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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby Rodion on Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:03 pm

Fifth, do you realize you are not counterclaiming me? I'm Raguel and you claimed Raphael. I don't understand why you'd think I claimed Raphael when I have mentioned I thought /'s role was Raphael.

The only counterclaim here is the fact we have 4 claimed angels while flavour suggests there should only be 3. /'s role description matches exactly what I've been told (a protective role that can die while protecting), so that leaves Saf and you, Fifth, as the possible liars. With the night scene flavour on your side, it now looks like Saf is the liar. Not going to do any voting for now as I need to gather my thoughts. Besides, we've got a lot to talk about still (the rest of Strike's actions, for instance). I'll ask that you unvote while we discuss as I'm apparently L-2 and we have a doublevoter.

As far as actual lying goes, the only person that apparently got caught lying is Violet, saying her saint is alive when she died in 1510.

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Rodion wrote:Cool. Something that worries me is that we only have evidence of 1 townie getting a gift from you all game long after 8 nights. Mind making a full claim?


Can't be exact (don't know what nights), but I'm positive that I've gifted Violet, Jak (the first), Doom, Droz, Chap, F1fth (as he claims), and you. Mainly cops and docs.


Me? At which night exactly?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby Rodion on Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:05 pm

pancakemix wrote:
Rodion wrote:Cool. Something that worries me is that we only have evidence of 1 townie getting a gift from you all game long after 8 nights. Mind making a full claim?


Can't be exact (don't know what nights), but I'm positive that I've gifted Violet, Jak (the first), Doom, Droz, Chap, F1fth (as he claims), and you. Mainly cops and docs.


Also, did you gift Doom the night before he got lynched (as he claimed)?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby F1fth on Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:23 pm

Don't know how I misread that. I guess my mind saw what it was looking for.

Unvote while we re-evaluate.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby Rodion on Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:24 pm

Saf shouldn't be a demon if / got flavour when he protected him. That would mean mafia tried to kill him. I'm confused.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby F1fth on Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:33 pm

Rodion wrote:Saf shouldn't be a demon if / got flavour when he protected him. That would mean mafia tried to kill him. I'm confused.

Busdrive redirected back to Saf?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby F1fth on Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:37 pm

EBWOP: Damn, I should have asked Strike his action before saying that. I shouldn't post when I'm sick I'm not thinking straight.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby Rodion on Sat Mar 23, 2013 5:48 pm

The same busdrive that redirects the kill redirects the protection, so no.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby / on Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:15 am

Unvote, lots of new info coming out...

pancakemix wrote:
Rodion wrote:Cool. Something that worries me is that we only have evidence of 1 townie getting a gift from you all game long after 8 nights. Mind making a full claim?


Can't be exact (don't know what nights), but I'm positive that I've gifted Violet, Jak (the first), Doom, Droz, Chap, F1fth (as he claims), and you. Mainly cops and docs.


Could everyone listed here please confirm if they did or did not receive a gift please?

Also where the heck did the front page go?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby VioIet on Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:00 am

Rodion wrote:
As far as actual lying goes, the only person that apparently got caught lying is Violet, saying her saint is alive when she died in 1510.


Lol, you are really grasping for straws here Rodion. It's 2013, so technically every character is dead or immortal in some way or the other.

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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby / on Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:20 am

We can't afford to rush a lynch this late in the game, please withhold your votes for a while longer everyone.
We still need to answer a few questions.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby edocsil on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:03 am

Alrighty, hold the phone here. PCM just deleted the OP by mistake. A few things, one there will be a scene, two I need to go get the OP back in order, three please refrain from posting until the scene, I need to clarify a rule do some vote counts and the like. Game should be back on in an hour or two.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby edocsil on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:09 am

Vote Count

Rodion (4) ~ VioIet strike wolf, Jak, ???
Strike (1) ~ Safariguy
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - D9 8/25

