[Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Endgame

[jonty125]

Those tap dancing elephants kept me up all last night! and when I finally got to sleep, I lost my ability to comminuicate with Yog-Sothoth

[pancakemix]

oh, PCM, I think you never confirmed this. please list us all zombie-revived before the formula worked. I think you got doom twice and rodion. who were your other targets?

Dpoom twice, Rodion twice. At least that was my impression. I never got any actual confirmation. Whether or not the post-perfection revived are zombies remains to be seen.

[pancakemix]

oh, PCM, I think you never confirmed this. please list us all zombie-revived before the formula worked. I think you got doom twice and rodion. who were your other targets?

Dpoom twice, Rodion twice. At least that was my impression. I never got any actual confirmation. Whether or not the post-perfection revived are zombies remains to be seen.

To clarify that, I don't know if they're zombies or not.

[betiko]

oh, PCM, I think you never confirmed this. please list us all zombie-revived before the formula worked. I think you got doom twice and rodion. who were your other targets?

Dpoom twice, Rodion twice. At least that was my impression. I never got any actual confirmation. Whether or not the post-perfection revived are zombies remains to be seen.

To clarify that, I don't know if they're zombies or not.

really looks like you're covering your creatures PCM... how would you not know?

jonty, you're batshit insane. I guess that was a pretty complicated PR. It's been 2_3 days since you send 1 liners and don't reply to the questions/accusations adressed to you nor you participate in conversations. keeping a low profile for some ugly reason?

evereyone's got his vote/body today humans?

[jonty125]

jonty, you're batshit insane. I guess that was a pretty complicated PR. It's been 2_3 days since you send 1 liners and don't reply to the questions/accusations adressed to you nor you participate in conversations. keeping a low profile for some ugly reason?

I had great fun with an inflatable dartboard, yesterday, and I've responded to all accusations made towards me.

[spiesr]

Ok here are my thoughts on the matter, Jak claimed they had 4/5 culties. I can rule out me, betiko, the revived townies and hippo as culties, but We have Witt , Doom(dead), and probably 2 others humans that haven't been found yet. PCM/jonty haven't been killed and I would suggest jonty as my first person of interest so. . . vote Jonty
On another note, the lynch on hippo didn't go through but by his last reaction he CAN be lynched if i read it right, why else would he be worried if the votes were tied?

Okay, for the cult situation it appears that they made three recruitments, on Nights 2, 3, & 4. Nights 2 and 4 appeared to be of humanoid targets while Night 3 was not. With Doom dead that leaves Commander and possibly one other person as cult members. Vodean may or may not have used his ability to align himself with them, but it doesn't matter anymore.

oh, PCM, I think you never confirmed this. please list us all zombie-revived before the formula worked. I think you got doom twice and rodion. who were your other targets?

If the night scenes are accurate then we are left to assume that those revived before the formula was perfected were Doom and Rodion on Nights 2 & 4 and both of them again on Night 5.

Betiko, I am in possession of my own body.

[spiesr]

Ah, there you go. No, it's a story about some twit who killed himself unecessarily (a la Romeo and Juliet) but nevermind. The point I was making was that there is nothing in Lovecraft that is good about zombies - period. There is plenty about the afterlife and the effects of the supernatural on the dead and the living. Rodion was dead. Revived is still dead but a puppet and dangerous to humans. Rodion lost being human. And town loses by countenancing it. Hope that is clearer for you.

Hippo, please explain how (using only in game resources) you are able to tell what effects being a zombie had on Rodion's alignment/win condition. When he died he was listed as "Zombified Town Tracker" and Doom was listed as Doom was listed as "Cult Zombie." Apart from Rodion being listed in Green as opposed to Blue there was nothing at all to indicate that thier alignments had changed at all due to being zombies. I mean, clearly it was an important element to their current state, but I just don't understand how you came to the conclusions you did about it's effects.

Also Hippo, can you please remind me what extactly your win condition is and what you are playing towards here? You have alternately claimed to be helping Town or helping Humans. These aren't exactly the same thing, in the sense that people with the role of Human were third party survivors with the ability to hitch their alignments to different factions. Town on the other hand does not have it's players listed as Human, even though they seem to all have been members of the human species. So, please explain to me again how your actions have helped each of these two groups and what you plan to do now that all of the zombies are dead.

