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Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (8/13) D4: Priestess Down

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 3:09 pm
by dazza2008
kgb007 wrote:
spiesr wrote:So, now we have a dead (fairly weak) power role. As such the existence of town power role is confirmed but we pretty much all knew that already.
So, kgb007, since you already outed yourself as a power role, did you get anything of value last night?


i did not..


Kind of did when you said.

kgb007 wrote:since this doesn't seem to be going anywhere, I know for a fact Stubbs did not visit gregwolf last night

Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (8/13) D4: Priestess Down

PostPosted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:05 pm
by spiesr
I assumed he was saying he did not find anything of value...

Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (8/13) D4: Priestess Down

PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:27 am
by dazza2008
spiesr wrote:I assumed he was saying he did not find anything of value...


Ah yeah. I see now. I took it he meant he did not hint at a power :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:59 am
by kgb007
glad that's straighten out, i could see how that could be confused but for the record, I did not find anything of value

Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (8/13) D4: Priestess Down

PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:10 pm
by new guy1
Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 1:35 pm
by kgb007
new guy1 wrote:Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?


i'm happy to answer that but before I do, can you explain why that's relevant?

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:22 pm
by new guy1
kgb007 wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?


i'm happy to answer that but before I do, can you explain why that's relevant?


So that you cant use other people's night actions in the future to mold your own, in the event you are scum.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:38 pm
by dazza2008
new guy1 wrote:
kgb007 wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?


i'm happy to answer that but before I do, can you explain why that's relevant?


So that you cant use other people's night actions in the future to mold your own, in the event you are scum.


What?

I don't see that there is any need for him to reveal his result unless he has something to go on.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:09 pm
by new guy1
dazza2008 wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
kgb007 wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?


i'm happy to answer that but before I do, can you explain why that's relevant?


So that you cant use other people's night actions in the future to mold your own, in the event you are scum.


What?

I don't see that there is any need for him to reveal his result unless he has something to go on.


I dont see why he needs a reason. The only people hes helping by revealing who he visited is town, as mafia most likely doesnt care who he visited.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 5:47 pm
by spiesr
dazza2008 wrote:
new guy1 wrote:
kgb007 wrote:
new guy1 wrote:Kgb, who did you visit last night, for reference?
i'm happy to answer that but before I do, can you explain why that's relevant?
So that you cant use other people's night actions in the future to mold your own, in the event you are scum.
What?

I don't see that there is any need for him to reveal his result unless he has something to go on.
Newguy wants him to reveal his actions now so that in case he is faking he will have a more difficult time coming up with fake actions whereas if he waits until other people claim stuff he could just say he saw them do that stuff. Of course the reverse is also true where if he is town and tracked a scum member then it makes it easier for them to fake claim if they know what he saw them do (or not do).

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:29 pm
by new guy1
Spies gets it, but while there are possible downsides, I feel like since he is the only semi-claimed role we might as well start piecing together who isnt getting visited and who is.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:45 am
by safariguy5
May also help figure out who kgb might have suspicions on should he turn up dead later. Not always the best of leads, but usually people with night actions pick targets for a reason.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 9:33 am
by kgb007
new guy1 wrote:I dont see why he needs a reason. The only people hes helping by revealing who he visited is town, as mafia most likely doesnt care who he visited.


i don't see the point of revealing my night action for N3, i claimed my N2 action but it still didn't clear stubbs and so how does it help town?

and why would you argue that mafia doesn't care who i visited?

spiesr wrote:Newguy wants him to reveal his actions now so that in case he is faking he will have a more difficult time coming up with fake actions whereas if he waits until other people claim stuff he could just say he saw them do that stuff. Of course the reverse is also true where if he is town and tracked a scum member then it makes it easier for them to fake claim if they know what he saw them do (or not do).


why would I be faking?? there was nothing to go on D3 so I offered up what I did N2, if I was scum, how would that benefit me?

we're not at LyLo scenario but if we don't get today right and lynch the wrong person, coupled with a successful N4 kill by scum, we're pretty much toast right?

in hindsight, I feel somewhat guilty/responsible for fircoal's lynch since I was one of the first to jump on it but in hindsight he was playing a pretty strong VT game, right??

