pancakemix wrote:No, I'm actually curious because I saw you visit chuck (actually me) last night. So I'm trying to figure out if you're making things up and letting edoc get pushed for no good reason.
So, you are claiming to have watched Chuck last night and saw Nebuchadnezer visit him? Did anybody else show up?
Rishaed (as he claimed) and myself (I watched myself watch myself due to rish's bus.
I should be more clear: I'm not claiming I got the watch as a gift. I'm a watcher, Rigger, (Yo Ho, A Pirate's Life)
Honestly, I think the points where edoc implied he wasn't a vig are damning to his claim. Good on spiesr for pointing that out. I'd like to hear that addressed.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 10:20 pm
by Nebuchadnezer
pancakemix wrote:
spiesr wrote:
pancakemix wrote:No, I'm actually curious because I saw you visit chuck (actually me) last night. So I'm trying to figure out if you're making things up and letting edoc get pushed for no good reason.
So, you are claiming to have watched Chuck last night and saw Nebuchadnezer visit him? Did anybody else show up?
Rishaed (as he claimed) and myself (I watched myself watch myself due to rish's bus.
I should be more clear: I'm not claiming I got the watch as a gift. I'm a watcher, Rigger, (Yo Ho, A Pirate's Life)
Honestly, I think the points where edoc implied he wasn't a vig are damning to his claim. Good on spiesr for pointing that out. I'd like to hear that addressed.
Okay, Watcher...let's see all your actions, please...
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:06 am
by pancakemix
N1: Hank. No visitors. Hinted at it earlier (and by "hinted" I mean "outright blurted it out"):
pancakemix wrote:Anyone else think it's strange that the mafia didn't even go after the claimed doc? I mean, yeah, WIFOM and all that, but really...
N2: Blocked, as spiesr claims.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:59 am
by thechuck51
Nebuchadnezer wrote:I did not lie. Think about it. Kanin gave me the tracker ability...that's what his role did. Pancake didn't lie either. I'm not sold on edoc.s claim. It's a convenient way for him to get night kills, without added suspicion. However, I can let him slide for now.
so what were you doing visiting me?
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:55 am
by jonty125
Vote Count edocsil (2) - thechuck51; rishaed;
With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch, deadline is Thursday 14 March @ 1600 GMT. If the vote count were to remain the same until deadline, edocsil will be lynched.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:00 pm
by gregwolf121
pancake who did you try to watch on N2
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:00 pm
by Nebuchadnezer
thechuck51 wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:I did not lie. Think about it. Kanin gave me the tracker ability...that's what his role did. Pancake didn't lie either. I'm not sold on edoc.s claim. It's a convenient way for him to get night kills, without added suspicion. However, I can let him slide for now.
so what were you doing visiting me?
I can tell you what I was NOT doing...I was NOT killing you.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:21 am
by spiesr
Nebuchadnezer wrote:I can tell you what I was NOT doing...I was NOT killing you.
But, what sort of action would you have where it would make sense to target Chuck last night?
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:10 am
by Nebuchadnezer
spiesr wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:I can tell you what I was NOT doing...I was NOT killing you.
But, what sort of action would you have where it would make sense to target Chuck last night?
I can't answer that without giving away my role.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:46 am
by rishaed
I think i figured it out though. Took a few hints for me to catch it.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:34 am
by pancakemix
So let's break this down:
2. rishaed - Parker, Bodyguard (Alien) (inclined to believe him, told truth about bus) 7. pancakemix - Rigger, Watcher (Pirate's Life) (It's me. Confirmed by Neb) 10. spieser - Roleblocker (PKMN Ch. 2) (Did block me N2) 11. thechuck51 - Bus gifter (Rolegift 2) (Confirmed) 5. edocsil - Vilkas, 2-shot vig (Skyrim) (Sems sketchy. Blocked and no kill, claimed vig and spoke in hypotheticals about it before)
8. crazymilkshake5 replaced by Nebuchadnezer - unclaimed (Didn't lie about visiting chuck, so may or may not be trustworthy. I'm inclined to think he is.) 6. gregwolf121 - unclaimed (nothing)
Considering this, edoc is likely to be scum. Vote Edoc
Everyone remaining seems to be pretty airtight, at least as far as no one seems to be making anything up. That leaves greg as the last remaining unconfirmed. He seems to be scum by process of elimination unless somebody's fibbing.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:52 pm
by spiesr
I am in favor of lynching edoc'sil at this point. Is there anything else we need to cover before I hammer?
