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edocsil wrote:Also, one quick note. I would suggest not directly comparing WCs. While it isn't strictly against the rules (I really hate to modkill) I will say that it would be a really bad idea to META it too much.
DRoZ wrote:Well, in case things go sour for me, I did want to get out a little information I learned last night. I was hoping to hear more about any night activities from sam, but since it doesn't seem that he wishes to say anything, I will say this... I am a watcher, Augustine of Canterbury, last night I watched aage and he was targeted by samgrossy. Earlier today, sam spoke on Jak's vote on aage, perhaps the targeting was a means to set Jak up today, perhaps not. I feared releasing this, should it be that sam's role was a productive one, but lynchings can go quickly so I am putting that out there. Either way it is information. I would also like to point out a few things about myself, back long ago when I played mafia on here, I tended to be a bit post happy, I think this brought a lot of attention my way and I would wind up lynched or night killed early on, which led to quite a bit of frustration and as such, I now try to only make substantial posts, or short posts as a means of clarifying.
samgrossy wrote:DRoZ wrote:Well, in case things go sour for me, I did want to get out a little information I learned last night. I was hoping to hear more about any night activities from sam, but since it doesn't seem that he wishes to say anything, I will say this... I am a watcher, Augustine of Canterbury, last night I watched aage and he was targeted by samgrossy. Earlier today, sam spoke on Jak's vote on aage, perhaps the targeting was a means to set Jak up today, perhaps not. I feared releasing this, should it be that sam's role was a productive one, but lynchings can go quickly so I am putting that out there. Either way it is information. I would also like to point out a few things about myself, back long ago when I played mafia on here, I tended to be a bit post happy, I think this brought a lot of attention my way and I would wind up lynched or night killed early on, which led to quite a bit of frustration and as such, I now try to only make substantial posts, or short posts as a means of clarifying.
I will verify that I did visit Aage last night.
What I am confusesd about is that I never heard you ask about my night actions. If you did, it was only in the last day and you didn't give me enough time to respond... although I don't think you ever asked. So why out that I visited Aage, without first coming right out and asking me in the thread about my night action. While I don't think this is necessarily scummy, it just doesn't make any sense.
If you would have asked in thread "Sam, did you visit anyone last night" you just tell me that I did visit someone. This does two things. First, it gives you no info as to whether I tell the truth or not. Next, it gives scum a two targets tonight, a watcher and me. Both of us have non vanilla roles.
DRoZ wrote:I was hoping to hear you discuss, not that I asked, I was just hoping you may have something to say from your night action without me drawing attention to it, as I said before, I did not want to out anything. The only reason I bring it up now is an attempt to ease some of the growing pressure on me. Had I not, then surely I would have remained an attractive lynch option, waiting until votes have built up would have just made my response seem desperate.
DRoZ wrote:I was responding to sams confusion about my not asking him about visiting you. I was hoping that he or you would reference whatever happened last night without my bringing it up. As there seems to be sentiment against me I decided to speak on what I knew. I used past tense to convey my mindset prior to the votes against me. I apologize for not being clear enough for you to follow.
To simplify... 1) I watched you last night and saw that sam targeted you. 2) At the start of the day I followed along hoping one of you would reveal what exchange happened between you last night.(This is the point that I had decided not to draw attention to the targeting) 3) A few people began to question my alignment, so I said what I knew, as I said before, waiting until further animosity built would have made it much more difficult to clear myself. (This is the point I decided to draw attention to the targeting) I am not sure how to make that any more clear.
there wasn't (nor isn't) even a plan yet, so I find it interesting that you already know that it will work out.sounds like it should work out well.
Aside from the fact that f1fth said 'those people are most likely to be mafia' rather than 'these are all the scum in the group guys', this is a useless remark.thats all well and good, but there were FOUR, not THREE anti-town on the BW. so even if you lynch all of us, and we ALL flip anti-town, you are still missing someone... and by then scum has an advantage anyway from the night, since we wont all flip anti-town, and even if we do, there will be some third parties.
Yeah... who are you implying to be scum here, me or Sam? If Sam, that'd be very poor teamplay. If me, he could have never known who targeted me especially since I wasn't even aware of it.or you are scum, with info about a fellow scum that you are using to try and make us forget about you before we BW you too much
jonty125 wrote:I'm going to vote DroZ for his random claim. And also FOS jak, for removing Vio on his list based on how she worded her post, with an element of gut instinct.
jgordon1111 wrote:jonty125 wrote:I'm going to vote DroZ for his random claim. And also FOS jak, for removing Vio on his list based on how she worded her post, with an element of gut instinct.
