Time Warp Mafia Endgame: Town Wins

[new guy1]

I wouldnt say he's finding out, because he knew nobody wanted to do it so he must have predicted it was a possibility. Im not voting for edoc as I know (and you probably can tell from my past meta) I say dumb shit on day one and get more shit for it, so I can understand that he was trying to get the game moving and it ended badly because of his wording. Therefore, I will just keep my vote where it is. I do agree with ghost however that he did go completely 180 on the meta of Betiko, but at this point it seems he will get lynched with or without my vote.

[ghostly447]

Its not that he said it, its that he completely messed up Betiko's meta when he has meta on basically everyone and has experienced Betiko's first hand.

[Iron Butterfly]

I would rather die then even bother claiming for the crap that you three think you can pull.

A. Both of my subjects directly OMGUSed. This completely validates my claim that they are the worst players in the game and use little logic for their votes
B. IB, your point is invalid. Idgaf that there is a "case" of jokes on vode, it's irrelevant to my opinion. Call me a Liar if you can, Who has the worst Meta for saying things at the worst of times, and forcing us to hang them?
C.

i'll vote edoc for playing more out of character.

Wtf? This is totally withing my meta. I'm a dick, and I will always sacrifice another player then myself in RL.

Actually it seems you are the one who has said the worst thing, which ruins your premise on both Betiko and Vodean.

The goal is not to lynch unless we have some certainty that we are lynching scum. We all know on day one that is very hard but not impossible.

Unless you claim you will most likely be lynched. If you want to play to your meta by being a dick, well that's your right and only will only reinforce your meta. Why you revel in your dickishness is beyond me but who am I to dictate your play style.

Contrary to what some players have expressed about day one claims I for one believe day one claims are very important. They supply a starting point to focus on for a variety of reasons.

Edocsil you know what is needed. What happens to you is on your shoulders.

[pancakemix]

Contrary to what some players have expressed about day one claims I for one believe day one claims are very important. They supply a starting point to focus on for a variety of reasons.

I'd agree with this sentiment but there is a danger of falling into a mass claim if it gets out of hand. It's better to take the info you have sometimes and NL (not an option here, but my point stands).

I'd agree that edoc's only course of action now is to claim. It probably won't save him, but it'll give him the chance.

[DoomYoshi]

Vote Count


vodean (1) - edoc
edoc (5) - betiko, Iron Butterfly, vodean, ghostly, anon. L-2
soundman (1) - new guy1
soundman (1) - Nendreel
betiko (1) - jonty125

Not Voting - , NoSurvivors, gregwolf121, Kanin, pancakemix, soundman

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch (or a majority at deadline).
Deadline is Tomorrow!

5 players without a vote.
This means 10 players agree to have edocsil lynched on Thursday.

[ghostly447]

Requesting a 24 hour extension on the deadline to allow edoc to actually claim and us to at the very least evaluate it.

[edocsil]

Betiko, you just used a circular argument. There is nothing random about my suggested lynch (also for the record, I would chose vodean over you, you tend to be a far calmer player. I suggested a culling of the weak so to speak. If I wanted a RL I would have just unvoted and let the night come. If I was scum, that's what I should do anyhow. A RL favors scum and everyone fucking knows it. I want to stop a RL at all costs.

Lulwut? Betiko is not a calm player. He ALWAYS jumps at the first sign of a case on him. The game I remember most is Arkham where he claimed bomb. He got such a strong case on him BECAUSE he got pissed at the first sign of a case and started going off on errbody. So with that I Vote Edoc for knowing the only cases today will be made of meta, but yet messing up on the meta of another player by goign 180 degrees in the wrong direction. I dont know why, but you arent seeming like the same player either Edoc. Something jsut doesnt feel right here. Call it my gut, but for whatever reason you just dont seem to be following your meta.

Lol. Calmer than vode? Of course he is Its not saying much, but I think betio is the better of the two. Vode is just scummy. All the time. So here is how this is going to go.

A. I won't claim. There is no point really. We all know this is a power mafia. You know I have a good role, and if I am scum I have a simple, impossible to disprove fake. No night actions to verify, nothing. There is nothing I could claim that I could use to prove my innocence. If I was scum, I would just claim doc, force a CC and laugh at you all.

B. A Question to all of you claiming I am out of my meta. How so? What Is my Meta? How am I acting different from it? If you don't give me a clear answer I will tell you what I believe what my meta to be, but you all can see the bias in that.

C. Jesus. Look at this quote. Read it thoroughly. This is the only part of my argument i cannot afford you to skim.

There is nothing random about my suggested lynch (also for the record, I would chose vodean over you, you tend to be a far calmer player.

What does this say. It says that of the two Betico is calmer the Vodean. Not that Betico is calm. Nice job ghostly and others.

[Nendreel]

Interesting, looks like there is a vote manipulator in play. Edoc seems to have gotten an anonymous vote.

[new guy1]

Very nice eyes, I completely looked over it, Im guessing a double voter.

[edocsil]

Fast posted quite a bit.

Contrary to what some players have expressed about day one claims I for one believe day one claims are very important. They supply a starting point to focus on for a variety of reasons.

I'd agree with this sentiment but there is a danger of falling into a mass claim if it gets out of hand. It's better to take the info you have sometimes and NL (not an option here, but my point stands).

I'd agree that edoc's only course of action now is to claim. It probably won't save him, but it'll give him the chance.

Hence why I am more likely to just give the finger, see my above argument. I have fairly definitively proven my points, and show how all of those voting me are wrong or misguided. If that isn't enough, my claim won't help. I'll point the blame as I see fit before I die. I can guess a few of the people on the wagon who are town, and frankly should be embarrassed of themselves, I can also name one person who I can be sure is scum to a fair degree of certainty. However, I doubt I can steer the wagon at them within 24 hours.

Can anyone give me a truly compelling reason to claim? I throw you a few bones here.

I am town power.
I am not the doc.
I am of limited use and possibly abused by the scum if my exact role is known.

I can't really give much else then that.

[edocsil]

Very nice eyes, I completely looked over it, Im guessing a double voter.

Yes, and if it isn't ghostly's it's a scum DV/secret voter so be careful.

[new guy1]

Well, give me the player you think is scum, and since Im not going for your case, I will put my vote on them. That way, if town decides to lynch you, no harm no foul. If we decide we will pursue him, it's one less vote that you must gather to turn it around.

[ghostly447]

Unvote Vote NoS. Well defended Edoc. I havent seen NoS post so far, and the last time I didnt see him posting, he was mafia GF (if I do recall. IF I am correct then it was a pirate one).

[edocsil]

Well, give me the player you think is scum, and since Im not going for your case, I will put my vote on them. That way, if town decides to lynch you, no harm no foul. If we decide we will pursue him, it's one less vote that you must gather to turn it around.

IB. He is really the one person I didn't expect to get on the wagon. I can't legitimately tell you to hang him for a pure gut instinct, but if I had a inv/block/other toys I personally would be inclined to it on him tonight.

[new guy1]

I will vote IB like I said I would.