betiko wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:anamainiacks wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:And you have now refused to acknowledge whether you received my gift on N2 in multiple consecutive posts, so Vote Betiko. I'll unvote when you respond.
betiko can't acknowledge it, because his gifts were stolen on N2. He wouldn't know if he had received any gifts that night.
He claims his gifts were stolen on N2. I find it way too improbable that on the same night two people who claimed town sent him a gift, his gifts mysteriously were stolen, thereby leaving him unable to vouch for us.
So my vote sticks.
Look at the timing. I said it straight away on day 3 that my gifts were stolen during the night. It would stink indeed if I had said that today.
It was a well-executed maneuver. You had nothing to lose by claiming your gifts were stolen, and everything to gain in the eyes of the town, in terms of credibility. It was a victimless crime; no one could have disputed your claim except by outing themselves as mafia. So I have absolutely zero reason to trust your claim that you got your gifts stolen, as there is no likely scenario in which anyone could have disproven you.
I think that claiming NOW that you sent me a gift on night 2 is just digging your own grave.
-You know perfectly that that night I said I got stolen
-You know the mechanics with witt, almost 100% cleared sent me a gift the same night gave me no notification of such thing
-You placed your vote on me for not acknowledging receiving your gift on night 2, what a laughable excuse knowing the above bullet point
Well, I still wanted to hear what you had to say about it. You didn't even acknowledge that I was saying it, which is unfortunate because my gift giving is one of the ways to clear my name. But yes, I'll admit that I no longer need an excuse to keep my vote on you. Notice that you
didn't even respond to the amazing coincidence in that both you and chuck had your votes on me, and then both switched to soundman with mere hours to go. That's presumably because you have no answer, so you're falling back to attacks on my play style. And while I admit that I haven't played optimally over D3 and D4 so far, that's pretty weak given the stakes that are being faced on today's lynch.
-You mentioned one post after another your night actions instead of a straight forward post all in, as someone making stuff up on the go
Let's suppose I was making this all up. Do you really think I'm not smart enough to have just made it all up at once? Give me some credit here. But besides that, I stated all the information I needed to state at the time. There's never any reason to give away information people aren't asking for, except in situations where you, say, know the identity of scum through investigation.
-You didn't give straight away your night 1 gift recipient pretexting that he was already dead (convenient). But if he is dead, it was usefull info no matter what and there was absolutely no reason not to, you were just winning time.
Exactly, it
is potentially useful info because it can be perhaps used to make sense of earlier days. And that's also why I'm not going to just throw the information away until the right time, e.g. someone asks and it's relevant.
If we have to lynch chuck today, I will do it. But I'm 100% convinced that betiko is mafia, and if he's the godfather or equivalent, I want to kill him immediately. Killing chuck tonight removes their rolecop ability, which became useless as soon as everyone massclaimed.
(Though sorry, I still find you pretty suspicious!)