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:37 pm
by new guy1
kgb007 wrote:
new guy1 wrote:I dont see why he needs a reason. The only people hes helping by revealing who he visited is town, as mafia most likely doesnt care who he visited.


i don't see the point of revealing my night action for N3, i claimed my N2 action but it still didn't clear stubbs and so how does it help town?

and why would you argue that mafia doesn't care who i visited?

spiesr wrote:Newguy wants him to reveal his actions now so that in case he is faking he will have a more difficult time coming up with fake actions whereas if he waits until other people claim stuff he could just say he saw them do that stuff. Of course the reverse is also true where if he is town and tracked a scum member then it makes it easier for them to fake claim if they know what he saw them do (or not do).


why would I be faking?? there was nothing to go on D3 so I offered up what I did N2, if I was scum, how would that benefit me?

we're not at LyLo scenario but if we don't get today right and lynch the wrong person, coupled with a successful N4 kill by scum, we're pretty much toast right?

in hindsight, I feel somewhat guilty/responsible for fircoal's lynch since I was one of the first to jump on it but in hindsight he was playing a pretty strong VT game, right??


He was. I argue mafia doesnt care because you made it pretty obvious who you are, and if you didnt catch them then they can play ball all day. Your argument that it wouldnt have benefited you to guide us can go both ways. Just in Rock and Roll mafia, I was lynched basically because I claimed when I didnt have to. I dont see how this is different, except you havent claimed, but youve given a pretty damning role description, and so the information being out there would suit town's best interest IMO.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:21 am
by kgb007
well i remain unconvinced so i'm going to hold off for now

Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (8/13) D4: Priestess Down

PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:25 am
by jonty125
No votes have been cast.

Deadline is Monday 7 October @ 1700 BST. (as before)

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:29 am
by Hensow
sorry when jonty couldn't end day 3 I stop checking for a start of day 4 time as stuff was happening so I just read through day 4
as to the matter of kgb saying who he targeted it entirely possible that kgb reviling will get the player night killed, I would well I'd probably kill kgb.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:47 am
by new guy1
Try not to post WIFOM Hensow. That can cause problems if the mafia were to kill kgb, because then heres your post right here saying "I'd probably kill kgb" *dramatic zoom in* "kill kgb" *one more for emphasis* "KGB".

Sarcasm's out of my system now. Okay kgb, I dont know why you're so tight lipped. If you were more than willing to share your NA, it would not have taken much convincing. But Ill let it go for now, because if I keep forcing it, this might go on too long (though I feel it already has). Does anyone else have information to go off of?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 9:33 am
by jonty125
Mass Prod. I think the downtime ate skillfusniper's post.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 10:38 am
by safariguy5
Well I'm going to take the silence to mean that nobody really has any information to go off of. I really don't think a no lynch is a good idea at this point, but I don't want to randomly pressure someone. I'll look back at the last few pages of posts to see if I can find a good reason to vote someone.

Re: Summer vs. Winter Mafia (8/13) D4: Priestess Down

PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 11:41 am
by spiesr
Alright, let's come up with something. I suggest that we start by having everybody explain their votes during Day 3's runoff period. I'll start.
I waited most of the 24 hour period to see how things were going to shape up so I could avoid throwing my vote away. After a while I concluded that either everyone else had the same idea or that they weren't going to vote before the deadline at all. Then I went ahead and voted for Stubbs for the same (admirably weak) suspicions that I had mentioned during the day.

Now, let's see what you guys have to say for yourselves.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:36 pm
by safariguy5
I voted for Fircoal mainly because he tried to pursue a case on me based on little to no evidence after the IB lynch.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:44 pm
by skillfusniper33
so for the post that was eaten by the website (I promise you I didn't delete it). I went back through the past 2 day's and couldn't come up with much for any new evidence. And I have been extremely busy over the past week and a half.

As for me not voting I came in with the lynch already being decided, and since my vote wouldn't count I decided against it. My vote would have been on stubbs (if I can remember my thought process correctly)

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 12:47 pm
by kgb007
I was one of the first to vote fircoal bc he was advocating lynching saf even though he admitted his case against saf was no longer relevant and bc he was so adament that lynch someone with no credible information to go on

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:13 pm
by new guy1
Sorry, havent been on for a couple days till now.

I voted fircoal mostly because I wasnt sure who to vote, but thought fircoal better than stubbz (cause of the weak case on saf).