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Postby Baron Von PWN on Mon Feb 18, 2013 10:29 am

Spring 03 Finally!

After many dellays we have spring 03! The Italians gum up the Turkish war machine, France and England do a lot of sitting around. Austria and Germany pool their resources to attack Russia. I think this will be an interesting
fall.

The orders
Austria:
A Budapest - Galicia
F Trieste, no move received
A Vienna Supports A Budapest - Galicia

England:
A London Hold
F North Sea - Skagerrak
F Norway Hold
A Yorkshire Hold

France:
A Brest Hold
A Marseilles Hold
F North Atlantic Ocean - Norwegian Sea
A Paris Hold
F Spain(sc) Hold

Germany:
F Berlin - Baltic Sea
A Denmark Hold
F Holland Hold
F Kiel - Denmark (*Fails*)
A Munich - Bohemia
A Silesia Supports A Budapest - Galicia

Italy:
A Apulia, no move received
F Eastern Mediterranean - Aegean Sea
F Ionian Sea Supports F Eastern Mediterranean - Aegean Sea
A Venice, no move received

Russia:
A Finland Supports F Sweden
A Galicia Supports A Warsaw (*Dislodged*)
F Rumania - Sevastopol
F Sweden Supports A Finland
A Ukraine - Rumania
A Warsaw Supports A Galicia

Turkey:
A Ankara - Constantinople (*Fails*)
F Bulgaria(sc) - Aegean Sea (*Fails*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria (*Fails*)
A Greece - Albania
A Serbia Hold
A Smyrna Hold

Russia has only one viable retreat option so

Russia
A Galicia - Ukraine

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Fall move orders due Next Monday May 20th!
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All rules can be found here https://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf

Our Factions

The United Kingdom ; The Greek Dog.
France: Neoteny
Austro-Hungarian Empire: Big Ballin Stalin.
Italy: Army of God
Russian Empire: Doom_Yoshi
Turkey: Funky Terrance
Germany: Just_Essence.
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You've read it in the rules; Diplomacy is where morality is nonexistent, and not backstabbing anyone means you lose. Worst idea ever, unless you're just lying to the world to get them to make a mistake, is to openly reveal your intentions.
How long would it take to convoy Greek's army to Trieste?
Alright, practicality first. Remember, if greek's army is ordered to convoy across four seas and reaches Trieste, but there's still an army there, and you have no armies/fleets adjacent to Trieste to support the convoy (since there's an enemy in the province you're trying to take over), it would be a waste of time; one army vs. one army results in a standoff, and greek's army stays where it was before the convoy.
Two, impossible to do in 1901 Spring/Fall phase, unless you had one more ally (Italy. Austria-Hungary would be pissed that you just invaded a home supply center). You and greek combined have three fleets total, and four fleets are needed to convoy an army there.
Three, even if you did have Italy as an ally, remember that this is like trench warfare, but with territories that are unoccupied. It's going to take some time to move all four fleets into position, and by that time, Austria-Hungary will be even more pissed and forming allies for a counterattack.
That, plus the fact that Italy, as a common opening move, immediately forms allies with Austria-Hungary (although only in preparation against the Ottoman Empire).

As a general conclusion: At any point in the game, don't feel afraid to backstab an ally. This is not CC, where backstabbing will earn you a one-star rating and secret diplomacy earns you a warning or a ban. Be careful of when you backstab, so you aren't becoming generally mistrusted. But if you don't backstab, it will lead to your defeat. This is a diplomatic simulation, not a military simulation; there is no chance, no dice, involved. If one army is greater in strength, it will beat the opposing army no matter what. The only true weapon of chance is if you trust your allies or not. So use diplomacy. If you're usually quiet in games, be prepared to become the opposite. This. Is. Diplomacy.

EDIT: One more note, in case you missed this in the instructions manual: Switzerland is not a playable territory. You cannot move troops onto there. Why? Because Switzerland is a nice place, it's been neutral in both World Wars, everyone likes the nation, and it will ruin your bank accounts if you try to invade it, along with calling up international sanctions.

Each turn (Diplomatic phase, movement phase, retreat/disband phase) represents one Spring (or Fall) Phase in a year (so every two turns, it's been a "year"). At the end of each year, you count how many "supply centers" you have. If you have more than you had since the beginning of the year, you make a (or several) new units (Armies/Fleets) to accomodate that. If you have less than you had since the beginning of the year, you disband the corresponding number of units (of your choice). If you have the same amount, nothing happens.
NOTE: You can only make new armies/fleets in your "Home Supply Centers", which are the centers you started out with at the beginning of the game. If the supply center's region is landlocked, you can only make a new Army. If it's on a coastline, you can make a new Fleet or a new Army.
However, if you (or another player) has occupied all of your "Home Supply Centers", well then, too bad, can't make any new ones. So don't occupy all of them if you intend to make new ones by the end of the year. And make sure the other players don't occupy them. If an enemy player occupied the "HSC" and left, it's still in their possession until you take it back.
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Feb 18, 2013 12:30 pm

I call Soviet Union.

