Iron Butterfly wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:GAH! this fucking game moves too fast for me. You are right ghost, I was skimming. I didn't realize there was a page 5 and I thought my post was the first from the day.
Anyways, I am the seerin. I get to look at player's cards. I know the roles of aage and ghostly. That means of the last 4, we have a 0.75 chance of getting scum. I would rather start on the wagon than off, so 100% I am not switching from IB today.
That would not rule out that you joke voted as mafia and got extremely lucky that I started my day one case while aagee and ghostly band wagoned for a quick lynch, meaning the other two are mafia as well. Ghostlies only excuse is that he misread the vote count, which I find suspect.
If Doom is who he says and has cleared aagge and ghostly that does not automatically make me mafia. I have no trouble claiming.
Then shall I claim to keep the peace? I will confirm I am town and will back it up if need be. I dont know exactly why doom claimed though, and then said crap about it, but I didnt ask for his claim.
With that said, I still think aage's method of finding mafia would be good. This is a personal thing, because only really me, doom, and aage can confirm then that we are town, but since I know for a fact I am town I will go ahead with the day until someone requests a claim from me. So in my mind, doom is clear out of the 4 listed by aage, so that leaves dibbler, anamainiacks, and blake.
It may be nothing, but here goes. Dibbler and Blake start the day off joke voting each other, and not saying anymore that day. Dibbler comes in with the following (which I will make some thoughts on during your reread of this)
I will make it clear, I am seeing this from my perspective that I am cleared as well as aage and doomyoshi, so there may be assumed statements that make it seem like I am accusing. I am not doing such, but instead opening all possibilities to be looked into:
Dibbler wrote:Wow this game is moving way faster then the only other mafia game I was in. I was very busy this weekend and only had time for my normal games and no real time for Mafia so I was very surprised that we went from joke votes to a lynch in about 2 days.
I do feel that the swiftness of the lynch indicates a very high likely hood of werewolf involvement. So the main question I have is do we think it more likely that a werewolf would start the lynch or pile on? Personally i'm not sure Iron Butterfly is a werewolf. His argument for lynching feels much more like a first round stab in the dark looking for some reason to vote and I am far more suspicious of those who piled on then the one who started it. That doesn't completely rule out Iron Butterfly as werewolf but I'm more inclined to go after someone who piled on.
Ghostly notes: First paragraph, little bit of a reason for his absence, etc. Second Paragraph, Begins by stating the obvious that everyone already agrees with, blends in. semi-dismisses IB (remember this, I am coming back with it soon)
I have to give this more thought and re-read some posts.
Dibbler wrote:something that clears Doom a little for me is that his Jonty vote was during the joke phase and wasn't really part of the piling on. In fact that is the reason I think the last vote went so fast, Doom had voted and not unvoted, so I would suggest that it was only 4 votes that killed Jonti with one of those being Safari who is dead. I lean very heavily to either aage or ghostly now with some suspicion left for IB for leading the initial vote. What does the rest of the town think?
More notes: Very next post 12 minutes later, Subtly dismisses doomyoshi's presence in the wagon (perhaps attempting to attach to a towny so if he is lynched his scum mates can follow up with a lynched towny?) while giving a decent reason to do so, then inflicts the normal reaction throughout the game, "I would say saf, but he is dead" that we all have stated or would have prior to him posting it if we were on, then picks out 3 players. Aage, myself, and a little bit of IB. Aage and myself have been deemed clear, and I am still willing to claim if needed, which leaves IB who as I said before just above who is semi-dismissed. Dibbler goes from "It doesnt rule him out completely" to "with some suspicion left for IB". A subtle change in opinion, but it is present, and within 12 minutes a subtle change is considered peculiar in my book.
FOS Dibbler - First in line for my vote
FOS IB - Could be a simple association like doom, but there is a little extra association via the change in his opinion
FOS Blake - For being under the radar with the exception of a joke vote on D1 against dibbler
Lots of FOS's but get over it. lol