PKMN Chap 2: Day 6(5/18)

[DoomYoshi]

@Doom I have two votes against me, not one.

Ok.

[shieldgenerator7]

this game is going slow

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Its a weekend and Easter weekend at that

[shieldgenerator7]

Vote Count
Haggis (1) - pcm
strike (1) - Fircoal
freezie (0) -
pmchugh (1) - zimmah
jonty (1) - , cm5, haggis
shield (1) - kratos,
nag (0) -
zimmah(3) - Victor, jonty, Clever
clever (0) -
edocsil (1) - pmchugh
Tails (0) - shield
Victor (1) - freezie

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.
Deadline is Friday the 13th.

Crazymilkshake has been asked to be replaced.

What? You're leaving us milkshake? Alright, have fun (but we'll miss you )

Anyway, this day is just dragging on, so I'll pressure someone. I must say I agree with the jonty case, it seems he has been popping up sporadically just to continue the pressure on zimmah. It seems to be a tactic to appear active without contributing much. UNVOTE VOTE JONTY I really don't like throwing my vote around... then again who am I kidding I love throwing my vote around

-SG7 ( )

[pmchugh]

unvote vote zimmah for refusing to answer my question. Why would it is it so hard to justify your actions? For this entire game.

[DoomYoshi]

Vote Count
Haggis (1) - pcm
strike (1) - Fircoal
freezie (0) -
pmchugh (1) - zimmah
jonty (3) - , cm5, haggis, shield
shield (1) - kratos,
nag (0) -
zimmah(3) - Victor, jonty, pmchugh
clever (0) -
edocsil (0) -
Tails (0) -
Victor (1) - freezie

With 18 alive, it takes 10 to lynch.
Deadline is Friday the 13th.

EDIT: There is quite a problem with inactivity and a lack of potential replacements. On Tuesday, I will fully assess the problem, but there may be a bit of a mod-culling to ensure the flow of the game. No active players will be killed, obviously. And I do understand that is Easter; I am referrring more to players who were prodded and still haven't said anything.

[pancakemix]

Vote PMC

Quit beating a dead fucking horse.

I've been silent for however long this has been going because the discussion was fucking boring. I don't want to watch an unstoppable force beat on an immovable object. It's lame, and if 10 pages of discussion aren't an indication, it's not going to get resolved. Everyone else has said "let's drop this", and few even saw it as a scumtell. Why are you choosing to bring up again that which no one wants to discuss.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

Vote PMC

Quit beating a dead fucking horse.

I've been silent for however long this has been going because the discussion was fucking boring. I don't want to watch an unstoppable force beat on an immovable object. It's lame, and if 10 pages of discussion aren't an indication, it's not going to get resolved. Everyone else has said "let's drop this", and few even saw it as a scumtell. Why are you choosing to bring up again that which no one wants to discuss.

well you being silent does absolutely nothing for us..instead of being silent why dont you say something to get the game moving ...that really makes me mad ..."oh im not gonna talk because you guys are just going back and forth" well why dont you say something that gets us off the subject cause if anyone had that mentality where would we be? *steps off soap box* sorry just had a mini rant

[nagerous]

No need to apologise something for expressing your views.

To be honest for the same reasons as pancake I have been quite quiet as this argument has been dull as dishwater.

I do think PMC ought to stop beating a dead horse as it is very tedious.

[zimmah]

unvote vote zimmah for refusing to answer my question. Why would it is it so hard to justify your actions? For this entire game.

omgus

[pancakemix]

Vote PMC

Quit beating a dead fucking horse.

I've been silent for however long this has been going because the discussion was fucking boring. I don't want to watch an unstoppable force beat on an immovable object. It's lame, and if 10 pages of discussion aren't an indication, it's not going to get resolved. Everyone else has said "let's drop this", and few even saw it as a scumtell. Why are you choosing to bring up again that which no one wants to discuss.

well you being silent does absolutely nothing for us..instead of being silent why dont you say something to get the game moving ...that really makes me mad ..."oh im not gonna talk because you guys are just going back and forth" well why dont you say something that gets us off the subject cause if anyone had that mentality where would we be? *steps off soap box* sorry just had a mini rant

I just now said something to get this to move on. Before that, it relies on something to actually draw from. I suppose I could have pulled that out at any time, but at this point PMC just seems to be dragging the case for no real reason after everyone has agreed this needs to stop.