[betiko]

ok it's pretty clear to me. targeting little witt tonight would be a bad idea because I would misskill like I did with kanin if ever he takes a body. Unless someone shows up and tells me he is not in his body today and NG confirms he is not the abductor. WItt cannot be vigged, it's too dangerous therefore I'm up to kill cult. He is most likely the last cult anyway, and there are most likely no more zombies.

vote witt 2.0

[rishaed]

Those tap dancing elephants kept me up all last night! and when I finally got to sleep, I lost my ability to comminuicate with Yog-Sothoth

Is that a permanent condition or is that just for today? Because most sleep actions are just for that Night/Day cycle, but this sounds more like for the rest of the game, which IMHO sounds harsh for a sleep action.

[jonty125]

Those tap dancing elephants kept me up all last night! and when I finally got to sleep, I lost my ability to comminuicate with Yog-Sothoth

Is that a permanent condition or is that just for today? Because most sleep actions are just for that Night/Day cycle, but this sounds more like for the rest of the game, which IMHO sounds harsh for a sleep action.

Everything is permanent in a temporary world.

[new guy1]

ok it's pretty clear to me. targeting little witt tonight would be a bad idea because I would misskill like I did with kanin if ever he takes a body. Unless someone shows up and tells me he is not in his body today and NG confirms he is not the abductor. WItt cannot be vigged, it's too dangerous therefore I'm up to kill cult. He is most likely the last cult anyway, and there are most likely no more zombies.

vote witt 2.0

I am not the abductor. I am in nobodies body.

[betiko]

ok it's pretty clear to me. targeting little witt tonight would be a bad idea because I would misskill like I did with kanin if ever he takes a body. Unless someone shows up and tells me he is not in his body today and NG confirms he is not the abductor. WItt cannot be vigged, it's too dangerous therefore I'm up to kill cult. He is most likely the last cult anyway, and there are most likely no more zombies.

vote witt 2.0

I am not the abductor. I am in nobodies body.

good, and you'd better not till endgame because it could only get you misskilled. did you have any conversation with witt last night? did he tell you if he planned on taking someone's body? I'm pretty sure he didn't, because if someone got abducted and is not saying it he could be misskilled if people agree on lynching the last cult, but it seems like I'm the only one to think so so far.

[rishaed]

I have an idea if you guys are willing to listen. It should endgame/eradicate cult tonight/tommorow. First we lynch Witt today, Hippo vigs Jonty tonight, and Betiko (vigs?) PCM. It would hit every suspected cult character except maybe Betiko, but I clear betiko b/c he (vig'd?) Doom, at which point we know that cult is still active. If that doesn't endgame us we lynch Hippo tomorrow. With any luck we will hit the SK if he is still alive. So vote Witt. If anyone sees any flaws in this please say so. . .

[new guy1]

I see a flaw. I was told last night that witt is in someone else's body, but he did not tell me who he possessed.This means that someone is trapped in Kanin's old body, and Witt is in someone else's. That is all I know.

[rishaed]

D: that's too bad. . . unvote. Well its not me i got "Jailed" when i went to sleep.

[betiko]

I see a flaw. I was told last night that witt is in someone else's body, but he did not tell me who he possessed.This means that someone is trapped in Kanin's old body, and Witt is in someone else's. That is all I know.

kanin's soul and kanin's body are both dead, I killed them both, chap was the one trapped in his body and died when I killed him the second time. If witt is in someone's body, I see no reason why the posessed wouldn't speak up. who didn't show up yet today, soundman and saf. we just need both of them to confirm they are "themselves" to avoid an ugly misskill.

rishaed are you planning on killing me tonight with that nice little setup?

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[new guy1]

Oh, well witt thought his body was dead... I guess he was wrong:P.

[rishaed]

I see a flaw. I was told last night that witt is in someone else's body, but he did not tell me who he possessed.This means that someone is trapped in Kanin's old body, and Witt is in someone else's. That is all I know.

kanin's soul and kanin's body are both dead, I killed them both, chap was the one trapped in his body and died when I killed him the second time. If witt is in someone's body, I see no reason why the posessed wouldn't speak up. who didn't show up yet today, soundman and saf. we just need both of them to confirm they are "themselves" to avoid an ugly misskill.

rishaed are you planning on killing me tonight with that nice little setup?

