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Re: Money Mafia (9/20)

PostPosted: Sat Feb 16, 2013 6:40 pm
by aage
jak111 wrote:Regarding Aage's "critique" he seems to not be able to see all the strategies we as town or mafia can do to plan to catch/foil mafia/town. If you believe most of them are useless then you lost what the point behind them are.

Trackers and Watchers are "useless" in your terms in all games, until they see someone visiting the dead. I already have a few plans worked out to use each of these roles as a team in my head. Although if you are against me Aage, you make yourself seem an easy target without being able to formulate plans with the roles given.

You seem to misunderstand the problem.

In a regular game, the power roles stay the power roles. Doctors will always be doctors and cops will always be cops, VTs will always be VTs.

In this game, finding out someone did something gives you nothing.
If you're town, you will find out that people visited other people, which is obvious; players can (and will) use an action three out of four nights. This will provide you with no role info since scum and town have equally much access to these actions. "Oh, this person used an action... it appears that this person must be either town or scum. Thanks, Tracker action!"
If you're scum, this will be even more useless. As town you may actually chance upon a scum performing the NK, low as that chance may be. As scum, watching is normally useful because it allows you to track the power roles and kill them systematically. In this game, EVERYONE is a power role and therefore you would have to kill everyone. This defeats the point of tracking and watching them, since you already know who your priority target is: everyone!

This is why tracking and watching is useless in this setup.

Re: Money Mafia (10/20)

PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2013 5:18 pm
by soundman
I'm in!

Re: Money Mafia (11/20)

PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 10:04 pm
by spiesr
Re: aage
While watchers are trackers are somewhat less usefull in this game than in a standard one they still aren't entirely useless. A watcher can still catch a scum killing someone (unless the scum have an assassin action that they can purcahse or something). A tracker can do the same but with much lower certainty. They can also be used to help prevent the scum from lying about what they are doing at night as easily.
While these abilities aren't very useful to the scum, they still have to have access to them or the town could break the game by demanding that a certain player track another player. (Using a doc action that keep Player 2 alive.) If the scum didn't have tracking that stratgey seems like it would be nearly foolproof.

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Re: Money Mafia (12/20)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 8:57 am
by edocsil
I'm out. I'm tired of Mafia on this forum.

Re: Money Mafia (12/20)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:15 pm
by Rodion
edocsil wrote:I'm out. I'm tired of Mafia on this forum.


Understandable.

Re: Money Mafia (12/20)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:08 pm
by edocsil
Rodion wrote:
edocsil wrote:I'm out. I'm tired of Mafia on this forum.


Understandable.


I'm really frustrated ATM, all the games are so stagnant right now and I don't really see what can redone to improve the situation.

Re: Money Mafia (11/20)

PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:48 pm
by DoomYoshi
Mods could make me a treestump in every game and then I can guarantee high post volume all game long.

Re: Money Mafia (11/20)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 8:38 pm
by jak111
DoomYoshi wrote:Mods could make me a treestump in every game and then I can guarantee high post volume all game long.


^ Don't give me any ideas <.< I'll make you a stump alright... XD

But I am missing from sign-up list? D:

Re: Money Mafia (11/20)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:09 pm
by Rodion
jak111 wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Mods could make me a treestump in every game and then I can guarantee high post volume all game long.


^ Don't give me any ideas <.< I'll make you a stump alright... XD

But I am missing from sign-up list? D:


Fixed!

Re: Money Mafia (12/20)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 02, 2013 10:10 pm
by Rodion
edocsil wrote:
Rodion wrote:
edocsil wrote:I'm out. I'm tired of Mafia on this forum.


Understandable.


I'm really frustrated ATM, all the games are so stagnant right now and I don't really see what can redone to improve the situation.


Yep, that sucks. I'd go to mafia scum if they weren't so obnoxious.

Re: Money Mafia (12/20)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:45 am
by aage
edocsil wrote:
Rodion wrote:
edocsil wrote:I'm out. I'm tired of Mafia on this forum.


Understandable.


I'm really frustrated ATM, all the games are so stagnant right now and I don't really see what can redone to improve the situation.

I don't know if I prefer this or some other board I played at until recently. Days lasted 48 hours there. Never stagnates but never builds a case either.

Btw, I don't think anything can be done.

Re: Money Mafia (12/20)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:47 pm
by soundman
Leaving for Europe in about two weeks so I need to drop out of this one. Sorry.

Re: Money Mafia (12/20)

PostPosted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 1:50 pm
by Rodion
No problem. Enjoy!

Re: Money Mafia (11/20)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 6:11 am
by Shape
Can I play? I'm familiar with mafia as I've been taught by my uncle (and have played a little elsewhere on the Internet), so I shouldn't need coaching.

-Shape

Re: Money Mafia (12/20)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 12:54 pm
by Rodion
Sure you can!

Re: Money Mafia (12/20)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:04 pm
by Shape
Yay :D

-Shape

Re: Money Mafia (12/20)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:30 pm
by ben1212
In please

Re: Money Mafia (13/20)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:21 am
by Shape
Can we start soon? I'm eager! :D

-Shape

Re: Money Mafia (13/20)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:40 am
by Nendreel
This looks interesting, sign me up. :D

Re: Money Mafia (13/20)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:22 pm
by Rodion
Shape wrote:Can we start soon? I'm eager! :D

-Shape


Need 6 more applications.

Re: Money Mafia (13/20)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:36 pm
by Shape
Rodion wrote:
Shape wrote:Can we start soon? I'm eager! :D

-Shape


Need 6 more applications.

But that's gonna take foreverrrrrrrrr :(

-Shape

Re: Money Mafia (14/20)

PostPosted: Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:56 pm
by rishaed
Then sign up for a small game (like mine) *wink wink nudge nudge* which need only a few players.

Re: Money Mafia (14/20)

PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:49 am
by Shape
rishaed wrote:Then sign up for a small game (like mine) *wink wink nudge nudge* which need only a few players.

I would, but I don't want to be playing two games simultaneously. I don't want to over-commit when I've got school stuff.

-Shape

Re: Money Mafia (14/20)

PostPosted: Sun Mar 10, 2013 8:42 pm
by gregwolf121
hey rodion you can go ahead and bumb me up from reserves to active.

Re: Money Mafia (15/20) - need 5 more!

PostPosted: Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:02 pm
by ghostly447
Ill play.