Alphabet Mafia 2Day 6 no night deaths

[thehippo8]

Confirming cult really doesn't help us much for now in terms of setting up cases, at least for now.

Sorry Sam, it may just be me, but I didn't understand what this meant! Are you claiming cult?

[samgrossy]

well crap that cofirms the definate existance of a cult

Hippo - this is what I am talking about. Confirming the existence of a cult is great and all, but it doesn't get us any closer to a case.

[thehippo8]

well crap that cofirms the definate existance of a cult

Hippo - this is what I am talking about. Confirming the existence of a cult is great and all, but it doesn't get us any closer to a case.

Oh! Lol, I read that but didn't get what you were saying? Never mind, but I agree that a closer reading of the thread will help us all!

[aage]

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch

LyLo, great.

Hmh, so we don't know what roles cult had prior to recruitment?

Apparently not.

well crap that cofirms the definate existance of a cult

We already knew there was one..

well crap that cofirms the definate existance of a cult

Hippo - this is what I am talking about. Confirming the existence of a cult is great and all, but it doesn't get us any closer to a case.

Oh! Lol, I read that but didn't get what you were saying? Never mind, but I agree that a closer reading of the thread will help us all!

Let's just go through the player list. Sorry if I give more attention to some player than others, I have limited time to play the game and it's harder for me to get a read on players I'm less familiar with, especially if they post twice a month.

2. Aage - well, me.

4. Nagerous - absent, or at least as far as I'm even aware that Nag is even playing at all. I know you have a full time job but I would appreciate it if you would at least try to make a post this round.

5. Strike Wolf replaced by Hippo 2.0 day 4 - Meh. I dislike dead people replacing, and I detest the idea of investigative roles replacing, but it'll have to work. LSU knows what he's doing. I do suspect that Hippo/SW is either scum or cult member, since he didn't start the day off with OMGUS'ing people who were involved in his death (which would be easily tracked back to myself). I sense caution in his two posts which is strange.

7. Edocsil - same story as Nag, but with the occasional post. I don't like the scumarining. During the first days the reputation of both of you protected you from getting lynched, and now we don't have the game time to extend a discipline vote. I have the feeling he's looking at the game from a distance while he isn't involved himself, and it returns in every one of his posts. I would expect Edoc to be capable of some psychological warfare, and pretend he's not really playing, thus surviving every day and night. Still, I by principle distrust Edoc, so I would ask other players to share because I know I can't trust my own read on him.

8. Safariguy5 - if I read the posts by our busdriver and insane cop correctly, Saf is 100% scum. This of course depends on whether DJ is in fact a town busdriver and not a mafia busdriver messing with us to win the game. vote safariguy. Also a serious FoS on the previous posters who didn't even spend a letter on this, while it is the biggest lead we have.

11. SamGrossy - claimed roleblocker. Got Hippo version 1 lynched by claiming. What bugs me is that with 2 cops and a doctor, the odds of mafia having a roleblocker are high.

12. redhedge47 - absolute scumarine. Doesn't even seem interested in the game, since "all" his posts (at least, the ones I've been looking at the past fifteen minutes) are one sentence long.

14. ShaggyDan - I think I would trust Shaggy to be town most of all other players in the game. Part of it is gut feeling. Another part of it is that even though he isn't around too often, his posts show that he knows his stuff. (As opposed to redhedge's "lynch all liars vote jonty"-kind of posts.)

15. DJFireside - claimed busdriver. Not much to say. Since there are only town people dead (and one cultist, but he was town beforehand) we can't specifically speculate about what kind of roles the mafia has, but since this seems to be an NV game scum has some roles too. Busdriver is on that list, right next to roleblocker. Also (conveniently?) claimed a day late to see Hippo (town tracker) get lynched, and ensure the lynch of an insane cop. Then again, I supported the case at that moment as well, so for me there is no direct reason why that could be scummy.

16. Lord Voldemort - not getting a read on him. His contribution, no offence, is absolutely zero. As far as I can remember, I haven't played with him before extensively. If he is scum, I don't think he would be our priority target.


The problem is I'm getting scumtells on every one of you because every one of you could change alignment every night. The second problem is that Vodean could have been the cultist. (If he is... LSU, screw you.)