Also, don't apologize for saying what you're thinking. Just say it. We're not judging you (until we think you're scum. Then we're very much judging you ).

[kratos644]

I've been gradually preparing this case and I think I'm finally ready to present it.

Why? Why is it remotely important that I keep the pressure on zimmah (every other play in the game seems to be doing a fair job of that) and why is it important to note that I did it?

Thought I had responded here already, perhaps the net ate my answer.

Anyhow, I have grave suspicions of zimmah at this point and if he flips scum you would be next on my list. Your action reduces pressure like I said, so I could easily see this as an attempt to protect a scumbuddy. SG7 is an easy d1 lynch if you decided to push it, and something I believe you would have no issue orchestrating to keep you hypothetical scumbuddy alive. However, none of this has any merit if zimmah is not scum, hence my only desiring the action to be noted, rather then calling you out for being scummy. If I were to die n1 and zimmah were to be scum I would want someone to be easily able to remember that moment.

Shield may be an easy lynch but zimmah is the easiest lynch. It is easy to agree with everyone, it is easy to pick out the flaws in his logic, it is easy to lynch the first guy who says something which doesn't quite add up, it is easy to blend in with the crowd.. it is difficult to change the focus and if you were his partner not only is it difficult but it is also risky.

Here you try to say look at me I'm trying to do something difficult and also if I were his mafia partner something that would be risky making it look like you're trying to pursue someone else but then you have a bunch of posts after this where instead of trying to further your "more difficult case" you continue to pressure zimmah but with your vote not officially on him.

unvote vote zimmah for refusing to answer my question. Why would it is it so hard to justify your actions? For this entire game.

Then you go back and put your vote where you intended for it to be the entire time while trying to make it appear that you were trying to make other cases instead of just taking the easy lynch.

Why were you willing to make a case when you had nothing but you are not willing to make a case when there are so many scummy people to choose from? If you are actually town then it should be easy to pick someone who is being scummy for the way they are pressuring you.

You're right and with how long you've been going on with this case you're appearing quite scummy yourself. At this point I feel you're just dragging this along to try and deter any real cases and as try for a no lynch/easy lynch on zimmah. So in light of this.

Unvote: Vote PMC

[Some7hingCLEVER]

I've been gradually preparing this case and I think I'm finally ready to present it.

Why? Why is it remotely important that I keep the pressure on zimmah (every other play in the game seems to be doing a fair job of that) and why is it important to note that I did it?

Thought I had responded here already, perhaps the net ate my answer.

Anyhow, I have grave suspicions of zimmah at this point and if he flips scum you would be next on my list. Your action reduces pressure like I said, so I could easily see this as an attempt to protect a scumbuddy. SG7 is an easy d1 lynch if you decided to push it, and something I believe you would have no issue orchestrating to keep you hypothetical scumbuddy alive. However, none of this has any merit if zimmah is not scum, hence my only desiring the action to be noted, rather then calling you out for being scummy. If I were to die n1 and zimmah were to be scum I would want someone to be easily able to remember that moment.

Shield may be an easy lynch but zimmah is the easiest lynch. It is easy to agree with everyone, it is easy to pick out the flaws in his logic, it is easy to lynch the first guy who says something which doesn't quite add up, it is easy to blend in with the crowd.. it is difficult to change the focus and if you were his partner not only is it difficult but it is also risky.

Here you try to say look at me I'm trying to do something difficult and also if I were his mafia partner something that would be risky making it look like you're trying to pursue someone else but then you have a bunch of posts after this where instead of trying to further your "more difficult case" you continue to pressure zimmah but with your vote not officially on him.

unvote vote zimmah for refusing to answer my question. Why would it is it so hard to justify your actions? For this entire game.

