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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy!

Postby x-raider on Wed Feb 27, 2013 6:49 pm

pancakemix wrote:*grabs popcorn*

squashes in next to pancakemix
...if I may.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy!

Postby Just_essence on Wed Feb 27, 2013 9:25 pm

That reminds me. Baron von PWN, how are you going to show territorial changes?
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Re: Re:

Postby Baron Von PWN on Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:53 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
Your deadline to submit your orders is next Friday February 8th. Feel free to send them in early, I will be very forgiving and let you guys know if your orders have any problems with being invalid or anything like that. I will try to be fairly strict with order deadlines if no orders are submitted I will simply have all units hold.


Do you have a time machine? If so, can I borrow it?



If you check the OP I've changed the date so no time machine needed! Move orders are due March 8th
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy!

Postby Baron Von PWN on Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:54 am

Just_essence wrote:That reminds me. Baron von PWN, how are you going to show territorial changes?



I will update the map each round. The updated map will show the adjusted territories in the appropriate colour .

I'm using a program called Realpolitik for the orders.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy!

Postby Just_essence on Thu Feb 28, 2013 7:18 am

Somehow, Realpolitik just sounds like something from 1984.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy!

Postby Sackett58 on Thu Feb 28, 2013 9:53 am

Just_essence wrote:Somehow, Realpolitik just sounds like something from 1984.



Sounds like a Russian influence to me.
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Re: Re:

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:17 am

BigBallinStalin wrote:
Baron Von PWN wrote:
Your deadline to submit your orders is next Friday February 8th. Feel free to send them in early, I will be very forgiving and let you guys know if your orders have any problems with being invalid or anything like that. I will try to be fairly strict with order deadlines if no orders are submitted I will simply have all units hold.


Do you have a time machine? If so, can I borrow it?


You already will have.
And remember what the poet said – “in booty there is loot, and in loot booty.” Or sump’n like that.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy!

Postby Baron Von PWN on Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:30 pm

I hope all the correspondence is going well and that you are all hatching dastardly plots.

Just a friendly reminder your spring 01 orders are due this Friday, I will be processing orders Saturday with or without your orders having been submitted.

So get your orders in today! you can always submit changes at a later time.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy!

Postby Neoteny on Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:12 pm

There were only two survivors of a shipwreck who were able to make their way to a desert island, a handsome young Englishman and a beautiful young Englishwoman.

What did they do?

Answer - nothing, because nobody had introduced them to each other.




Ho ho ho, the English.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy!

Postby Baron Von PWN on Tue Mar 05, 2013 10:47 pm

Hi everybody. Someone asked a question which I think bears clarifying here in the thread.

I would like to draw your attention to page 5 of the rulebook . (https://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf) Where it talks about "specific movement restrictions".

Kiel and Denmark are connected. An army may move into Kiel from Denmark and vice versa. Kiel and Sweden are also similarly connected.

Furthermore a Fleet in Kiel has access to both HEL and BAL, and does not need to pass through Denmark.

Also important are the Coast rules. For movement purposes its as though each coast of Saint Petersburg, Spain and Bulgaria are separate provinces that have specific adjacent territories.
Though for purposes of control a fleet on either coast controls the territory and only one coast may be occupied at a time.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy!

Postby Sackett58 on Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:27 am

Let us negotiate for a peaceful Europe.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy!

Postby Just_essence on Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:28 am

Hmm, yes. But we must first wait for the result of our orders.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy!

Postby Baron Von PWN on Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:07 am

All orders have been received. I will update as soon as I get home.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy!

Postby x-raider on Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:18 pm

Neoteny wrote:There were only two survivors of a shipwreck who were able to make their way to a desert island, a handsome young Englishman and a beautiful young Englishwoman.
What did they do?
Answer - nothing, because nobody had introduced them to each other.

Ho ho ho, the English.

:D
wat?

Sackett58 wrote:Let us negotiate for a peaceful Europe.

Come, come. Let us be diplomatic about this.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy! *updated*! Spring 01

Postby Baron Von PWN on Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:22 pm

Spring 01 and we already seem some clashes occuring!

See bellow a map showing players opening moves.


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Player`s orders and their results in text format.

Austria:
A Budapest - Rumania
F Trieste Hold
A Vienna - Galicia (*Bounce*)

England:
F Edinburgh - Norwegian Sea
A Liverpool - Yorkshire
F London - English Channel

France:
F Brest - Mid-Atlantic Ocean
A Marseilles Hold
A Paris - Picardy

Germany:
A Berlin - Kiel
F Kiel - Holland
A Munich - Ruhr

Italy:
F Naples - Ionian Sea
A Rome - Tuscany
A Venice Hold

Russia:
A Moscow - Ukraine
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
F St Petersburg(sc) - Finland
A Warsaw - Galicia (*Bounce*)

Turkey:
F Ankara - Black Sea (*Bounce*)
A Constantinople - Bulgaria
A Smyrna - Constantinople


Map showing the current positions of units on the board.

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Clean version of the map without place names.

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There are no retreats so Fall Moves are due Friday March 15th!
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy! *updated*! Spring 01

Postby x-raider on Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:19 pm

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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy! *updated*! Spring 01

Postby Baron Von PWN on Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:47 pm

Someone asked an important question
Question, for clarity's sake:

Is this now the turn when we produce stuff at the supply centers?

And if nothing is on my SC, suppose I build an army on next turn--but someone invades the SC on the next turn. Does my newly created army bounce back the invading army?