[nagerous]

Thanks for the summary aage, I know I've been inactive in this and for that I can only apologise.

My understanding of the situation, is as you so rightly summarised jonty was an insane cop that got a town read of safari, after a bit of bus driving shenanigans came into play as well.

Hence we lynch safari as he is definite scum no?

I would like to hear from him though before I place my vote.

[safariguy5]

I'm not scum, I'm Mr. P the rolecop.

I know what roles aage and strike/hippo are (the other people are all dead), but I'm concerned revealing them would set them up as prime targets for cult recruitment because then cult would have a lower chance of hitting mafia.

I'm perfectly willing to reveal them if that is the wishes of everyone, but I'm a bit concerned about cult recruitment.

[aage]

I'm not scum, I'm Mr. P the rolecop.

I know what roles aage and strike/hippo are (the other people are all dead), but I'm concerned revealing them would set them up as prime targets for cult recruitment because then cult would have a lower chance of hitting mafia.

I'm perfectly willing to reveal them if that is the wishes of everyone, but I'm a bit concerned about cult recruitment.

So there's three cops in this game according to you? And you don't even bother to mention that, since you claim to be town, DJ Fireside must be lying? vote stays.

[aage]

I'm not scum, I'm Mr. P the rolecop.

I know what roles aage and strike/hippo are (the other people are all dead), but I'm concerned revealing them would set them up as prime targets for cult recruitment because then cult would have a lower chance of hitting mafia.

I'm perfectly willing to reveal them if that is the wishes of everyone, but I'm a bit concerned about cult recruitment.

So there's three cops in this game according to you? And you don't even bother to mention that, since you claim to be town, DJ Fireside must be lying? vote stays.

And I might add to that that by making this post, if you were town cop you have just set up Strike/Hippo and me up as recruitment targets anyway?

[samgrossy]

I'm not scum, I'm Mr. P the rolecop.

I know what roles aage and strike/hippo are (the other people are all dead), but I'm concerned revealing them would set them up as prime targets for cult recruitment because then cult would have a lower chance of hitting mafia.

I'm perfectly willing to reveal them if that is the wishes of everyone, but I'm a bit concerned about cult recruitment.

Why are you claiming when you only have on person voting you. This seems suspicious to me. I'm not sure if its scummy or not, but it just doesn't seem like a very good idea.

[safariguy5]

I'm not scum, I'm Mr. P the rolecop.

I know what roles aage and strike/hippo are (the other people are all dead), but I'm concerned revealing them would set them up as prime targets for cult recruitment because then cult would have a lower chance of hitting mafia.

I'm perfectly willing to reveal them if that is the wishes of everyone, but I'm a bit concerned about cult recruitment.

Why are you claiming when you only have on person voting you. This seems suspicious to me. I'm not sure if its scummy or not, but it just doesn't seem like a very good idea.

I'm claiming because the insane cop got an innocent result on me which is basically like a sane cop getting a guilty result on me.

What's interesting here is that aage says that his vote stays because DJ is lying. But not 1-2 pages ago, it was brought up that busdriver could be either mafia or town aligned. So aage just automatically assumes the busdriver is town despite no other person actually confirming alignment. Could be aage got recruited to cult and he's afraid he's going to have to make up some night actions because he lost his actual powers.

[aage]

I'm not scum, I'm Mr. P the rolecop.

I know what roles aage and strike/hippo are (the other people are all dead), but I'm concerned revealing them would set them up as prime targets for cult recruitment because then cult would have a lower chance of hitting mafia.

I'm perfectly willing to reveal them if that is the wishes of everyone, but I'm a bit concerned about cult recruitment.

Why are you claiming when you only have on person voting you. This seems suspicious to me. I'm not sure if its scummy or not, but it just doesn't seem like a very good idea.

I'm claiming because the insane cop got an innocent result on me which is basically like a sane cop getting a guilty result on me.

What's interesting here is that aage says that his vote stays because DJ is lying. But not 1-2 pages ago, it was brought up that busdriver could be either mafia or town aligned. So aage just automatically assumes the busdriver is town despite no other person actually confirming alignment. Could be aage got recruited to cult and he's afraid he's going to have to make up some night actions because he lost his actual powers.

