[Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

[pancakemix]

Righto team, that's Nendreel taken care of. Now we need to try and work out who the killer of humans is. Maybe I should have told you I was unlynchable, but really - did you think you could kill the man in yellow? Come on! Just a little bit of reverence to mythos would go down well! Anyway, I wanted to tell you I was helping town, tell I was going to kill the re-animator and basically prove myself. Can we please now get on with this game properly so town can win?

Since Nendreel appears to have been harmless why should we accept you killing him? Why shouldn't we just try to lynch you again today? (Under the assumption that your unlynchable power was one shot as Little Witt's seems to have been.)
Why did pancakemix not protect his partner, or can hippo kill through protection?

I did. Some shenanigans are afoot. You should probably try to lynch hippo again. It is kinda obvious that he's setting everyone against each other.

I have no idea why anyone thinks I have a killing ability. Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a murderer.

[betiko]

Righto team, that's Nendreel taken care of. Now we need to try and work out who the killer of humans is. Maybe I should have told you I was unlynchable, but really - did you think you could kill the man in yellow? Come on! Just a little bit of reverence to mythos would go down well! Anyway, I wanted to tell you I was helping town, tell I was going to kill the re-animator and basically prove myself. Can we please now get on with this game properly so town can win?

Since Nendreel appears to have been harmless why should we accept you killing him? Why shouldn't we just try to lynch you again today? (Under the assumption that your unlynchable power was one shot as Little Witt's seems to have been.)
Why did pancakemix not protect his partner, or can hippo kill through protection?

I did. Some shenanigans are afoot. You should probably try to lynch hippo again. It is kinda obvious that he's setting everyone against each other.

I have no idea why anyone thinks I have a killing ability. Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a murderer.

can you remind me of spiesr's abilities?
Also your role changed to doc after you guys made your acheived your zombie thingy according to you. What exactly was your role before being a doc as a helper other than a "corpse provider"? Can you let us know all the revival/protection attempts you guys did since day 1? would be interesting to retrace the other kill attempts to find a pattern.
Also, NG would really need your help on this. Can you look through all the yith info database about potential killers?

[rishaed]

@ Rishaed - forgetful much? That was a switch from Betiko only a few posts earlier when you wanted to lunch [sic] Betiko more than me. And yes, I am unlunchable. In this one you try and paint yourself as reasonable and appropriate (classic scum-tell) and (in response to IB) you try and paint Nendreel as non-scum. I guess you are doing what any self-respecting chamelion would do once located by your prey. My vote stays on you, thanks. And as for all this - we are joined at the hip stuff, umm ... nope!

Im gonna bullet these.
A. I came right out and said that I would be willing to vote you over betiko out in my post THIS ONE at the end of it
B. as for the lunching part my autocorrect on my itouch got ahold of my words, that you are trying to twist that into a case, is highly suspicious.
C. I HAVE been reasonable and appropriate See. here and here, AND to your entire joined at the hip we were until D7 in this post HERE!. I have been offering whatever information to town that I felt was reasonable through questions, or to help by what i felt was a reasonable vig at the time (saf). I don't see where you are saying that I am trying to paint myself as such when I have been like that.
D. Nendreel Showed up in LIGHT BLUE for pities sake! It doesn't confirm anything but Elderthings, cult, and Witt were anything but a shade of blue, and were certainly not in anyways related to town. IT seems you have had the hots for Nendreel (looking back for awhile).
E. Betiko in response to your question here is the link My reason why. . .

[spiesr]

Spiesr, as you have been insane and from what you are telling us now you are not anymore; how did that state affected you and did it alter your WC? why did you change the title of your post while insane only once, what was your PR?

Let's break down the insanity thing quick.
Night 6 I asked about Little Witt's alignment. The response I got was that his goal was to revive humans. I also saw the text ?!$^!M○╝+&$⌐ñ3§49#8♥+┬* and lost my vote. I assume that this is the point where I became insane, but I cannot be certain.
Night 7 I asked about Hippo's alignment. I was told that his goal is to kill Hastur. I was also killed that night.
After Night 8 I was revived. At this time I was told that I had my vote again. I was not informed of any other changes to my condition.
Night 9 I used my doctor ability on Pancakemix.

So, I think, but can't be sure, that I became insane around the time when I asked about Little Witt's alignment. I lost my vote at the time and saw some weird stuff. I was told my vote was back when I was revived. I cannot be certain why this happened. It may be related to my revival or it may have been a temporary effect that wore off while I was dead, I don't know. I do not have any indication of my current sanity. Someone could ask about it of course, but I don't think we have any other way to know for sure. I do not know if they answers to my questions about alignment are correct or not. I never had a post restriction assigned and just put that text in my post to see what responses it would generate/shits and giggles.

Now on to you Betiko. First off what the hell? You've killed 5 people and only one was (probably?) a threat to the town. That is not an acceptable way to play so knock it off or we might have to kill you just to stop your killing spree. Especially bad were the two attempts at Chapcrap. By that point in the game we had plenty of suspicious people for you to try and kill and for some reason who went out and killed survivors instead.