Postby edocsil on Sun Mar 24, 2013 11:40 am

Mammon wore a wicked grin. He had a card left in his sleeve ready to play today. It was strange that so many days had passed before he had a chance to use his axe during the day, but this day belonged to the executioner. Raguel had a proverbial knife to his throat, a few of the gathered angels and saints didn't quite believe his claims for one reason or another and the pressure was mounting. While he was attempting to fend off his accusers the execution slipped into the crowd. Mammon didn't care about the truth, right and wrong was for the angels and the servants of Yahweh to bicker about. Besides, he already knew that Raguel was an angel or a saint sworn to Yahweh and therefore an enemy. With a swift kick Mammon brought Raguel to his knees and with a powerful swing decapitated another angel in the name of Satan. The heavens roiled and night fell in an instant, hours before their due. In the confusion Mammon escaped into the dark. Blood flowed from his axe, and there would be more blood for the axe to drink before the night was done. For once Mammon so the end coming, perhaps he would survive this conflict yet.

Rodion ~ Raguel Archangel ~ Hider has been killed. It is now Night 9, 72 hours for all night actions.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - N9 7/25

Postby edocsil on Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:58 pm

Last thing, I was pointed out that I had said

edocsil wrote:The six remaining angels lunged for the demon and as their weapons pierced him he screamed and flashed to ash. Now one had fallen the angels knew, but how many yet stalked the land?


I have been told that LSU was the only dead angel at the time. If that was the case I misspoke and without the OP the only way to verify is to read 60 pages for the first 4 days... If LSU was the only dead angel the appropriate number would have been 7
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - N9 7/25

Postby edocsil on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:07 pm

Mammon and Mephistopheles were all that remained of the original six servants of Satan. The Executioner ad done his part, and the Liar had as well. With the many dead and the few saints that had been turned to the demons side there was no longer any hope for the Angels and the other forces of Yahweh. The executioner's axe fell again severing another angels head. Raphael passed from this world in a spray of blood, and with his death the numbers turned. The angels could no longer control the day, the night and day now belonged to Satan.

Dawn came, it was a pale, pitiful thing. Fog coated the world and the sun could not be seen. Elisabeth of Hungary approached the Archangel Michael, arguable the most powerful of them all. She ran her fingers through his hair and over his wings, waking the sleeping angel. He looked at the beautiful saint sitting before him. she was one sworn to Yahweh he thought. He could indulge himself in the briefest of passions for this stunning human woman. Before he could say a a thing Elisabeth whispered his name, once under her breath and once aloud. With those two words she sealed Michael's doom. His power began to flow out from him, leaving him a mere mortal, and in mortal danger. Elisabeth drew a dagger and plunged it into his heart, leaving just one angel remaining.

Sariel had done his part, he had saved Michael, and with his presence had ensured Michael's continued life. However, he knew the end was coming and there was nothing he could do about it. So he sat and prayed, prayed that vengeance would guide the hand of the angels. Mephistopheles entered the room where Sariel prayed. Sariel did not look up, he had felt the death of his brothers, and decided to spend his final moments in communion with with Yahweh. Mephistopheles placed his hand on Sariel's shoulder. Satan's power surged through him and Sariel was destroyed in an instant, every particle of him was separated in a fraction of a second and Sariel crumpled into a shifting dust at Mephistopheles' feet.

And so passed the last of the archangels, and so Yahweh lost his gambit. Satan came to Yahweh to demand the submission to the terms of the contest.

You have lost. You reign is over and this world belongs to me. Submit to the terms of the agreement, or shed the honor you claim to posses.

Yahweh closed his eyes and made a decision.

The power of your minions was greater than mine in this test. This world is yours, I will keep to the agreement.

Opening his eyes Yahweh continued.

But it will not be for long. I can not unmake you, but I can unmake this world. I will not leave them to suffer in your grasp.

With that the entire world began to crumble. Cites collapsed, the seas surged, and the the planet shook in the throes of it's destruction. Satan could only watch in impotent rage. He had no power to create or preserve, and somehow Yahweh had found how to destroy. Satan's would be kingdom imploded leaving nothing but dust spreading out among the the stars.

In a distant galaxy Yahweh mourned the destruction of that world. He had made many worlds, but for all it's flaws Earth had been one of his favorite creations. Drawing in the matter from a nearby nebula Yahweh compressed it forming the basis of a new planet. He had time. Eventually Satan would come to tempt the people who would populate this new planet, but he would have time to see the birth of civilization again before that time came. He could always create anew.

