Crazy's Super crazy mafia. End Game: PGO wins!

[Kanin Usagi]

Well, guess that proves that elonpuck was town. Damn.

So, are you a ninja vig and targeted elon tonight or something? or how else do you back up this quote?

It proves he is town because

elonpuckhog-Town ??? Has been killed!

Unless the question marks mean something special I don't understand.

[new guy1]

It means it got hidden. That makes me think janitor killed him, he had a role influenced by a nighttime investigation (ie what he is depends who he visits), or there was a reason not to reveal it. Either way, I am way more interested in zimmah's hare-brained post. Was it sarcasm, or was that a serious post?

[NoSurvivors]

I really dont want to sit around and let this day also be a NL.. because then this game will end up mafia win.. :l

[new guy1]

How do you know that? do you know that there are 3 mafia and therefore we would lose? If we lynch today, we must hit mafia, otherwise we lose. If there is a NL, then we will have 2/5 chance of hitting mafia (assuming there are two mafia) instead of losing the game today (assuming there are 2 mafia and they kill in the night, 2/2 is a lose for town). Therefore, I would say we should pressure one/two people for a claim, have a NL at the end of the day, and come tomorrow everyone gives their roles and night actions and we attempt to find mafia (I dont suggest claiming today for the sake of a fun game, but we could claim actions and roles today if we decide thats better).

[vodean]

How do you know that? do you know that there are 3 mafia and therefore we would lose? If we lynch today, we must hit mafia, otherwise we lose. If there is a NL, then we will have 2/5 chance of hitting mafia (assuming there are two mafia) instead of losing the game today (assuming there are 2 mafia and they kill in the night, 2/2 is a lose for town). Therefore, I would say we should pressure one/two people for a claim, have a NL at the end of the day, and come tomorrow everyone gives their roles and night actions and we attempt to find mafia (I dont suggest claiming today for the sake of a fun game, but we could claim actions and roles today if we decide thats better).

vote ng1
starting with you.
if you have a decent claim, then you are a town PR trying to make yourself useful. if not, you are scum trying to pick out a target for tonight. lets hear a claim.

[new guy1]

Haha, how could I expect that? Well then, since if another townie votes me as well the mafia can speed lynch me (assuming they have two players), I am Mo Lestor- town watcher, although it acts as a tracker, since I see who the chosen player visits (I guess crazy got the two mixed up???). I visited you, I know who you visited, NoS as proof, and I will not question you as to why you visited him as he did not die. Therefore, unless you have information on NoS that you would like to reveal, then I can assume that you are town, he is town (or appears that way, depending on what your role was), and therefore the remaining three may be mafia. So who, out of those three (may include NoS) do you think is scummy enough to pressure?

[vodean]

alright. im tracker. im not sure why you, as watcher, are a tracker, but you were right. nos didnt visit anyone, so he's clear. that leaves kanin, zimmah, and vio. im guessing zimmah and vio.
vote zimmah. lets hear a claim from you. then we can move on. tomorrow, with two trackers we are guaranteed info if we dont lynch. lets see if we can catch someone out though.

[new guy1]

Might as well, Zimmah consider my vote on you if you do not cooperate

[new guy1]

Ooops, huge mistake on my part, I actually am a watcher, watched NoS and saw you visited him Vodean. I am sorry for the confusion, just forgot my action and then thought it was flipped. Deepest appoligies.

[VioIet]

If this post is true and........

Haha, how could I expect that? Well then, since if another townie votes me as well the mafia can speed lynch me (assuming they have two players), I am Mo Lestor- town watcher, although it acts as a tracker, since I see who the chosen player visits (I guess crazy got the two mixed up???). I visited you, I know who you visited, NoS as proof, and I will not question you as to why you visited him as he did not die. Therefore, unless you have information on NoS that you would like to reveal, then I can assume that you are town, he is town (or appears that way, depending on what your role was), and therefore the remaining three may be mafia. So who, out of those three (may include NoS) do you think is scummy enough to pressure?

if this post is also true......

alright. im tracker. im not sure why you, as watcher, are a tracker, but you were right. nos didnt visit anyone, so he's clear. that leaves kanin, zimmah, and vio. im guessing zimmah and vio.
vote zimmah. lets hear a claim from you. then we can move on. tomorrow, with two trackers we are guaranteed info if we dont lynch. lets see if we can catch someone out though.

Then it has indeed come down to me, kanin and zimmah. I am also a tracker and I visited Kann last night. Kanin went nowhere, which means that it must be zimmah.


Vote Zimmah


And thanks for clarifying this new guy:

Ooops, huge mistake on my part, I actually am a watcher, watched NoS and saw you visited him Vodean. I am sorry for the confusion, just forgot my action and then thought it was flipped. Deepest appoligies.

[zimmah]

Hold on guys, I was acting this strange because I targeted elon with both my actions, since I am a tracker AND a watcher, and I can target two different persons or the same person. I choose to double target elon tonight, and he was visited by no one. This is why I was confused.

I'm at school now, but given the votes on me I thought I had to share this now, but I won't vote yet.

[zimmah]

Ok, i have a theory.

No one visited elon, if we assume this is a fact, (assuming mafia would show up in results and there are no ninja roles, and in your case if you believe I'm not lying), than the only solution is that the act of visiting someone killed elon.

I know who elon visited, but I will not post it for reasons I will explain below.

The two option i can think of are this:

In any case I think mafia was disabled (roleblocked) and didn't get a kill, this is because Apperantly no one visited elon and there's no other dead body. So whoever roleblocked someone yesterday, roleblock him again, or if you can out him, maybe you should, so we can lynchn him.

Option one: elon was another watcher/ tracker or town power and got killed by a PGO, in that case, his target would be a PGO, and since he hasn't claimed yet, this may be the case. And unless we have a bus driver, I think he shouldn't claim.

Option two: elon was a hider and tried to hide behind mafia, in which case I know who is mafia.

Either way we have allready a couple of claims:

Me: tracker and watcher
Ng1: tracker
Vodean: watcher
Vio: tracker

With current public information we know:

I'm the only one who visited elon
Elon visited someone
Kanin visited noone
Vodean visited nos
Nos didn't visit anyone
Vio visited Kanin (wait a minute, vio is still alive so Kanin is not a PGO)

Ok, no reason to still hide it, elon visited Kanin and died, this makes me believe Kanin killed elon by just being mafia, since elon might have tried to hide behind him. Since we can be quite sure elon is not a PGO, I think it's save to say this.

Assuming no one is lying, Kanin is scum and nos is probably scum as well, (by method of elimination) . However, with everyone being watcher, tracker or both, I wonder who blocked mafia. Still, it seems likely that Kanin and nos are the scums.

[zimmah]

Another option, although risky, is that vodean and nos are backing each other up. Both being scum. I don't think this is the case, but its an option.

[zimmah]

Another option, although risky, is that vodean and nos are backing each other up. Both being scum. I don't think this is the case, but its an option.

Ofc I meant ng1 and vodean

[crazymilkshake5]

Offical Vote Count.

Zimmah-Vodean, Violet-L2

With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.