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No, why? I don't see you as Cult, and I wouldn't want to give you another night if you are the SK. I'd rather lynch you right now if that were true. So vigging you wouldn't be all that helpful, and even though you could be the SK. . . (all those kills). And why would you think if I *cough* would choose you if I was the SK? Makes me wonder about you? It's as if you know something about the SK that you aren't telling the rest of us.
fp'd

[betiko]

Oh, well witt thought his body was dead... I guess he was wrong:P.

why would he think such thing?

one night i targeted chap -> result was kanin killed (in chap's body most likely)
next night I target chap -> chap is killed in a yith body (kanin's most likely)

how could that be witt/commander's body and not kanin? it wouldn't make sense, unless witt comes up and gives an explanation which I'm ready to hear.
NG, you just need to survive till endgame from what I know yet you seem to try save witt's ass through what appear to be a ig pile of made up crap. How come now you've been told witt is in another body when each other day you told us you didn't know if your buddies took bodies or not as they didn't tell you? One day you need other yith to tell you in advance what they do, the next / gives you the intel? ugly slip!!

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[betiko]

I see a flaw. I was told last night that witt is in someone else's body, but he did not tell me who he possessed.This means that someone is trapped in Kanin's old body, and Witt is in someone else's. That is all I know.

kanin's soul and kanin's body are both dead, I killed them both, chap was the one trapped in his body and died when I killed him the second time. If witt is in someone's body, I see no reason why the posessed wouldn't speak up. who didn't show up yet today, soundman and saf. we just need both of them to confirm they are "themselves" to avoid an ugly misskill.

rishaed are you planning on killing me tonight with that nice little setup?

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No, why? I don't see you as Cult, and I wouldn't want to give you another night if you are the SK. I'd rather lynch you right now if that were true. So vigging you wouldn't be all that helpful, and even though you could be the SK. . . (all those kills). And why would you think if I *cough* would choose you if I was the SK? Makes me wonder about you? It's as if you know something about the SK that you aren't telling the rest of us.
fp'd

I'm just trying to figure out what you WC could be (or the SK's, as it's most likely you or jonty..). I guess I'm not the only one who would get paranoid in those cases lol

[rishaed]

Where's the rest of the gang???!! I mean PCM Saf and all the others who have yet to post?

[betiko]

pcm has posted. it's saf and soundman who are missing, not very surprising as they have barely participated throughout this game; and they are much needed to know if they have thier bodies. i'd also like witt to defend himself.

By the way, rishaed your plan doesn't work this way cause if someone has to indeed kill pcm it's hippo as he doesn't care if he docs himself, don't think he has anyone to protect unless he needs t do some kind of thing with a zombie..

[pancakemix]

oh, PCM, I think you never confirmed this. please list us all zombie-revived before the formula worked. I think you got doom twice and rodion. who were your other targets?

Dpoom twice, Rodion twice. At least that was my impression. I never got any actual confirmation. Whether or not the post-perfection revived are zombies remains to be seen.

To clarify that, I don't know if they're zombies or not.

really looks like you're covering your creatures PCM... how would you not know?

jonty, you're batshit insane. I guess that was a pretty complicated PR. It's been 2_3 days since you send 1 liners and don't reply to the questions/accusations adressed to you nor you participate in conversations. keeping a low profile for some ugly reason?

evereyone's got his vote/body today humans?

I have no reason to cover the zombies. If anything, they're a threat to me, as I've stated numerous times. I'm only going off of what those two said. If you want to double check that you're welcome to look. I'm telling you I got no notification of whether or not my action was a success apart from the scenes and when we achieved perfection. We were both targeting people (sans the nights I was a captive mind), so it could have gone to either choice I'm not the one who revived the players post-perfection, that was Nendreel. I didn't think he should, but I guess he wanted something to do. I knew nothing of whether or not it would zombify anyone. I don't know if Nendreel did either. You'd have to ask those revived, and I doubt they'd tell you they're zombies.

And before you ask why I don't know these things, a) I don't determine how my role is structured and b) I could have asked Nendreel, but I didn't see a need to because we had won. If he wanted to tell you he could have, but hippo killed him, which he seemed to pretend was an act of good faith towards town or something.

[new guy1]

Betiko, I didnt make an ugly slip. I didnt know the actions because I posted them and then the mails got deleted. I knew about witt because I messaged him and asked and he was there to tell me about it, while commander (my only teamate for the past 2 days or something like that) never responded to any mails. Also, / didnt tell me what they did, they tell me what they did. Sometimes they responded, other times they didnt. Its simply communication. And also, if I were covering for witt, then why would I tell you anything? I could have just as easily posted that I hadnt talked to him and that I didnt know the whereabouts of his mind. You think everything's a slip

[rishaed]

Of course he does hes Paranoid remember. . . >.>