Fifth ~ Raphael Archangel ~ Seraph Knight Has been killed
Safariguy ~ Michael Archangel ~ JOAT has been endgamed
/ ~ Sariel Archangel ~ Bodyguard has been engamed
Violet ~ Catherine of Genoa Saint ~ Backup Doc has been endgamed

Strike Wolf ~ Mammon Demon ~ Executioner has won
PCM ~ Mephistopheles Demon ~ Gift Giver has won
Jak ~ Elisabeth of Hungary Saint ~ Doublevoter has won
The recruited saints who did not survive have won
The Demons who did not survive have won
All modkilled players have lost
All "Good" saints and Angels have lost.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - Endgame

Postby aage on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:09 pm

:)

Good job, SW and PCM :D
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - Endgame

Postby edocsil on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:14 pm

First off I would like to say a heartfelt thank you to everyone who has participated in the games. I believe only Jonty, Strike wolf, Safari, Rodion, PCM, and Violet participated in them all. I would like to thank you for all putting up with delayed scenes, various mistakes, and some very long games. OP on the Egyptian game was written on Aug 18, 2011, over a year and a half ago. I will be taking a break from modding at least until the summer, and will not have more than one game going at a time unless someone needs a replacement.

One last time, thank you all. This series has meant so much to me in the past years.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - Endgame

Postby rishaed on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:21 pm

It was an excellent game! I was honestly expecting that we would lose after I was outed. . . should've stuck to the list chapcrap gave you. You had Strikewolf on it and since me and soundman turned up scum I would have thought he was the logical lynch there.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - Endgame

Postby strike wolf on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:24 pm

GG all. We really had to scheme and trick to win this game (and half the time it backfired). A lot of people I could really thank. Aage played really well though he didn't get much to show for it. Soundman did as well and Rishaed did for what little he was in the game. Jak probably saved us in the end by voting Rodion early. Couldn't have done it without you. Big congrats to Pancake just for staying almost completely out of the line of fire for 9 whole days, was beginning to think he wouldn't even need that Joan of Arc fake claim. I thought the town played really well most of the game and I have to say 4 straight mafia lynches was impressive under any circumstance. Rodion had the right idea with the math and it worked well for town most of the game (I'm not sure about the kill the double voter idea on day 8 but I might be biased). Safari made some good investigation choices and did well of not drawing too much attention to himself before claiming and claiming at a good time. / had a good save on Safari. I'm still not sure what I did to tip him off but it seemed like F1fth was onto me from early on and kept coming back to me. Not sure what he saw but I'm thankful that town didn't put more weight behind him. chap definitely drew the attention of mafia when he made that claim. Definitely side lined a few actions his way. I'm sure there's more but I can't think of any at the moment.

Anyways, rambling speech aside. Once again good game all. I'm interested in seeing the actions for this game as it seemed like we as mafia had a lot of failed actions.

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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - Endgame

Postby edocsil on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:37 pm

Night Actions.

N1
Jonty deprog iliad
safari investigat victor
/ BG aage
lsu tiger josh Vig hensow
Rodion hide behind vio
Jak steal victors vote
DoomYoshi roleblock lsu
Lovo track F1fth
Jakv2 uses BP vest
DRoZ watch cm5
rishaed Doc illiad
aage Kill Mr. S
PCM give BP vest to illiad
Soundman Rb illiad

N2
Jonty deprog iliad
safari inv com 9
/ BG PCM
jgordon Power Jak
lsu tiger josh shoot victor
Rodion hide behind vio
DoomYoshi roleblock lsu
Samgrossy doc aage
Lovo Track PCM
DRoZ watch Aage
rishaed doc vode
aage Kill LSU
PCM give Gift Jak
Soundman RB Mr S

N3
Jonty deprog vio
safari inv vio
F1fth ~ Seraph Chap
/ prot chap
jgordon Power Fifth
Samgrossy doc aage
Lovo Track saf
DRoZ watch jonty
Vodean Switch off
aage Kill chap
PCM give Gift vio
Soundman RB JG