[thehippo8]

After Betico's post I have to apologise to Rishaed. Here was I assuming that it was Rishaed on the killing spree when it was actually Betico. I get your point about my (long) post not explaining my kill on Nendreel as well as it might. In short, my theory is that there are normal humans and then there are "the experiment". They cannt be the same thing - hence me removing the reviver. But, Rishaed, I am rethinking things and accordingly ... unvote for now. I need to go back and read things with this new information in mind. And here was I thinking I knew everything!

[betiko]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_West

oh wow, those zombies seem to be nice guys!

[new guy1]

Hey, I am just here to say I will help town in any way I can, and while some of the messages of my partners have been erased by the sands of time (AKA the damn database), I can not recount every single role that we had a hold of. I know that we shared the information we got, and so the list showing all the roles is probably as close to correct as anything. Anyone that we were unable to control, the town has effectivley lynched, except for hippo, and as far as all the roles, I dont know if I ever took over a zombie or not, but if I did then their role pms looked no different then town's. The only role that I cannot say I trust is hippo, and that is only because I could not posses him.

[new guy1]

Also, under the new enlightenment of betiko's link to a bio on herbet west, I must agree that I definately want a hug from one of those fellows that was revived, because it definately sounds like they are safe... In case you dont know, that is sarcasm, and they sound like a potential threat to town, but that's just my two cents worth on the matter.

[DoomYoshi]

If you know that jonty, Rodion and spiesr all have killing abilities, what more are you looking for? Isn't that enough?

wow. so now rodion has a killing ability. I thought you said that zombies had no abilities and he's a zombie just like you, which you obviously know. nice slip about that BS you came up with regarding zombies who lose their abilities.

I was going off your list... Yes, it's a slip, but not the type you are thinking.

well what type of slip then? as far as I know, you are not masoned with rodion and you have no access to that kind of info. Unless you are because you are still cult and rodion is cult as I suspected earier. Or are zombies masoned? Second slip?

The type of slip where I copied information from your list without thinking about it. I thought that was obvious.

I am fine with killing Rodion, in order to clear the zombies of being an evil faction. As for the re-animated, I can't say for sure.

[Rodion]

If you want to go that way...

Vote DoomYoshi.

This lynch:
a) clears the zombies (or, rather, the one remaining zombie: me) of being an evil faction
b) enlighten us on the status of surviving cultists, since neither has flipped afterJak's lynch

[rishaed]

I'll go with that, instead of vodean we should have lynched doom back at D5/D6. . . It would have saved a lynch. however I'm not completely convinced yet, but seeing as Jonty can't vote a lynch on Hippo is pretty much impossible. unvote

[betiko]

humm let me think, a confirmed cult+zombie over a confirmed town+zombie...

vote doom

[DoomYoshi]

We know that the cult is disbanded with the death of vodean.

[rishaed]

Im calling BS^ after that fiasco we had, (i admit i was pushing for it) you cannot say for certain that the cult was disbanded considering that vodean was not proven to be a 100%cult. However with the number of deaths we have had without cult showing it is highly probable that cult disbanded.

[pancakemix]

I did. Some shenanigans are afoot. You should probably try to lynch hippo again. It is kinda obvious that he's setting everyone against each other.

I have no idea why anyone thinks I have a killing ability. Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a murderer.

can you remind me of spiesr's abilities?
Also your role changed to doc after you guys made your acheived your zombie thingy according to you. What exactly was your role before being a doc as a helper other than a "corpse provider"? Can you let us know all the revival/protection attempts you guys did since day 1? would be interesting to retrace the other kill attempts to find a pattern.
Also, NG would really need your help on this. Can you look through all the yith info database about potential killers?

If you're referring to Nendreel's later resurrections, all I can say was those were completely his idea and I didn't agree with them. I thought they'd make the game go on too long.

My role pre-victory was zombie reviver. The difference is slight, but important. Doctors protect the living. Reanimators revive the dead. The thing was, our dead had to be fresh in order to test the formula, so we had to get there soon after they died. So we'd revive them before anyone could notice. In short, the only difference is that I don't zombify.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_West

oh wow, those zombies seem to be nice guys!

To be fair, Herbert West is the only person the zombies wanted to kill, at least in the Lovecraft story. I can't speak for any adaptations.

I'm for a doom lynch, but I think that when you know someone is killing people, you should probably deal with that. Hippo's already lied to us, we shouldn't take anything he says at face value.

[betiko]

I did. Some shenanigans are afoot. You should probably try to lynch hippo again. It is kinda obvious that he's setting everyone against each other.

I have no idea why anyone thinks I have a killing ability. Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a murderer.

can you remind me of spiesr's abilities?
Also your role changed to doc after you guys made your acheived your zombie thingy according to you. What exactly was your role before being a doc as a helper other than a "corpse provider"? Can you let us know all the revival/protection attempts you guys did since day 1? would be interesting to retrace the other kill attempts to find a pattern.
Also, NG would really need your help on this. Can you look through all the yith info database about potential killers?

If you're referring to Nendreel's later resurrections, all I can say was those were completely his idea and I didn't agree with them. I thought they'd make the game go on too long.