I implement International Solidarity FTW.

[All industrial cities except in the SU are on strike. Next turn, they all become the Soviet Union's.]

I WIN!
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Baron Von PWN on Mon Feb 18, 2013 1:21 pm

We have our first contender!

BBS has requested the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union not being a faction his request has been denied.

1.BBS
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Any other takers?
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Neoteny on Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:20 pm

I'll play. I don't have a country preference. Unless you want to give me Russia to piss BBS off.
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Just_essence on Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:24 pm

Should've researched the game before you joined, BBS. It's set before WWI.
I'll join as... Britain. But really, any country is fine.
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Sackett58 on Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:26 pm

I still have a copy of that game from the 80's. The Germans always have a problem. How long do you think this game might go?
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Neoteny on Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:28 pm

Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:30 pm

I'll be Aegeus, God of the Aegean Sea.
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Funkyterrance on Mon Feb 18, 2013 4:31 pm

I call Albania. Who's going to disagree with that assignment?
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Baron Von PWN on Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:10 pm

Some new takers!

1.BBS
2. Neoteny
3.Just_Essence
4.Doom_yoshi
5.Funkyterrance
6.
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Sacket the game goes as long as it goes. It ends when someone gets 50% of the suply centres plus one. So depending on how brutal or gulible you all are, quickly or long it all depends on the players.
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby pancakemix on Mon Feb 18, 2013 6:28 pm

This would be a forum game, so I've moved it to the Forum Games subforum.

I'd be interested in playing if I wasn't so busy. :(
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Baron Von PWN on Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:04 pm

Boo urns but I wanted off topics regulars!
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Neoteny on Mon Feb 18, 2013 9:18 pm

You got several of us at least. Try a pm of some others to see if they're up for it.
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:37 pm

Just_essence wrote:Should've researched the game before you joined, BBS. It's set before WWI.
I'll join as... Britain. But really, any country is fine.
EDIT: playdiplomacy.com is a place if anyone really likes Diplomacy.


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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Feb 18, 2013 11:40 pm

Neoteny wrote:I'll play. I don't have a country preference. Unless you want to give me Russia to piss BBS off.


Give Neo Russia. I'll be pissed off and choose The Glorious Byzantine Empire. That'll teach him.
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Baron Von PWN on Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:52 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Neoteny wrote:I'll play. I don't have a country preference. Unless you want to give me Russia to piss BBS off.


Give Neo Russia. I'll be pissed off and choose The Glorious Byzantine Empire. That'll teach him.


That sounds pretty lulsy I may just do that.
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Sackett58 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:32 am

Well what the hell. If you still have an opening I'll join. If I can I will take the Pope and Dagos and try to bring Rome back to it's former glory.
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby x-raider on Tue Feb 19, 2013 4:02 pm

No way...
It'd be turkey for me, but I really don't have the time. So I hope you all have fun.
Now, to see what's going on with CivII...
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Baron Von PWN on Tue Feb 19, 2013 5:34 pm

A new contender!

1.BBS
2. Neoteny
3.Just_Essence
4.Doom_yoshi
5.Funkyterrance
6.sackett58
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Sackett58 on Tue Feb 19, 2013 7:00 pm

Time to break out the box and blow off the dust.
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Baron Von PWN on Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:22 am

Come now just one more player!
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Neoteny on Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:21 am

The dead zone...
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby thegreekdog on Tue Feb 26, 2013 11:47 am

How does this game work?

Regardless of the answer, I'm in.
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Re: Let us Play a Game.

Postby Baron Von PWN on Tue Feb 26, 2013 5:52 pm

Huzzah our 7th contender!
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Postby Baron Von PWN on Tue Feb 26, 2013 6:39 pm

SO through a completely arbitrary system I have assigned the teams as follows.


The United Kingdom ; The Greek Dog.

France: Neoteny

Austro-Hungarian Empire: Big Ballin Stalin.

Italy: sacket 58

Russian Empire: Doom_Yoshi

Turkey: Funky Terrance

Germany: Just_Essence.


Now a word on how the game works.
The object of the game is to control 18 supply centres.

In order to win, you will most likely need to work with other players. This is a game where secret diplomacy is the whole point. Scheme with other players to crush your foes, then stab your co-conspirators in the back, or nobly stick to your allies, or even crazier go it alone. Feel free to chat about the game in the Forum,here viewtopic.php?f=62&t=186066, I will be updating the game there. I would suggest using the private messaging system so that no one else see's your correspondence. However there are no holds barred here communicate with each other however you like!

Your deadline to submit your orders is next Friday February 8th. Feel free to send them in early, I will be very forgiving and let you guys know if your orders have any problems with being invalid or anything like that. I will try to be fairly strict with order deadlines if no orders are submitted I will simply have all units hold.

Here's a link to the Game rules. I strongly recommend giving them a read. https://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf

I could give a rules run down but the rulebook will do a Much better job of it. If you have any specific questions feel free to message me.

Looking forward to seeing the game unfold!
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