My problem is not that DJ could be mafia. My problem is that your defense is so poorly constructed that you don't even care to mention that DJ has to be scum for you to be telling the truth. Nice try twisting my words. Also nice try at diverting attention towards me as a possible cult recruit (which is, let's be honest, the least of our concerns right now) while there has been a cop claim against you which I have nothing to do with. I hope that whoever is left of town still has their senses about them.

[safariguy5]

I'm not scum, I'm Mr. P the rolecop.

I know what roles aage and strike/hippo are (the other people are all dead), but I'm concerned revealing them would set them up as prime targets for cult recruitment because then cult would have a lower chance of hitting mafia.

I'm perfectly willing to reveal them if that is the wishes of everyone, but I'm a bit concerned about cult recruitment.

Why are you claiming when you only have on person voting you. This seems suspicious to me. I'm not sure if its scummy or not, but it just doesn't seem like a very good idea.

I'm claiming because the insane cop got an innocent result on me which is basically like a sane cop getting a guilty result on me.

What's interesting here is that aage says that his vote stays because DJ is lying. But not 1-2 pages ago, it was brought up that busdriver could be either mafia or town aligned. So aage just automatically assumes the busdriver is town despite no other person actually confirming alignment. Could be aage got recruited to cult and he's afraid he's going to have to make up some night actions because he lost his actual powers.

My problem is not that DJ could be mafia. My problem is that your defense is so poorly constructed that you don't even care to mention that DJ has to be scum for you to be telling the truth. Nice try twisting my words. Also nice try at diverting attention towards me as a possible cult recruit (which is, let's be honest, the least of our concerns right now) while there has been a cop claim against you which I have nothing to do with. I hope that whoever is left of town still has their senses about them.

So is this your way of saying I should reveal your and strike's roles? Because I'm totally willing to do it.

Speaking of your theory as to why there cannot be 3 cops, remember that we had an SKer, cult, AND Mafia in this game. Even if one cop is insane, we need all the help we can get because a cop has a higher chance of being targeted by an anti town role.

[redhedge47]

lets hear it you clearly dont have any guilty results you would have already told us claiming with one vote is fairly scummy if you ask me
Vote Safari

[samgrossy]

The only reason that I think we should be careful here is because a bus driver can screw up any of the claims people are making. If there is more than bus driver it likely many things are screwed up. Claims could get ugly and cases could get confusing.

All that said, I think (for the reasons aage mention directly above) safari seems guilty. So if this makes any sense

VOTE SAFARI, but hoping he doesn't confuse things all the hell.

[samgrossy]

lets hear it you clearly dont have any guilty results you would have already told us claiming with one vote is fairly scummy if you ask me
Vote Safari

This adds to the summary that aage put out. You would think that if someone comes out and calls you a scummariner, you would make a better effort to make a longer post than just one line.

FoS REDHEDGE

[edocsil]

lets hear it you clearly dont have any guilty results you would have already told us claiming with one vote is fairly scummy if you ask me
Vote Safari

You're an idiot. Google role cop.

As for others, yes I have been very quiet this game. I tend to do so when there is a cult around. So here is our issue. Lylo to cult by all odds. I think scum can be recruited, so the odds of lylo/vs one roleblock are not good for us. However, I don't think there is much of a chance that scum HAVE been recruited yet.

But you say *gasp* Edoc you wizard, how could you know such things. Here is how. No scum lynches yet. If a cult failed to recruit and the cult won't suicide on scum recruit then they would just out the scum due to failed recruit, this hasn't happened yet. Other option is that scum get recruited and they just out their old allies to the Cult and it's gg scum. This hasn't happened either, so no scum can be know by the cult. PR's or other rules could limit the cult's knowledge of scum, but there is no way to stop people from communicating in other ways without directly breaking the rules.

So here is the story. Right now town is fucked. Cult has huge numbers, and the CL must die today, or failing that a Goon killed, and then you pray the scum save our asses in the night. The irony of things is that even if the entire scum faction claimed we couldn't kill them, not for fear of lylo to the cult. What we need to do is find out who has lost their night actions to recruits, not run after people who are quite likely telling the truth. Flavor cops are fucking hard to fake, and if you are right, he will just claim his results to f*ck the town. Beyond that a flavor cop could ID FUCKING CULT. You are blindly ignoring the real threat (or are the threat in red's case, I'm certain he is a cult goon) and chasing after a scum/townie and that should be blindingly obvious to you all.