Then you go back and put your vote where you intended for it to be the entire time while trying to make it appear that you were trying to make other cases instead of just taking the easy lynch.

Why were you willing to make a case when you had nothing but you are not willing to make a case when there are so many scummy people to choose from? If you are actually town then it should be easy to pick someone who is being scummy for the way they are pressuring you.

You're right and with how long you've been going on with this case you're appearing quite scummy yourself. At this point I feel you're just dragging this along to try and deter any real cases and as try for a no lynch/easy lynch on zimmah. So in light of this.

Unvote: Vote PMC

i have a new found respect for you man lol finally someone does something to move the game along
unvote vote pmc for one this case is well thought out and is the best case today
two..because it has merit and we need some kind of pressure on him
three...because someone finally made another case

[pmchugh]

Lets be honest, anyone casting suspicion on me is doing so purely because they don't like what I am saying.. not because they actually think I am mafia. The one exception to this is clever, who seems to be rather confused on his views of this whole thing. The timing of his change from agreeing with me to disagreement is of particular interest, i.e. at the precise moment when people started to cast suspicion on me.

I've been gradually preparing this case and I think I'm finally ready to present it.

Why? Why is it remotely important that I keep the pressure on zimmah (every other play in the game seems to be doing a fair job of that) and why is it important to note that I did it?

Thought I had responded here already, perhaps the net ate my answer.

Anyhow, I have grave suspicions of zimmah at this point and if he flips scum you would be next on my list. Your action reduces pressure like I said, so I could easily see this as an attempt to protect a scumbuddy. SG7 is an easy d1 lynch if you decided to push it, and something I believe you would have no issue orchestrating to keep you hypothetical scumbuddy alive. However, none of this has any merit if zimmah is not scum, hence my only desiring the action to be noted, rather then calling you out for being scummy. If I were to die n1 and zimmah were to be scum I would want someone to be easily able to remember that moment.

Shield may be an easy lynch but zimmah is the easiest lynch. It is easy to agree with everyone, it is easy to pick out the flaws in his logic, it is easy to lynch the first guy who says something which doesn't quite add up, it is easy to blend in with the crowd.. it is difficult to change the focus and if you were his partner not only is it difficult but it is also risky.

Here you try to say look at me I'm trying to do something difficult and also if I were his mafia partner something that would be risky making it look like you're trying to pursue someone else but then you have a bunch of posts after this where instead of trying to further your "more difficult case" you continue to pressure zimmah but with your vote not officially on him.

unvote vote zimmah for refusing to answer my question. Why would it is it so hard to justify your actions? For this entire game.

Then you go back and put your vote where you intended for it to be the entire time while trying to make it appear that you were trying to make other cases instead of just taking the easy lynch.

Why were you willing to make a case when you had nothing but you are not willing to make a case when there are so many scummy people to choose from? If you are actually town then it should be easy to pick someone who is being scummy for the way they are pressuring you.

You're right and with how long you've been going on with this case you're appearing quite scummy yourself. At this point I feel you're just dragging this along to try and deter any real cases and as try for a no lynch/easy lynch on zimmah. So in light of this.

Unvote: Vote PMC

Your argument finds its basis in me "doing the easy thing" while attempting to appear like I am properly scumhunting. The problem with your argument is that for almost this entire thread I have been against the popular opinion. I was against the Zimmah lynch when people were on it and as interest fell on Zimmah I took over. This is precisely the opposite of the point I made about trying to do the easy thing. Now you could argue that by going against the grain I was pushing for a NL but to me that honestly seems like a really bad scum tactic especially on day 1 in a game that I would presume has multiple factions and where I myself have a very low chance of being lynched.

The real purpose of going against main stream opinion is that you see peoples reactions much more clearly.

[strike wolf]

Sorry limited access over the weekend. Will be caught up and reread by tomorrow.