No.


Think of a round as having three parts.

Part 1 (spring) Armies jockey for position and try to get to a spot where they can capture Supply centres. In this phase you will not actually capture the centres you occupy.

Part 2 (fall) Armies move in for the kill and attempt to capture supply centres. At the end of this round any regions containing supply centres with units in them will transfer to the units controller. For example, if the Austrian army in Greece on this map is still there by the end of the round. Control of Greece will transfer to Austria away from Turkey.

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Part 3 (winter) build, disband or do nothing. In this phase we tally up how many supply centres players control and how many units they control. If they have more supply than units they get to build. If they have more units than supply they lose units.

From our example map above, let`s say Austria, captures Greece. Austria would now have 5 supply and 4 units. Austria would be able to build a unit in an available Home centre ( In our example they could choose Vienna or Budapest).

Turkey would now have 3 supply, and 3 units. They would do nothing. Neither building nor disbanding. if they had a 4th unit they would have to disband one of their 4 units.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy! *updated*! Spring 01

Postby Sackett58 on Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:30 am

Greece is a sovereign nation and we will not tolerate an invasio...., oh, this is just an example. My bad. 8-[
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy! *updated*! Spring 01

Postby Baron Von PWN on Thu Mar 14, 2013 10:45 am

Just a Reminder guys your moves are due Tomorrow! So send them in!
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy! *updated*! Spring 01

Postby Baron Von PWN on Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:56 pm

A run down on support

With maps!!
I like to think as each unit being worth 1. Whoever has the bigger number wins and has their order go off. Supporting units add their strength to whatever action is being taken.

So in our situation we have This map.

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Two Russian fleets face off with one Turkish one.

They submit orders as follows.

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Fleet Sevastapol ->(moves) Black Sea
Fleet Rumania Holds

Turkey
Fleet Black sea Holds

So Russia has one fleet attacking the black sea. Turkey has one fleet holding it. 1-1= 0 So no one has an advantage meaning it's a stalemate.

The result of this set of orders would be that Sevastopol fails to dislodge the Turkish fleet.

Russia:
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Fails*)
F Rumania Hold

Turkey:
F Black Sea Hold

it fails as one unit versus one unit always results in stalemate.

Now if Russia uses a support order.

The fleet in Rumania being adjacent to both the attacking army, and the defending army is able to help Sevastopol attack the black sea.

Russia:
F Sevastopol - Black Sea
F Rumania Supports F Sevastopol - Black Sea

Turkey:
F Black Sea Hold (*Dislodged*)


Russia now has two units committed against turkey's one. (Russia is red Turkey blue) 2- 1=1. Russia has one left over, Russia therefore prevails and is able to push turkey out of the black sea. Turkey's fleet is not destroyed, it is only forced to retreat.

Support can also be used for defence.

Let's assume the turks have a second fleet.

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They place their orders as such.

Russia:
F Sevastopol - Black Sea
F Rumania Supports F Sevastopol - Black Sea

Turkey:
F Black Sea Hold
F Armenia Supports F Black Sea

The result would be as follows.
Russia:
F Sevastopol - Black Sea (*Fails*)
F Rumania Supports F Sevastopol - Black Sea

Turkey:
F Black Sea Hold
F Armenia Supports F Black Sea


Turkey's fleet in armenia is supporting the fleet in the black sea, giving him 2 units. Russia's fleet in Rumania supports his fleet into the black sea, giving him two units. 2- 1=2 The result is a stalemate, so Russia fails to take the black sea.
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I hope this makes it a bit clearer. if you have any further questions feel free to ask. Also the relevant pages on support orders are 7- 10 in the rulebook found here. https://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy! *updated*! Spring 01

Postby Baron Von PWN on Thu Mar 14, 2013 8:19 pm

Someone had questions about convoys here's a little run-down

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Let's say Austria wants to move that army in Spain to Brest.

They would place their orders as follows.

Austria:
A Spain - Brest
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Convoys A Spain - Brest

Assuming nothing blocked him, Austria's army would then be in brest at the end of the year.

You can convoy an army even further if you have the fleets.
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Let's say Austria wants to move Spain to Saint petersburg This is what their orders would look like.

Austria:
A Spain - St Petersburg
F Mid-Atlantic Ocean Convoys A Spain - St Petersburg
F North Atlantic Ocean Convoys A Spain - St Petersburg
F Norwegian Sea Convoys A Spain - St Petersburg
F Barents Sea Convoys A Spain - St Petersburg

It would work too and the army would show up in Saint Petersburg much to the Russian's dismay.


If you have any questions be sure to ask. Also see page 11 and 12 on a description of how to use those. https://www.wizards.com/avalonhill/rules/diplomacy.pdf
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy! *updated*! Spring 01

Postby Baron Von PWN on Sat Mar 16, 2013 8:31 am

There has been some confusion over Rules, and the way the Round works. As a result I will extend the round till Monday.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy! *updated*! Spring 01

Postby Neoteny on Sat Mar 16, 2013 7:47 pm

If anyone needs me, I'll be in Elba. I'll be back though.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy! *updated*! Spring 01

Postby Just_essence on Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:42 pm

Reminds me of Napoleon.
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Re: Conquer Club Diplomacy! *updated*! Spring 01

Postby ManBungalow on Mon Mar 18, 2013 3:46 pm

I don't know what's going on, but I just dropped by to say that this looks really cool.
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