Mass claim time, CL has to die fast otherwise the scum will over run us in a day or two depending on how many there are of them, and we will need the cultist who have hopefully returned to their old faction/survivor to end this in the towns favor.

BU doc MR. V
n2 Strike
n3 aage
n4 strike/hippo limbo << might not have been the best idea

So here is how it stands. Right now I think Hippo V2 or aage is the CL, but I want to review my lists of night actions before I make a final call. I think this for 1 reason primarily. Others are largely following their lead. See the current wagon, and the wagon of yesterday.

Anyhow, find the CL, else we lose. I'll post more later in this day once I have a place to put my vote.

[aage]

So here is how it stands. Right now I think Hippo V2 or aage is the CL, but I want to review my lists of night actions before I make a final call. I think this for 1 reason primarily. Others are largely following their lead. See the current wagon, and the wagon of yesterday.

I had you down for CL, actually. Hippo v2 seems unlikely because Geegel has been so inactive, but since Safari claims to know both my and Hippo's role, I doubt one of us is the cult leader. He could have mentioned that without any fear of recruitment, I think. The reason I suspect you is because you're still alive and trying to draw attention to the cult. Only the CL knows how many recruits there are (I think). In your post you mention they're masoned... Why would that be? Normal cult doesn't have that, afaik. Would make it ultra overpowered anyway.

You say we should keep Safari alive. I'd be very interested in my role. I wonder what Safari has to say about it. A breakdown of his night actions would be nice. Since we can't trust approximately 90% of the players, it's worth a shot.

Sam is also still in the back of my head as CL. Roleblocker is a good fake claim since it actually is what you do. Still I'll unvote and see what Saf has to say. Since Hippo is probably a cult recruit I think you can safely out our roles.

[thehippo8]

Well, I am caught up. I firstly have to apologise to LSU - in my previous incarnation I dithered about not keeping attention and calling the game dull. I was wrong to dither and I am certainly wrong about it being dull - ain't anything but!

Anyway, that aside, let me first say that I do not believe that Saf can be a rolecop. I seriously doubt there would be two of those! Maybe Saf has some sort of espionage skill that let's him tap into the rolecop's results but that just makes me laugh. To prove I am right, Aage, let me do this in stages. Please answer the questions (which I will drip feed) exactly.

Question: Aage - did you go near Sam on night 3?

[aage]

Well, I am caught up. I firstly have to apologise to LSU - in my previous incarnation I dithered about not keeping attention and calling the game dull. I was wrong to dither and I am certainly wrong about it being dull - ain't anything but!

Anyway, that aside, let me first say that I do not believe that Saf can be a rolecop. I seriously doubt there would be two of those! Maybe Saf has some sort of espionage skill that let's him tap into the rolecop's results but that just makes me laugh. To prove I am right, Aage, let me do this in stages. Please answer the questions (which I will drip feed) exactly.

Question: Aage - did you go near Sam on night 3?

Yeah. But there hasn't been another rolecop, fyi, just a regular cop.

[thehippo8]

Well, I am caught up. I firstly have to apologise to LSU - in my previous incarnation I dithered about not keeping attention and calling the game dull. I was wrong to dither and I am certainly wrong about it being dull - ain't anything but!

Anyway, that aside, let me first say that I do not believe that Saf can be a rolecop. I seriously doubt there would be two of those! Maybe Saf has some sort of espionage skill that let's him tap into the rolecop's results but that just makes me laugh. To prove I am right, Aage, let me do this in stages. Please answer the questions (which I will drip feed) exactly.

Question: Aage - did you go near Sam on night 3?

Yeah. But there hasn't been another rolecop, fyi, just a regular cop.

You missed this ...

I'm not scum, I'm Mr. P the rolecop.

I know what roles aage and strike/hippo are (the other people are all dead), but I'm concerned revealing them would set them up as prime targets for cult recruitment because then cult would have a lower chance of hitting mafia.

