Hmm, well the problem I have is that I sort of believe Doom's claim and will not take part of this lynching, so my vote stays on Dazza.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby everywhere116 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:35 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:I chose to investigate spiesr last night. People mentioned that 4 investigative roles was too many and I agree. Now this is a ridiculous gambit, but I think that spiesr may have realized there was no cop and sold chapcrap in order to win the game. The reason being that 2 mafia were down, and a desperate action is needed. Now, I know I am probably going to get lynched tonight. However, when I flip town continue as you are. Remember when it is down to 3 of you to kill spiesr though.

The thought had crossed my mind. And it would explain why speisr got an innocent result on strike instead of the third party (only knowing who the scum were, not who the SK was.) But your scenario is factually incorrect. Speisr had no reason to sell out Chap, since not an iota of suspicion was placed on either of them at the time. There were not two mafia down, only one was down (people were questioning Clever for his night action, but no one had voted for him.)

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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:03 pm

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dazza2008: 1 (jak)
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everywhere116:
Victor Sullivan:
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:04 pm

From a townie's perspective clever was not totally down. However, the mafia knew he wasn't the doctor and that it would only be a matter of time before he was exposed.

The only other possibility is if one of the masons is scum, which seems unlikely.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby jak111 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:22 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:From a townie's perspective clever was not totally down. However, the mafia knew he wasn't the doctor and that it would only be a matter of time before he was exposed.

The only other possibility is if one of the masons is scum, which seems unlikely.


Looks like Sully has to hammer you now though Doom >.<. I hope the town learns from this when another townie drops... Looks as if the scum not killing anyone last night worked to their advantage.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby new guy1 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:29 pm

When doom is hammered, I dont think there will be another night. Im guessing that he is scum, but thats just my assumption.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby dazza2008 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:31 pm

I will hammer. I never believed the claim to start with and I don't see his arguement that spiesr could be scum. There was no reason to out chap at all. Vote Doom
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:45 pm

Aw, I wanted the hammah slammah :(

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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby new guy1 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:49 pm

:P Im sorry VS, maybe if you were more ACTIVE (jk) XD.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:06 pm

I was busy!! :(

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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby spiesr on Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:08 pm

Random question for you Sully, do you have to hammer yourself if you are at L-1? Also, what if if 2 people are at L-1, is it your choice of who to hammer or do you have to go with whomever got there first?
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby Victor Sullivan on Tue Mar 27, 2012 7:43 pm

I have a lot of leeway. I'd say yes (probably) to the first question and I can choose to the second.

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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby everywhere116 on Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:23 pm

I have to say one thing: If it was a fake claim (Wolfgang Puck being a flavor cop), it was brilliant.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby jak111 on Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:43 pm

Well since this is taking a while, anyone got a plan if Doom isn't mafia?
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby spiesr on Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:59 pm

jak111 wrote:Well since this is taking a while, anyone got a plan if Doom isn't mafia?
The best I can come up with is that Soundman blocks whomever he finds scummy, I investigate someone I haven't yet in the slim hope that there is actually anything that I can still find. Assuming that night actions don't turn up anything useful we then make cases against those who aren't semi-confirmed and then lynch whichever of those looks scummiest.
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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:09 pm

Panic.

Fear.

And most of all, anger.

Unexpectedly thwarted at every turn, the Kingpin had little recourse. All his plans had failed, all his minions had failed. But he was destined for the top! He had climbed from the bottom, and nothing would stop him!

He was now forced to use his own actions to try and complete his goals. He had to go out into the community and manipulate the townspeople. Suave and commanding, he told the people he was a cop, and that he would help them in their hunt. But soon, word reached the townspeople of bribes accepted, crimes overlooked, and other nefarious deeds of the comic supervillian.

And so here he was, trapped. Those persistent wretches howled for his death at the door, blood in their eyes. The door burst open, like a levee holding back too much water. All his plans for naught, his time was over, and he watched with grim acceptance his impending ruin.


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Doom Yoshi, The Kingpin, mafia GF, has been lynched. With no threats left, town prevails!

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I intended for spiesr to be an insane cop, kind of a bastard role. I hoped to create some extra discussion this way, because he would get some false results. The rapid death of the other two investigative roles made me think twice. I probably should have stuck to the insane cop seeing as how mafia went down so quickly.

I lol'd at ghostly. Major props to him, he had the entire scum faction pegged. If only he hadn't been so bullish about it, he might have lived to endgame.

When I was drawing up the game, I figured scum would be too powerful, but it appears that they got railed. I think Saf's early mistake in the fakeclaim really hurt them. I'll try harder next time to make fairer roles I guess.

Please, give me any input, thoughts, or criticisms so I can do better next time.

I must really thank all of you for a great game, even though mafia got routed. 70+ pages of discussion for my first modded game, and filled with lots of good discussion. I enjoyed this immensely.

So officially, Strike Wolf wins first place, town second, and mafia loses.

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Re: Hectic Eclectic Mafia (9/17)[D5] Auspicious Dawn

Postby everywhere116 on Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:15 pm

Hooray!

Also, did we just play the amalgamation of TV shows, books, and movies that you like?
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Re: H.E. Mafia, Game Over, Town Prevails. [archive plox]

Postby jak111 on Thu Mar 29, 2012 6:17 pm

Wow, the one guy of the uncleared list that I cleared in my mind...
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