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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby DoomYoshi on Thu Dec 13, 2012 9:20 am

unvote

I would argue that I am not 100% cleared though. The mafia may have a busdrive, and I could be a godfather. However, that list of three makes sense to me, so I don't need to be on the wagon.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby jonty125 on Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:40 am

vote rishaed seems like scum in his last few posts, and for wagon analytics.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby Rodion on Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:03 pm

The one thing I managed to research about the doc switch was that he could "flip" the switch at nights. However, the setup had both a mafia doc switch and a SK doc switch, meaning that if both decided to turn the doctor off, the doctor would be on (2 negatives = positive). This game, however, seems pretty maniqueist to have a SK. My assumption is that mafia could turn the doctor off and nulify him as long as Vodean lived.

I obviously don't know much about doc switchs as I had never seen one. If anyone has any knowledge on this role, feel free to elucidate us.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby gregwolf121 on Thu Dec 13, 2012 12:57 pm

Rodion wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:Night 1: Sully- Innocent
Night 2: Com9- Innocent
Night 3: VioIet- Innocent
Night 4: Soundman- Guilty


No interference from Strike Nights 1 and 2 means Sully and Commander are cleared.

I don't think you've claimed your N3 actions, though, Strike? I'm guessing whatever it is you did had nothing to do with Violet? Can we clear her as well? I'll assume we can, but let me know.

gregwolf (12) ~ Saf, jonty, soundman, violet, aage, JG, Nag, DRoZ, jak, ??? (regardless of whether ??? was Jak or Victor), Strike, Vodean

Means we have 3 anti-town out of the following 6:

Saf, Jonty, Soundman, Aage, Droz, Strike

I'd suggest Aage, Jonty and Droz for the killing Rishaed wagon.

Rishaed, who would you suggest?


Just for the Record i would exclude Saf from the list, i agree that it is still possible that he is scum, but it is highly unlikely, and it narrows down the anti-town to 3 of 5
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby VioIet on Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:02 pm

DRoZ wrote:
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rishaed wrote:N1: Iliad
N2: Vodean
N3: Mr. squirrel
N4: Strike
That have been my night actions so far in this game N1&N2 were CM5 and I was rushing to send in my action N3 b/c of flight back to states.
N4 Strike seemed to have a pretty good spotlight on him and since I figured Scum would go after someone close, but not directly in the limelight i doc'd him.


I wonder if Droz would be able to prove or disprove any of this.


I can't really prove/disprove much of that, although I did watch CM5 on night one and can confirm nothing happened to him.


If you watched CMS, who I assume is crazymilkshake, on Night 1 then you should have seen rishaed visit him. That is what I'm asking!!!! I don't know how you didn't understand that, or why you still seem to refuse to give us the information we need. I was on your side, but now I'm starting to get suspicious of you as well.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I you watch someone- doesn't that mean that the mod gives you the name of whoever visited that player? Whenever I've been watcher in a game, I was always given the name of whoever visited my target, if anyone did. If no one visited, the mod said, "No one visited X."

I don't understand why Droz would give such a lax response, such as, "I can't really prove/disprove much of that." Either you watched some of those targets- so you can prove/disprove, or you didn't watch anyone of them, so you can't prove/disprove. You give an answer down the middle, which can't work.

If I was a watcher, and I had watched CMS, I could say whether someone had visited him or didn't visit him.

Also, rishaed says that he healed Illiad on Night 1 and Vodean on Night 2 (awful choice). But then why did he say he visited CMS on Nights 1 and 2? That doesn't make sense!

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I don't think you've claimed your N3 actions, though, Strike? I'm guessing whatever it is you did had nothing to do with Violet? Can we clear her as well? I'll assume we can, but let me know.



I claimed my role on Day 2. I am pretty sure that is why safari investigated me by Night 3. But I I would be pretty interested in hearing what strike has to say about Night 3. I think me being officially cleared once and for all would show the validity of the human-saint type roles. They are on the same side of the angels.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby DRoZ on Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:02 pm

Rish replaced cm5, they are the same character, not two different people. I believe that is what is causing your confusion.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby NoSurvivors on Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:12 pm

shouldn't strike or soundman be on that wagon also, since theyre the ones who's being tested right now? o.O (i suggest strike since he was the "cop").
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby rishaed on Thu Dec 13, 2012 4:58 pm

NoSurvivors wrote:shouldn't strike or soundman be on that wagon also, since theyre the ones who's being tested right now? o.O (i suggest strike since he was the "cop").

Strike was busdriver not "cop", thus me being lynched ya know? And technically speaking its a fair analysis of a good wagon here.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby aage on Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:15 pm

rishaed wrote:
NoSurvivors wrote:shouldn't strike or soundman be on that wagon also, since theyre the ones who's being tested right now? o.O (i suggest strike since he was the "cop").