Your kidding right? Random claim? Can you clarify what you mean by a random claim? Are you playing tiddlywinks and we dont know it? Are you drunk?
OR ARE YOU SKIMMING and throwing random stupid crap into the mix? Please Explain in detail why you have made that ridiculous vote.
aage wrote:lmfao... Okay Vodean, your last three posts.there wasn't (nor isn't) even a plan yet, so I find it interesting that you already know that it will work out.sounds like it should work out well.Aside from the fact that f1fth said 'those people are most likely to be mafia' rather than 'these are all the scum in the group guys', this is a useless remark.thats all well and good, but there were FOUR, not THREE anti-town on the BW. so even if you lynch all of us, and we ALL flip anti-town, you are still missing someone... and by then scum has an advantage anyway from the night, since we wont all flip anti-town, and even if we do, there will be some third parties.Yeah... who are you implying to be scum here, me or Sam? If Sam, that'd be very poor teamplay. If me, he could have never known who targeted me especially since I wasn't even aware of it.or you are scum, with info about a fellow scum that you are using to try and make us forget about you before we BW you too much
FoS.
jonty125 wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:jonty125 wrote:I'm going to vote DroZ for his random claim. And also FOS jak, for removing Vio on his list based on how she worded her post, with an element of gut instinct.
Your kidding right? Random claim? Can you clarify what you mean by a random claim? Are you playing tiddlywinks and we dont know it? Are you drunk?
OR ARE YOU SKIMMING and throwing random stupid crap into the mix? Please Explain in detail why you have made that ridiculous vote.
Well, he was nowhere near L-2 and he also didn't give much in his defence.
jak111 wrote:Sorry for bringing up this list again, but it's pretty much NEEDED just for the sake of keeping claims, etc organized.
Saf
jonty
soundman
violet
aage
JG
Nag
DRoZ ~ Pretty much confirmed Watcher, watched Aage, targeted by Sam and is now confirmed that Sam visited Aage.
jak ~ Confirmed Vote Stealer (Alignment is questioned by some of you, but as far as the role goes, it is 100% confirmed from D2)
Strike
Vodean
So far the pressuring system is working, and we are gettin VALUABLE information. For instance, we know Sam visits people, and we know DRoZ is a watcher which is a town role. (Edoc isn't crazy enough to make it third party or mafia )
Now we are left with 9 to pressure for claims, even if I'm wrong, Violet has the benefit of doubt from me unless proven otherwise from a pr. So the list is down to 8 from my pov. Of these 8, I really think the next two best targets (and lately very scummy after 4 are mentioned to be non town on the list and the list got smaller just from me posting).
In my opinion these two have no real reason to fear if they are town because there's 5 town of the 9 left. But the fact that they seem to be panicking as of late, FOS Vodean and Jonty
Unvote DRoZ, Vote Vodean
Time to start spicing things up and get the kettle boiling until we hit the gold at the bottom.
jak111 wrote:Sorry for bringing up this list again, but it's pretty much NEEDED just for the sake of keeping claims, etc organized.
Saf
jonty
soundman
violet
aage
JG
Nag
DRoZ ~ Pretty much confirmed Watcher, watched Aage, targeted by Sam and is now confirmed that Sam visited Aage.
jak ~ Confirmed Vote Stealer (Alignment is questioned by some of you, but as far as the role goes, it is 100% confirmed from D2)
Strike
Vodean
So far the pressuring system is working, and we are gettin VALUABLE information. For instance, we know Sam visits people, and we know DRoZ is a watcher which is a town role. (Edoc isn't crazy enough to make it third party or mafia )
Now we are left with 9 to pressure for claims, even if I'm wrong, Violet has the benefit of doubt from me unless proven otherwise from a pr. So the list is down to 8 from my pov. Of these 8, I really think the next two best targets (and lately very scummy after 4 are mentioned to be non town on the list and the list got smaller just from me posting).
In my opinion these two have no real reason to fear if they are town because there's 5 town of the 9 left. But the fact that they seem to be panicking as of late, FOS Vodean and Jonty
Unvote DRoZ, Vote Vodean
Time to start spicing things up and get the kettle boiling until we hit the gold at the bottom.
jak111 wrote:Sorry for bringing up this list again, but it's pretty much NEEDED just for the sake of keeping claims, etc organized.