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 12:54 pm
by Nebuchadnezer
pancakemix wrote:So let's break this down:
2. rishaed - Parker, Bodyguard (Alien) (inclined to believe him, told truth about bus) 7. pancakemix - Rigger, Watcher (Pirate's Life) (It's me. Confirmed by Neb) 10. spieser - Roleblocker (PKMN Ch. 2) (Did block me N2) 11. thechuck51 - Bus gifter (Rolegift 2) (Confirmed) 5. edocsil - Vilkas, 2-shot vig (Skyrim) (Sems sketchy. Blocked and no kill, claimed vig and spoke in hypotheticals about it before)
8. crazymilkshake5 replaced by Nebuchadnezer - unclaimed (Didn't lie about visiting chuck, so may or may not be trustworthy. I'm inclined to think he is.) 6. gregwolf121 - unclaimed (nothing)
Considering this, edoc is likely to be scum. Vote Edoc
Everyone remaining seems to be pretty airtight, at least as far as no one seems to be making anything up. That leaves greg as the last remaining unconfirmed. He seems to be scum by process of elimination unless somebody's fibbing.
This is what I've been rattling around in my head the past few days. I can't honestly say that any of our claims don't add up. There are scenarios and suggestions that can be made with each of the claimed players, but they require leaps of faith (like, spiesr could really be a mafia roleblocker, and chose not to make a kill last night to set up edoc, or rishaed is not a bodyguard, as he refuses to be forthright with his information the next day, etc, etc.). Out of the players left, pancake and thechuck seem to have the best claims that have been backed up and verified.
So, I will go ahead and vote edoc. That'll be the hammer, so I hope I'm right on this.
FASTPOSTED by spiesr (sorry to steal your hammer...)
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 4:19 pm
by edocsil
You are of course. My faction only had 2 members and no abilities besides the kill. I contemplated just surrendering after the block, but I figured I had a shot. I didn't look at my early play when I was looking for a a fake, something that has proved to cost me. If the game isn't over with my death look at greg. I suspect there is a cult, so also look for players who have not been able to verify their last actions. I had hoped to steer the town towards that once I was clear of the current case, and become more of the "town" hero, but oh well.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 (7/12) Day Four
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 7:22 pm
by rishaed
edocsil wrote:You are of course. My faction only had 2 members and no abilities besides the kill. I contemplated just surrendering after the block, but I figured I had a shot. I didn't look at my early play when I was looking for a a fake, something that has proved to cost me. If the game isn't over with my death look at greg. I suspect there is a cult, so also look for players who have not been able to verify their last actions. I had hoped to steer the town towards that once I was clear of the current case, and become more of the "town" hero, but oh well.
Your initial post on the case after doom was well made. That alone convinced me that you were town. If it wasn't for the fact that you randomly voted chuck in the run-off I don't know if I would have ever voted you. So well played. I honestly think that we got extremely lucky with speisr's roleblocks in the last few Nights, but somehow thats how things work.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 Game Over!
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:49 am
by jonty125
edocsil - Jack (Mafia Goon) has been lynched.
rishaed - Parker (Town Bodyguard) has won gregwolf121 - Vanilla (Vanilla Townie) has won pancakemix - Rigger (Town Watcher) has won Nebuchadnezer - Doc (Town Doctor) has won spieser - Date Masamune (Town Roleblocker) has won thechuck51 - Busdrive Gifter (Busdrive Gifter) has won
Ooh! Spiesr good job blocking your killer N1! It really helped. (that and mafia botched their fakeclaims) I would have never suspected edoc. And I really did figure out that Neb was a Doc! So happy we didn't force his claim. That being said mafia was way under powered with so many protection roles in the mix
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 Game Over!
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:32 pm
by rishaed
Hmm and y did hank lie about his N1 action??
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 Game Over!
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:58 pm
by DoomYoshi
Good game all.
Watcher 2 doc and a bodyguard is an uphill battle for any mafia.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 Game Over!
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:38 pm
by Nebuchadnezer
Wow...quite a bit unbalanced for mafia. Good game!
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 Game Over!
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:14 am
by Iron Butterfly
So why is it i am Town and lose again? I was a VT with no powers. What is the sense of that?
Thank God I was killed day one.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 Game Over!
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 12:22 am
by spiesr
Two goons was really not balanced for the mafia. (At least with so many protective roles on the town side.) Edoc'sil was basically screwed once Doom Yoshi was lynched. His own hope would have been to come up with an absolutely airtight claim.
Iron Butterfly wrote:So why is it i am Town and lose again? I was a VT with no powers. What is the sense of that?
Thank God I was killed day one.
Unless your PM said otherwise I would assume you won when the rest of the town did.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 Game Over!
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 10:50 am
by jonty125
You didn't lose.
All dead town won as well. I forgot to put it in the scene.
Re: Best (Randomness) Of 2012 Game Over!
Posted: Tue Mar 12, 2013 11:16 am
by rishaed
Would have been interesting with more people. I think that eventually with more people it would have become more balanced.
Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 7:48 pm