My role pre-victory was zombie reviver. The difference is slight, but important. Doctors protect the living. Reanimators revive the dead. The thing was, our dead had to be fresh in order to test the formula, so we had to get there soon after they died. So we'd revive them before anyone could notice. In short, the only difference is that I don't zombify.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herbert_West

oh wow, those zombies seem to be nice guys!

To be fair, Herbert West is the only person the zombies wanted to kill, at least in the Lovecraft story. I can't speak for any adaptations.

I'm for a doom lynch, but I think that when you know someone is killing people, you should probably deal with that. Hippo's already lied to us, we shouldn't take anything he says at face value.

but pcm, can you confirm zombies become powerless? are you sure of what you guys were doing? from wiki:

Herbert West is the inventor of a special solution that when injected into a main artery of a recently deceased person causes the body's mechanical, living functions to return. However, most subjects that have undergone the "re-animation" process have turned violent and, after failed attempts to return to their own graves, have terrorized the communities into which they were reanimated.

In Lovecraft's tale, Herbert West was ostracized by his fellow medical students because he believed he could overcome death and had only one friend: the unnamed narrator of the story. After a series of successful experiments Herbert West is eventually torn to pieces by his own experiments.

when you say that hippo lied, are you talking about targeting nendreel when he actually targeted you? If you are completely sure that zombies can't be killers I'm up to change my vote. I don't think, at least from what yith have told us, that any of them have ever been in a zombie bodie though...

[pancakemix]

I cannot confirm they are powerless. This has actually been one of my greatest fears. I'm afraid that they're after us, but not anyone else. Reading the story proper, you can see that they are wild at first but become more organized as the serum improves. Then they go after West. I can say with certainty that they are not a threat to town.

When I say hippo lied, I mean that he lied to us earlier when he initially claimed. I can't dig it up right now, I'm trying to do things for Rankin/Bass.

Vote Hippo money where my mouth is.

[rishaed]

If I am not mistaken he claimed Hastur only after lilwitt came out and said he had to kill hastur. Before that he claimed the all knowing one.

[thehippo8]

@PCM - I have never lied. If you care to show me a post you are concerned about then I am happy to explain more.

@Betico - I killed Nendreel after targeting Nendreel as I alluded to before doing. It does raise an important issue though. I believe town needs to discuss who I should remove from this point on in. In my view, I need to remove the threats to humans and those threats are the revived. Any revived who are voting for me do so wisely as I am out to get you. Any town voting for me shoudl seriously think about the fact that I am more useful to you. Also, please keep in mind I have already met my WC so I am acting purely altruistically at this point. As I said from the outset, I am here to help humans and no-one else.

[betiko]

@PCM - I have never lied. If you care to show me a post you are concerned about then I am happy to explain more.

@Betico - I killed Nendreel after targeting Nendreel as I alluded to before doing. It does raise an important issue though. I believe town needs to discuss who I should remove from this point on in. In my view, I need to remove the threats to humans and those threats are the revived. Any revived who are voting for me do so wisely as I am out to get you. Any town voting for me shoudl seriously think about the fact that I am more useful to you. Also, please keep in mind I have already met my WC so I am acting purely altruistically at this point. As I said from the outset, I am here to help humans and no-one else.

lol all townies are revived (spiesr, saf, soundman) or zombie (rodion), try again.

[thehippo8]

@PCM - I have never lied. If you care to show me a post you are concerned about then I am happy to explain more.

@Betico - I killed Nendreel after targeting Nendreel as I alluded to before doing. It does raise an important issue though. I believe town needs to discuss who I should remove from this point on in. In my view, I need to remove the threats to humans and those threats are the revived. Any revived who are voting for me do so wisely as I am out to get you. Any town voting for me shoudl seriously think about the fact that I am more useful to you. Also, please keep in mind I have already met my WC so I am acting purely altruistically at this point. As I said from the outset, I am here to help humans and no-one else.

lol all townies are revived (spiesr, saf, soundman) or zombie (rodion), try again.

Sorry? Are you suggesting that there are no pure townies left? That makes no sense. Maybe I was not clear. I see a difference between townies which have not died and been revived and those which have (let's call them townies and zombies). I guess this could best be described as a cult versus town game rather than scum versus town game. Is that clearer?

[spiesr]

Sorry? Are you suggesting that there are no pure townies left? That makes no sense. Maybe I was not clear. I see a difference between townies which have not died and been revived and those which have (let's call them townies and zombies). I guess this could best be described as a cult versus town game rather than scum versus town game. Is that clearer?

4 people have claimed to be "Town," all of them have been killed and revived.
Anyhow, Vote Hippo, he seems to be the biggest threat right now and will hopefully die this time.

[rishaed]

We have so many revived people that if it were a Cult v. Town game then town would have already lost. vote Hippo

[thehippo8]

@ Spiesr and Rishaed - given your positions I expect nothing less. However, Rishaed in particular, who do you say (aside from me - which I dispute) are threats to town?

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betiko: 1 vote; DoomYoshi
thehippo8: 4 votes; soundman, pancakemix, spiesr, rishaed
DoomYoshi: 2 votes; Rodion, betiko



with 12 alive it takes 6 to lynch, deadline next sunday