Eurasia Map [Old thread]

[The Bison King]

I think Natty said it best when he said it''s theme was a geographic map of the Eurasian continent. I really don't feel like he needs to attach an additional meaning to this map than that.

[natty dread]

This map probably could go to a new level if it had a greater theme (Golfe Du, California for some recent more dramatic examples)...or even with just a touch (Quad Cities recently).

California, really? I don't think that's comparable in any way. With California, you have a small area with a distinct culture, or at least a smaller base of cultural themes that you can utilize. When you have an entire continent, with as hugely diverse set of cultures like Eurasia, I don't think you can do the same. There's no "Eurasian culture".

As for Golfe du, I don't really want to go toward the style of a paper map - it's not for every map, I've done it on some maps but I don't intend to do it here.

Anyway, I have some ideas on how I want to develop the graphical direction of this map, but I'm thinking I'm going to let them stew for a while, and get the gameplay more in place first.

[Kabanellas]

I like it!! a good old style what-you-see-is-what-you-get-risk-map with a good number of regions

..I don't like that some regions have the army box (like Cyprus or Sicily) and others don't. Unless they have different attributes....

Good work Natty!!!!

[natty dread]

I like it!! a good old style what-you-see-is-what-you-get-risk-map with a good number of regions

..I don't like that some regions have the army box (like Cyprus or Sicily) and others don't. Unless they have different attributes....

Good work Natty!!!!

Thanks, glad you like it.

The army circles are only on places where the army number visibility would be poor without them. Like on small islands where the numbers would have to be partially on top of water. But maybe I'll change that later on, right now I'm more focused on the gameplay...

Speaking of which, anyone like the idea of an additional collection bonus? Something like "resource centers" scattered on territories in areas with higher infrastructure... those could give something like +1 for first 4 and +1/2 for each beyond 4. Nothing major, just a sort of supplemental bonus.

[The Bison King]

Speaking of which, anyone like the idea of an additional collection bonus? Something like "resource centers" scattered on territories in areas with higher infrastructure... those could give something like +1 for first 4 and +1/2 for each beyond 4. Nothing major, just a sort of supplemental bonus.

meh.

[Kabanellas]

The army circles are only on places where the army number visibility would be poor without them. Like on small islands where the numbers would have to be partially on top of water. But maybe I'll change that later on, right now I'm more focused on the gameplay...

Yes, I understood that. But for the coherence aspect ot it I'd prefer to have all regions with (or without) circles.

Speaking of which, anyone like the idea of an additional collection bonus? Something like "resource centers" scattered on territories in areas with higher infrastructure... those could give something like +1 for first 4 and +1/2 for each beyond 4. Nothing major, just a sort of supplemental bonus.

I would like this one to keep its 'straightforward' gameplay. I know I usually advocate for complex maps but somehow this map seems pretty much solid just like it is - a good old region grabbing style map

[AndyDufresne]

This map probably could go to a new level if it had a greater theme (Golfe Du, California for some recent more dramatic examples)...or even with just a touch (Quad Cities recently).

California, really? I don't think that's comparable in any way. With California, you have a small area with a distinct culture, or at least a smaller base of cultural themes that you can utilize. When you have an entire continent, with as hugely diverse set of cultures like Eurasia, I don't think you can do the same. There's no "Eurasian culture".

As for Golfe du, I don't really want to go toward the style of a paper map - it's not for every map, I've done it on some maps but I don't intend to do it here.

Anyway, I have some ideas on how I want to develop the graphical direction of this map, but I'm thinking I'm going to let them stew for a while, and get the gameplay more in place first.

I've you've misinterpreted what I meant about Golfe Du. I wasn't referring to the paper style, just simply the "fancy" style and colors it had going on.

I don't think your map would be served by doing anything as drastic as those, or as Route 66 or any other map like that. However, Quad Cities had a nice touch of theme element, so did your Yugoslavia.

I think when people are asking you to get a theme, they don't want your map to be akin to North America map.

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Speaking of which, anyone like the idea of an additional collection bonus? Something like "resource centers" scattered on territories in areas with higher infrastructure... those could give something like +1 for first 4 and +1/2 for each beyond 4. Nothing major, just a sort of supplemental bonus.

I would like this one to keep its 'straightforward' gameplay. I know I usually advocate for complex maps but somehow this map seems pretty much solid just like it is - a good old region grabbing style map

Agreed here.


--Andy

[natty dread]

I don't think your map would be served by doing anything as drastic as those, or as Route 66 or any other map like that. However, Quad Cities had a nice touch of theme element, so did your Yugoslavia.

So how do you suggest applying thematic elements to the map? What exactly can you do that would express the theme of "Eurasia"?
When you're doing a map of a single city, or country, or even a group of closely related countries, it's easy to find things you can use for creating a theme. But when the subject is an entire continent... how exactly would you do it?

Yes, I understood that. But for the coherence aspect ot it I'd prefer to have all regions with (or without) circles.

Yeah, I understand. I'll see which way I'll go with them when I have more of an idea of the graphical direction.

[AndyDufresne]

It is indeed probably a difficult thing to do. Widowmakers went with the easy route for the USA Map Pack---using texture graphics---but something like that would turn this map into a sad mess.

I think your legend and title graphics may be the only way to do something, and to be honest, those look pretty good as they are for the most part.


--Andy

[natty dread]

It is indeed probably a difficult thing to do. Widowmakers went with the easy route for the USA Map Pack---using texture graphics---but something like that would turn this map into a sad mess.

Yeah, I don't think it would work for this map.

I think your legend and title graphics may be the only way to do something, and to be honest, those look pretty good as they are for the most part.

I'm pretty satisfied with the title (although I'm not opposed to experimenting with it a little more), but I do intend to redo the legend completely. I have some ideas on a new legend that will probably bring a little more flavor to the map, but I'm not yet 100% on the details so I'll probably just leave it until after gameplay...

[AndyDufresne]

All in all, as long as this map has clean graphics and gameplay without any additional gimmicks or resources, it'll probably be a map I play often and add to my regular rotation.


--Andy

[natty dread]

Great, I'll invite you for a 1v1 when it hits beta

[Geger]

I like big map with easy game play (like world 2.1). I think it's better to add in small map (in legend) the number of bonuses for each region. I mean like in world 2.1, because it's easier to read.

Btw, I see something wrong about Bonuses for Eastern Asia.

Holding each sub-bonus we get 2,2,4,4 and 3, also total 15; but the bonus for holding all of them is 14

[Victor Sullivan]

I like big map with easy game play (like world 2.1). I think it's better to add in small map (in legend) the number of bonuses for each region. I mean like in world 2.1, because it's easier to read.

Btw, I see something wrong about Bonuses for Eastern Asia.

Holding each sub-bonus we get 2,2,4,4 and 3, also total 15; but the bonus for holding all of them is 14

I think natty more 'slapped' numbers onto the bonuses to be dealt with later.

With regard to the collection bonus: As a supporter/purveyor of 'spicy' gameplay, I even must say I prefer the map as is, as I think it will be a solid classic gameplay map.

-Sully

[lostatlimbo]

This map probably could go to a new level if it had a greater theme (Golfe Du, California for some recent more dramatic examples)...or even with just a touch (Quad Cities recently).--Andy

California is an example of dramatic theme? Hahahaha!