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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby gregwolf121 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:59 am

yes i do wish to defend myself, so i am britta perry one-shot town doc, and no i have not used my power yet because it is rather limited and i haven't seen anyone in need of protection yet,
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby spiesr on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:25 am

gregwolf121 wrote:yes i do wish to defend myself, so i am britta perry one-shot town doc, and no i have not used my power yet because it is rather limited and i haven't seen anyone in need of protection yet,
Yeah, I am not buying that claim at all I am afraid. I will be holding my vote for the moment though as I am not ready for the Day to end quite yet. We still have 3(!) players who haven't posted yet this Day. While Commander and Witt are likely to be perpetual dead weight Metsfanmax has been sufficiently active in other games. Did he just forget about this one or something? Can we get a prod on him aage?
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby blakebowling on Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:43 am

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Yeah, I am not buying that claim at all I am afraid. I will be holding my vote for the moment though as I am not ready for the Day to end quite yet. We still have 3(!) players who haven't posted yet this Day. While Commander and Witt are likely to be perpetual dead weight Metsfanmax has been sufficiently active in other games. Did he just forget about this one or something? Can we get a prod on him aage?

I'm not buying the claim either, flavor wise something like a mayor or governor would make more sense (britta is always into her causes). One-shot doc is too underpowered anyway IMO. I'm not going to place my vote on you yet (to avoid a quick hammer), but I intend to before the day is over. In the meantime, if anyone else has something they need to say today, speak up now.
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:51 am

Honestly I'm always uneasy about lynching a doc claim.

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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby blakebowling on Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:55 am

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Honestly I'm always uneasy about lynching a doc claim.

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I get that, which is why I've waited. I understand that mislynching here is bad, however I don't think it's a mislynch. I'm still open to be convinced otherwise, though.
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby jonty125 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:17 am

1-shot doc seems very underpowered. Gregwolf, is your action 1-shot, in that you may use it on one night and one night only or that you can only have one success with it.
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby anamainiacks on Tue Feb 19, 2013 6:28 am

Like the others have said, a 1-shot doc does seem rather underpowered, especially for Britta Perry, one of the 7 core characters of the series. Additionally, I'm not sure what about her character would convey such a role. But how many solid roles can there be to appropriately fill the 7 core characters?
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby aage on Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:10 am

spiesr wrote:Can we get a prod on him aage?

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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby Metsfanmax on Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:10 am

gregwolf121 wrote:yes i do wish to defend myself, so i am britta perry one-shot town doc, and no i have not used my power yet because it is rather limited and i haven't seen anyone in need of protection yet,


This power does seem rather strange but there is no way Britta is not in this game and I find it very unlikely that she is not town. So unless someone counterclaims I am not voting greg.
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby anamainiacks on Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:33 am

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gregwolf121 wrote:yes i do wish to defend myself, so i am britta perry one-shot town doc, and no i have not used my power yet because it is rather limited and i haven't seen anyone in need of protection yet,

This power does seem rather strange but there is no way Britta is not in this game and I find it very unlikely that she is not town. So unless someone counterclaims I am not voting greg.

You make a fair point there. Do we have someone already assigned 'Britta Perry'? That would clear things up tremendously. But for now, unvote; though I still don't fully believe the claimed power for Britta.

Right now, I would like to hear from Hank. He has yet to justify his rationale for voting greg earlier. Right now he seems to be following the crowd's sentiment without providing any personal input.
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby gregwolf121 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 11:36 am

well, based on what it says i would assume it means 1 use,
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby Gustaf Wasa on Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:08 pm

anamainiacks wrote:Like the others have said, a 1-shot doc does seem rather underpowered, especially for Britta Perry, one of the 7 core characters of the series. Additionally, I'm not sure what about her character would convey such a role. But how many solid roles can there be to appropriately fill the 7 core characters?

Not only one of the core characters, but the main female character.The one who is always in a love-hate relationship with the main character (mostly hate, heh. Though I haven't seen the later seasons).
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby jonty125 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:10 pm

WIFOM - Maybe not all the 'core' characters are in the game. Maybe mafia were given 1 or 2 for fakeclaims.
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby spiesr on Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:22 pm

jonty125 wrote:WIFOM - Maybe not all the 'core' characters are in the game. Maybe mafia were given 1 or 2 for fakeclaims.
Or maybe there is no simple pattern as to which characters are scum. Until one of them turns up dead there is no way to know for sure.
I don't know much of anything about this game's flavor, my objections to gregwolf's claim are based on the role he claimed. I have reason to suspect this game has an actually doctor. As such I don't see why there would be a 1-Shot Doctor in addition to this. Accordingly, his claim looks to me like a poorly done fake, perhaps attempting to draw out the real Doctor. Anyhow, it looks like it is now clear to put my vote back. Vote gregwolf.
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby Metsfanmax on Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:02 pm

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jonty125 wrote:WIFOM - Maybe not all the 'core' characters are in the game. Maybe mafia were given 1 or 2 for fakeclaims.
Or maybe there is no simple pattern as to which characters are scum. Until one of them turns up dead there is no way to know for sure.
I don't know much of anything about this game's flavor, my objections to gregwolf's claim are based on the role he claimed. I have reason to suspect this game has an actually doctor. As such I don't see why there would be a 1-Shot Doctor in addition to this. Accordingly, his claim looks to me like a poorly done fake, perhaps attempting to draw out the real Doctor. Anyhow, it looks like it is now clear to put my vote back. Vote gregwolf.