I'm perfectly willing to reveal them if that is the wishes of everyone, but I'm a bit concerned about cult recruitment.

... hence my questions.

So you visited Sam night 3.

Next question for Aage: Did you protect Sam?

[aage]

Well, I am caught up. I firstly have to apologise to LSU - in my previous incarnation I dithered about not keeping attention and calling the game dull. I was wrong to dither and I am certainly wrong about it being dull - ain't anything but!

Anyway, that aside, let me first say that I do not believe that Saf can be a rolecop. I seriously doubt there would be two of those! Maybe Saf has some sort of espionage skill that let's him tap into the rolecop's results but that just makes me laugh. To prove I am right, Aage, let me do this in stages. Please answer the questions (which I will drip feed) exactly.

Question: Aage - did you go near Sam on night 3?

Yeah. But there hasn't been another rolecop, fyi, just a regular cop.

You missed this ...

I'm not scum, I'm Mr. P the rolecop.

I know what roles aage and strike/hippo are (the other people are all dead), but I'm concerned revealing them would set them up as prime targets for cult recruitment because then cult would have a lower chance of hitting mafia.

I'm perfectly willing to reveal them if that is the wishes of everyone, but I'm a bit concerned about cult recruitment.

... hence my questions.

So you visited Sam night 3.

Next question for Aage: Did you protect Sam?

Yeah. But Safariguy is the only rolecop that I'm aware of. Are you claiming to be a rolecop?

[thehippo8]

It is possible but highly unlikely that Saf is also a rolecop. But before continuing with that, one more question.

Third Question: Did you use an additional power while you protected Sam?

As you consider this question, ask yourself ... how can thehippo know this without knowing my role? I don't want to state your role right now as that does not serve this purpose. But the point of these question is to have you reconsider Saf's declaration that he is a role cop.

As I said, I find that very hard to believe.

Following from there the inevitable question is ... who and what really is he? And is that a mystery that is so easily resolved without him being lynched?

Again, I await your answer to the main question above before pondering this further.

[redhedge47]

lets hear it you clearly dont have any guilty results you would have already told us claiming with one vote is fairly scummy if you ask me
Vote Safari

This adds to the summary that aage put out. You would think that if someone comes out and calls you a scummariner, you would make a better effort to make a longer post than just one line.

FoS REDHEDGE

well one its two lines also He has already had a decent case made against him how come its okay for aage to point the fos & when I agree its all of the sudden the most scummy thing on the planet. I ould go onto a 4 or 5 line long rant where im just recirculating what I just sad but that woould be a complete waste of time

[aage]

It is possible but highly unlikely that Saf is also a rolecop. But before continuing with that, one more question.

Third Question: Did you use an additional power while you protected Sam?

As you consider this question, ask yourself ... how can thehippo know this without knowing my role? I don't want to state your role right now as that does not serve this purpose. But the point of these question is to have you reconsider Saf's declaration that he is a role cop.

As I said, I find that very hard to believe.

Following from there the inevitable question is ... who and what really is he? And is that a mystery that is so easily resolved without him being lynched?

Again, I await your answer to the main question above before pondering this further.

I'm not sure if I want to answer that question right now. Lots of people still have to vote, we need to get people to add their night actions to their claims, there's a rolecop on the loose who claims to know my role and the cylt leader is probably still alive. Maybe you should look back at night 1 for an answer.

[aage]

It is possible but highly unlikely that Saf is also a rolecop. But before continuing with that, one more question.

Third Question: Did you use an additional power while you protected Sam?

As you consider this question, ask yourself ... how can thehippo know this without knowing my role? I don't want to state your role right now as that does not serve this purpose. But the point of these question is to have you reconsider Saf's declaration that he is a role cop.

As I said, I find that very hard to believe.

Following from there the inevitable question is ... who and what really is he? And is that a mystery that is so easily resolved without him being lynched?

Again, I await your answer to the main question above before pondering this further.

I'm not sure if I want to answer that question right now. Lots of people still have to vote, we need to get people to add their night actions to their claims, there's a rolecop on the loose who claims to know my role and the cylt leader is probably still alive. Maybe you should look back at night 1 for an answer.

Obviously I meant "post".