Saf
jonty
soundman
violet
aage
JG
Nag
DRoZ ~ Pretty much confirmed Watcher, watched Aage, targeted by Sam and is now confirmed that Sam visited Aage.
jak ~ Confirmed Vote Stealer (Alignment is questioned by some of you, but as far as the role goes, it is 100% confirmed from D2)
Strike
Vodean
So far the pressuring system is working, and we are gettin VALUABLE information. For instance, we know Sam visits people, and we know DRoZ is a watcher which is a town role. (Edoc isn't crazy enough to make it third party or mafia )
Now we are left with 9 to pressure for claims, even if I'm wrong, Violet has the benefit of doubt from me unless proven otherwise from a pr. So the list is down to 8 from my pov. Of these 8, I really think the next two best targets (and lately very scummy after 4 are mentioned to be non town on the list and the list got smaller just from me posting).
In my opinion these two have no real reason to fear if they are town because there's 5 town of the 9 left. But the fact that they seem to be panicking as of late, FOS Vodean and Jonty
Unvote DRoZ, Vote Vodean
Time to start spicing things up and get the kettle boiling until we hit the gold at the bottom.
jonty125 wrote:I'm going to vote DroZ for his random claim. And also FOS jak, for removing Vio on his list based on how she worded her post, with an element of gut instinct.
jonty125 wrote:jgordon1111 wrote:jonty125 wrote:I'm going to vote DroZ for his random claim. And also FOS jak, for removing Vio on his list based on how she worded her post, with an element of gut instinct.
Your kidding right? Random claim? Can you clarify what you mean by a random claim? Are you playing tiddlywinks and we dont know it? Are you drunk?
OR ARE YOU SKIMMING and throwing random stupid crap into the mix? Please Explain in detail why you have made that ridiculous vote.
Well, he was nowhere near L-2 and he also didn't give much in his defence.
Iliad wrote:The upside of calling everyone scum and making 1000 predictions is that statistically you should get a few right.
nagerous wrote:In essence, slow advocation of a mass claim? Sure mass claims work, but they are also game ruiners in many a case - also never forget that scum gain just as much 'valuable' information as the town do on roles.jak111 wrote:Now we are left with 9 to pressure for claims, even if I'm wrong, Violet has the benefit of doubt from me unless proven otherwise from a pr. So the list is down to 8 from my pov. Of these 8, I really think the next two best targets (and lately very scummy after 4 are mentioned to be non town on the list and the list got smaller just from me posting).
In my opinion these two have no real reason to fear if they are town because there's 5 town of the 9 left. But the fact that they seem to be panicking as of late, FOS Vodean and Jonty
Unvote DRoZ, Vote Vodean
Time to start spicing things up and get the kettle boiling until we hit the gold at the bottom.
It was directed a Droz alright, but the only way he could have gained that information is if either Sam (the watcher) or me (the watchee) were scum. Therefore I was wondering how you thought your conspiracy theory worked out, and found that it didn't. The plan you responded to was only /'s notion that we should have one. There isn't even one now. Your useless rebuttal indeed seems useless since you try to disprove a theory with irrelevant math. No skimming here.vodean wrote:aage wrote:lmfao... Okay Vodean, your last three posts.there wasn't (nor isn't) even a plan yet, so I find it interesting that you already know that it will work out.sounds like it should work out well.Aside from the fact that f1fth said 'those people are most likely to be mafia' rather than 'these are all the scum in the group guys', this is a useless remark.thats all well and good, but there were FOUR, not THREE anti-town on the BW. so even if you lynch all of us, and we ALL flip anti-town, you are still missing someone... and by then scum has an advantage anyway from the night, since we wont all flip anti-town, and even if we do, there will be some third parties.Yeah... who are you implying to be scum here, me or Sam? If Sam, that'd be very poor teamplay. If me, he could have never known who targeted me especially since I wasn't even aware of it.or you are scum, with info about a fellow scum that you are using to try and make us forget about you before we BW you too much
FoS.
you are clearly skimming really badly... that was obviously directed to Droz, and the first one was right after someone posted a plan. The second one was a useless rebuttal to a useless argument.
strike wolf wrote:So please tell me what kind of defense do you expect him to make given the case that was against him? It seems to me that claiming was his attempt at a defense. I also like how you've gone after the seemingly confirmed watcher (granted, watcher does not guarantee allegiance).
LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Vote Vodean since I maintain that he definitely isn't an angel and there is a good chance that he is scum based off of Jak's role revelation.
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