N4
Jonty deprog chap
safari inv sound
/ prot chap
jgordon Power nos
Rodion Hide JG hide BB
Samgrossy doc chap
DRoZ watch chap
Chap Inv rodion
Rishaed Doc Strike
aage Kill JG
PCM give Gift chap
Soundman RB droz


N5
Jonty deprog chap
/ prot saf
Rodion Hide samG
Doomyoshi RB aage
DRoZ watch chap
aage Kill greg
PCM give Gift rodion
Soundman RB droz


N6
Jonty deprog chap
/ prot saf
Rodion Hide samG
Doomyoshi RB aage
DRoZ watch chap
aage Kill greg
PCM give Gift rodion
Soundman RB droz


N7
Jonty deprog iliad
Safari Inv Jonty
/ prot saf
Rodion Hide /
Doomyoshi RB aage
DRoZ watch jonty inv strike
Strike Kill Jonty
PCM give Gift droz



N8
Safari Inv doom
/ prot saf
Rodion Hide blake
Doomyoshi RB +inv droz
DRoZ watch rodion
Strike Kill saf
PCM give Gift doom

N9
Safari Inv fifth
/ prot saf
Rodion Hide nos
Violet Doc Saf
Jakv2 Inv saf
Strike kill greg
PCM give Gift jak

N10
Safari Inv jak
/ prot saf
Jakv2 Inv saf
Violet Doc Saf
Strike kill fifth
PCM give Gift jak

I think their all right. Sorry, its a bit messy without knowing some of the replacements, best I can do.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - Endgame

Postby edocsil on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:46 pm

So, I do have a few questions/comments. To be honest the game didn't play out like I expected. I never thought that there would be a D10, much less an execution D10. There was not a single vig the entire game when the scum could gift kills, the JOAT had no action limit, and there was a town vig. LSU tried to kill, but victor blocked him every time.

Q1, Saf, why didn't you kill Jak N10? I assumed you suspected that he was scum and it could be lylo, or close to it.
Q2, scum why did you never gift Vigs, despite gifting jak ~3 times you mush have known he was on your side by that point. (for the record, demons didn't know the converted saints. Saints knew the demons after Gabriel/jonty died.

Technically the game wasn't over today, but scum had a doublevoter and an executioner left. There wasn't much of a need to play it out so I ended after confirming that the scum were OK with it.

Also, Holy shit, jonty was accurate with the deprograms. I think he deprogrammed 4-5 before he died N7
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - Endgame

Postby strike wolf on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:49 pm

A couple mistakes:

N2

Strike Kills LSU

N6

Strike Kills Jonty. (which is why Doom's roleblock didn't affect him)
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - Endgame

Postby strike wolf on Thu Mar 28, 2013 10:55 pm

Oh also didn't we gift Jak a doc the last night? (The idea was that if Saf aimed for me Jak would protect me).

strike wolf wrote:Im fairly confident but as close as we are to actually winning this after all thats gone against us, Id rather take as few chances as possible.

Our actions:

I kill fifth.
Pancake gifts jak a doc ability.


We never gifted vigs because honestly, we never trusted them not to vig us if they hadn't been recruited and we felt cop investigations/doc protects were more likely to be used. We did know that after D9 that Jak was on our side but at that point we figured potentially keeping one of us alive would be more useful than gifting Jak a kill that might not even be used on the right person (if in the unlikely case he wasn't recruited and he killed me or if he ended up killing the person we had already targeted anyways).

I was also a bit sad we never got a chance to gift a vote steal. I wanted to do that as part of our endgame but the opportunity never prevented itself.
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - Endgame

Postby Rodion on Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:41 pm

Do you have all role PMs?

Did my hiding prevent me from getting those gifts?
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Re: Golden Pantheon - Angels and Demons - Endgame

Postby edocsil on Thu Mar 28, 2013 11:50 pm

Rodion wrote:Do you have all role PMs?

Did my hiding prevent me from getting those gifts?


Yes to PMs, They'll be up tomorrow. Also yes to hiding. If you hid behind someone you were hidden from gifts targeting you.
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