Strike was busdriver not "cop", thus me being lynched ya know? And technically speaking its a fair analysis of a good wagon here.

Wait, so you're perfectly okay with us lynching you today?
F*ck my paranoia. unvote
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby rishaed on Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:19 pm

^Of course I'm not okay with you guys lynching me today, I mean why would I? Each one of us has an inherent desire to survive, even if its a game you know. I'm just resigned to my fate in this game.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby Rodion on Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:58 pm

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rishaed wrote:
NoSurvivors wrote:shouldn't strike or soundman be on that wagon also, since theyre the ones who's being tested right now? o.O (i suggest strike since he was the "cop").

Strike was busdriver not "cop", thus me being lynched ya know? And technically speaking its a fair analysis of a good wagon here.

Wait, so you're perfectly okay with us lynching you today?
F*ck my paranoia. unvote


Why the unvote? I do not understand.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby NoSurvivors on Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:48 pm

Rodion wrote:
aage wrote:
rishaed wrote:
NoSurvivors wrote:shouldn't strike or soundman be on that wagon also, since theyre the ones who's being tested right now? o.O (i suggest strike since he was the "cop").

Strike was busdriver not "cop", thus me being lynched ya know? And technically speaking its a fair analysis of a good wagon here.

Wait, so you're perfectly okay with us lynching you today?
F*ck my paranoia. unvote


Why the unvote? I do not understand.


Possible sarcasm with it not being red? idk xD. Also, oops... but still, strike would make a pretty decent wagoner..
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby NoSurvivors on Thu Dec 13, 2012 8:49 pm

Forgot how that ended up working.. too lazy to go back 3 pages :lol:
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby safariguy5 on Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:14 pm

I will say, that rereading my WC, it does seem like humans can be recruited by anti town forces. Could be Demons, or could be something else. So it's possible that any human role can be recruited. Still, even if you were recruited Vio, I personally don't need to kill the corrupted humans, I just need to kill all the demons. And I understand that I have a powerful role, but 3 straight innocent results followed by a guilty to me meant I should be probably reveal what information I have now lest I be killed off and that information lost.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby strike wolf on Thu Dec 13, 2012 10:19 pm

I certainly don't have any personal objections to being on the wagon, in fact if somehow my action didn't go through or there's some other factor that has caused what we know to be wrong leading Rishaed to actually be town, it would be good to be proven town by chap's results and I have nothing to hide however that seems unlikely to me and if Rishaed is scum than it's agreed (at least by a couple people) that I am most likely town anyways and me being cleared by chap's investigation would be just a bit redundant. I believe that Rodion's list is good as even though I am leaning town for Droz, those three are in doubt.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby Rodion on Fri Dec 14, 2012 12:46 am

Everybody is getting investigated, somewhat.

We've established that 3 out of 6 are anti-town. By testing any 3 of them and finding out, for instance, that 2 of them are anti-town, it also means the other group of 3 has 1 anti-town. I just made the list of players I considered most scummy, because getting "3" as an answer (or "0") is better than getting 1 or 2.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby VioIet on Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:38 am

DRoZ wrote:Rish replaced cm5, they are the same character, not two different people. I believe that is what is causing your confusion.


Yes, it was definitely causing my confusion. My apologies Droz.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby NoSurvivors on Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:56 am

Well geez and here I came to apologize for being inactive this weekend.. Guess everyone was busy xD
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby Rodion on Mon Dec 17, 2012 1:58 am

Would like to see a vote count and a reason on why Aage unvoted.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby jonty125 on Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:36 am

Rodion wrote:Would like to see a vote count and a reason on why Aage unvoted.


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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby NoSurvivors on Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:04 am

I'd like to see a vote count too. I cant remember if I had voted but I wasn't on the list so.. unvote
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby edocsil on Mon Dec 17, 2012 2:29 pm

Pardon for my infrequent counts. It is finals week, and life is insanely busy. I'll have time for a VC this evening, deadline will be extended to sunday, traveling with family back home till then + finals.
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Postby pancakemix on Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:36 am

Unvote for wagon analytics.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:47 am

edocsil wrote:Pardon for my infrequent counts. It is finals week, and life is insanely busy. I'll have time for a VC this evening, deadline will be extended to sunday, traveling with family back home till then + finals.


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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D5 19/25

Postby edocsil on Tue Dec 18, 2012 4:30 pm

Vote Count

Rishaed (4) ~ Jonty, Soundman, aage, Safari
Soundman (2) ~ Violet, Iliad

Most votes were unvoted recently. Unofficially I believe rishaed was l-3/4 at one point or another. Deadline should be still good for Sunday. Next exam is in 45 minutes :!:
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