I hate to have to point this out, but it's entirely possible he was lying about the one-shot nature of his doc ability to make himself appear a less attractive night kill to the mafia.
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby anamainiacks on Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:31 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
spiesr wrote:
jonty125 wrote:WIFOM - Maybe not all the 'core' characters are in the game. Maybe mafia were given 1 or 2 for fakeclaims.
Or maybe there is no simple pattern as to which characters are scum. Until one of them turns up dead there is no way to know for sure.
I don't know much of anything about this game's flavor, my objections to gregwolf's claim are based on the role he claimed. I have reason to suspect this game has an actually doctor. As such I don't see why there would be a 1-Shot Doctor in addition to this. Accordingly, his claim looks to me like a poorly done fake, perhaps attempting to draw out the real Doctor. Anyhow, it looks like it is now clear to put my vote back. Vote gregwolf.

I hate to have to point this out, but it's entirely possible he was lying about the one-shot nature of his doc ability to make himself appear a less attractive night kill to the mafia.

Well if he's a full-fledged doctor and lied about it, he's trading in attracting the mafia for attracting a lynch, which isn't entirely wise either.

Out of curiosity, what is this 'reason' you speak of, spiesr?
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby blakebowling on Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:46 pm

anamainiacks wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
spiesr wrote:
jonty125 wrote:WIFOM - Maybe not all the 'core' characters are in the game. Maybe mafia were given 1 or 2 for fakeclaims.
Or maybe there is no simple pattern as to which characters are scum. Until one of them turns up dead there is no way to know for sure.
I don't know much of anything about this game's flavor, my objections to gregwolf's claim are based on the role he claimed. I have reason to suspect this game has an actually doctor. As such I don't see why there would be a 1-Shot Doctor in addition to this. Accordingly, his claim looks to me like a poorly done fake, perhaps attempting to draw out the real Doctor. Anyhow, it looks like it is now clear to put my vote back. Vote gregwolf.

I hate to have to point this out, but it's entirely possible he was lying about the one-shot nature of his doc ability to make himself appear a less attractive night kill to the mafia.

Well if he's a full-fledged doctor and lied about it, he's trading in attracting the mafia for attracting a lynch, which isn't entirely wise either.

Out of curiosity, what is this 'reason' you speak of, spiesr?

Besides the obvious (out of two nights, there has only been one death)?
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby gregwolf121 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:37 am

well dont know what more i could say, but what i said was true
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby jonty125 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:20 am

Metsfanmax wrote:
spiesr wrote:
jonty125 wrote:WIFOM - Maybe not all the 'core' characters are in the game. Maybe mafia were given 1 or 2 for fakeclaims.
Or maybe there is no simple pattern as to which characters are scum. Until one of them turns up dead there is no way to know for sure.
I don't know much of anything about this game's flavor, my objections to gregwolf's claim are based on the role he claimed. I have reason to suspect this game has an actually doctor. As such I don't see why there would be a 1-Shot Doctor in addition to this. Accordingly, his claim looks to me like a poorly done fake, perhaps attempting to draw out the real Doctor. Anyhow, it looks like it is now clear to put my vote back. Vote gregwolf.


I hate to have to point this out, but it's entirely possible he was lying about the one-shot nature of his doc ability to make himself appear a less attractive night kill to the mafia.


In that case, the logic of Comm9 would have to be used LYNCH ALL LIARS!; but surely he [gregowolf] would come out and tells us about his bluff in this scenario where the pressure remains on him?
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby blakebowling on Wed Feb 20, 2013 7:51 am

jonty125 wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
spiesr wrote:
jonty125 wrote:WIFOM - Maybe not all the 'core' characters are in the game. Maybe mafia were given 1 or 2 for fakeclaims.
Or maybe there is no simple pattern as to which characters are scum. Until one of them turns up dead there is no way to know for sure.
I don't know much of anything about this game's flavor, my objections to gregwolf's claim are based on the role he claimed. I have reason to suspect this game has an actually doctor. As such I don't see why there would be a 1-Shot Doctor in addition to this. Accordingly, his claim looks to me like a poorly done fake, perhaps attempting to draw out the real Doctor. Anyhow, it looks like it is now clear to put my vote back. Vote gregwolf.


I hate to have to point this out, but it's entirely possible he was lying about the one-shot nature of his doc ability to make himself appear a less attractive night kill to the mafia.


In that case, the logic of Comm9 would have to be used LYNCH ALL LIARS!; but surely he [gregowolf] would come out and tells us about his bluff in this scenario where the pressure remains on him?

I'm going to give gregwolf a bit longer to fess up. If not, I simply don't believe his claim and am in favor of lynching him.
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby Little Witt on Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:44 am

blakebowling wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
spiesr wrote:
jonty125 wrote:WIFOM - Maybe not all the 'core' characters are in the game. Maybe mafia were given 1 or 2 for fakeclaims.
Or maybe there is no simple pattern as to which characters are scum. Until one of them turns up dead there is no way to know for sure.
I don't know much of anything about this game's flavor, my objections to gregwolf's claim are based on the role he claimed. I have reason to suspect this game has an actually doctor. As such I don't see why there would be a 1-Shot Doctor in addition to this. Accordingly, his claim looks to me like a poorly done fake, perhaps attempting to draw out the real Doctor. Anyhow, it looks like it is now clear to put my vote back. Vote gregwolf.


I hate to have to point this out, but it's entirely possible he was lying about the one-shot nature of his doc ability to make himself appear a less attractive night kill to the mafia.


In that case, the logic of Comm9 would have to be used LYNCH ALL LIARS!; but surely he [gregowolf] would come out and tells us about his bluff in this scenario where the pressure remains on him?

I'm going to give gregwolf a bit longer to fess up. If not, I simply don't believe his claim and am in favor of lynching him.

I second that. His claimed role seems way to weak for any character, and makes me believe 99% sure he is lying.

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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed Feb 20, 2013 9:29 am

jonty125 wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
spiesr wrote:
jonty125 wrote:WIFOM - Maybe not all the 'core' characters are in the game. Maybe mafia were given 1 or 2 for fakeclaims.
Or maybe there is no simple pattern as to which characters are scum. Until one of them turns up dead there is no way to know for sure.
I don't know much of anything about this game's flavor, my objections to gregwolf's claim are based on the role he claimed. I have reason to suspect this game has an actually doctor. As such I don't see why there would be a 1-Shot Doctor in addition to this. Accordingly, his claim looks to me like a poorly done fake, perhaps attempting to draw out the real Doctor. Anyhow, it looks like it is now clear to put my vote back. Vote gregwolf.


I hate to have to point this out, but it's entirely possible he was lying about the one-shot nature of his doc ability to make himself appear a less attractive night kill to the mafia.


In that case, the logic of Comm9 would have to be used LYNCH ALL LIARS!; but surely he [gregowolf] would come out and tells us about his bluff in this scenario where the pressure remains on him?


I fully disagree. If we had all reached the same conclusion I did, and then kept our mouths shut so as to keep the real town doc alive, then the lie would have been beneficial to town. That being said, I'm not 100% confident of my conclusion so I'm glad it didn't go that route. But now that people are on to him, for better or worse, I guess the jig is up for him. I still won't vote for him though. This is not WIFOM logic; it's just my guess that Britta has to be part of the game. For me, having her out would be equally as silly as not having Jeff in the game.
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby gregwolf121 on Wed Feb 20, 2013 11:58 am

i have nothing more to say i told you what i was told, i am britta perry one-shot town doc
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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby blakebowling on Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:00 pm

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Re: Community [12/13] Day three

Postby Gustaf Wasa on Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:00 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
spiesr wrote:
jonty125 wrote:WIFOM - Maybe not all the 'core' characters are in the game. Maybe mafia were given 1 or 2 for fakeclaims.
Or maybe there is no simple pattern as to which characters are scum. Until one of them turns up dead there is no way to know for sure.
I don't know much of anything about this game's flavor, my objections to gregwolf's claim are based on the role he claimed. I have reason to suspect this game has an actually doctor. As such I don't see why there would be a 1-Shot Doctor in addition to this. Accordingly, his claim looks to me like a poorly done fake, perhaps attempting to draw out the real Doctor. Anyhow, it looks like it is now clear to put my vote back. Vote gregwolf.


I hate to have to point this out, but it's entirely possible he was lying about the one-shot nature of his doc ability to make himself appear a less attractive night kill to the mafia.


In that case, the logic of Comm9 would have to be used LYNCH ALL LIARS!; but surely he [gregowolf] would come out and tells us about his bluff in this scenario where the pressure remains on him?


I fully disagree. If we had all reached the same conclusion I did, and then kept our mouths shut so as to keep the real town doc alive, then the lie would have been beneficial to town. That being said, I'm not 100% confident of my conclusion so I'm glad it didn't go that route. But now that people are on to him, for better or worse, I guess the jig is up for him. I still won't vote for him though. This is not WIFOM logic; it's just my guess that Britta has to be part of the game. For me, having her out would be equally as silly as not having Jeff in the game.


You assume that Britta must be in the game, Britta must be the one who claims to be Britta, Britta must be town as she is one of the core characters. And that Mafia have not been given fake-claims?

There are seven core characters in Community. By this reasoning, all seven would be here and would be sure-fire town, which gives town a big advantage in the case of claims.

Note that aage wrote this in the rules for this game: Watch those claims, because I don't want the flavour to interfere overly much with the game.

This is not to say that you are definitely wrong, but what I am saying is, we shouldn't use the flavor too much in this kind of reasoning. If I were aage I would use the flavor because I like Community, but not really as a structure. Come to think of it, Britta as a doctor? The girl who is the most likely to punch you in the face? That also speaks against flavor dictating roles.
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