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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby Oneyed on Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:41 pm

so what the next? I´ve changed theme, gameplay, what more?

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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby natty dread on Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:07 pm

Try pm:ing the bison king to move your map to the drafting room.
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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby Flapcake on Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:02 am

Its not bad, what you can do to make the details more clear is to size it up some, like 800x800, then the text in the legen will look better.

Im looking 4ward to see whats next.

keep it up ;)
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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby ironsij0287 on Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:06 am

Bratislava! Featured in films such as Eurotrip and Hostel.
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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby Oneyed on Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:14 pm

natty_dread wrote:Try pm:ing the bison king to move your map to the drafting room.


thanks. will do, just I need a little time now.
Flapcake wrote:Its not bad, what you can do to make the details more clear is to size it up some, like 800x800, then the text in the legen will look better.


I did the small version (630x600) at the first, if everything fit. and also only later I know that also large version is needed :)
Flapcake wrote:Im looking 4ward to see whats next.

keep it up ;)


thanks. be ready for new one :D
ironsij0287 wrote:Bratislava! Featured in films such as Eurotrip and Hostel.


believe me the Hostel is about another planet. a little sci-fi :lol:

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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby Industrial Helix on Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:59 pm

well, we got a solid draft and I think the theme is pretty solid and worthy of being made.

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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby Oneyed on Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:23 am

ou, thanks Industrial Helix :)

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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby J_Indr on Sat Jan 14, 2012 8:14 am

This is a good theme, Oneyed - hope it gets somewhere.

Also, I'd consider using háčky and čárky, or whatever you call them in Slovakia in your territory names. If you check out Iceland and Denmakr maps, they also use the ∂, ø, ö etc. symbols.
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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby Oneyed on Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:05 pm

J_Indr wrote:This is a good theme, Oneyed - hope it gets somewhere.


thanks. I work on new version and hope I will finished this map to playable version :)
J_Indr wrote:Also, I'd consider using háčky and čárky, or whatever you call them in Slovakia in your territory names. If you check out Iceland and Denmakr maps, they also use the ∂, ø, ö etc. symbols.


I thought about this, but was afraid if it will be not too complicated for english site. but I think I will go with them. ;)

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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby Flapcake on Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:34 pm

Oneyed wrote:
I thought about this, but was afraid if it will be not too complicated for english site. but I think I will go with them. ;)


Its not complicated, people dont need to know how its spoken or spelled, it will be integrated in the map and conected from the territory to the XML part behind the map,

Il say go for it, it will be more original this way and suit the theme.
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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby thehippo8 on Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:19 am

Hi, I like the map. Gameplay looks interesting, I'll keep looking at this and throw in my tuppance from time to time.
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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby Oneyed on Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:44 am

thehippo8 wrote:Hi, I like the map. Gameplay looks interesting, I'll keep looking at this and throw in my tuppance from time to time.


thanks hippo :) . I work on new version, some things were another in 1989. I hope this week I will post it.

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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby Oneyed on Fri Feb 03, 2012 7:24 am

here is new version. a little changed gameplay, a little less regions and changed graphics. all feedbacks are welcome :D

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Re: Gentle Revolution - updated version

Postby natty dread on Fri Feb 03, 2012 8:49 am

Ok, your large version kinda looks like you just took the small version and resized it, then made some quick fixes...

Herein lies the problem - when you resize bitmaps up from smaller to larger it makes them blurry and unfocuses, it loses detail. This is because there are more pixels in a larger image, ie. there's more information. The resizing algorithm tries to guess the missing information to fill in the blanks but those algorithms are way from perfect.

What you should do is redo the large image from scratch, do all the icons for the large version, then work on the large version only for now, at least until you've received the gameplay stamp - then you can create the small version from the large.
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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby macbone on Fri Feb 03, 2012 9:35 am

Flapcake wrote:
Oneyed wrote:
I thought about this, but was afraid if it will be not too complicated for english site. but I think I will go with them. ;)


Its not complicated, people dont need to know how its spoken or spelled, it will be integrated in the map and conected from the territory to the XML part behind the map,

Il say go for it, it will be more original this way and suit the theme.


It'll be hell for team games, though. =) "Ok, take, uh, what's that one called?" I'm so glad we don't use Chinese characters for the China maps. =) Still, the characters that you've used here should be fine. =)

Still, very interesting so far! I'm not wild about the gas stations, though. Could you replace them with some other method of transportation? Buses, maybe, or cars? Train depots?
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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby Oneyed on Fri Feb 03, 2012 4:30 pm

natty_dread wrote:Ok, your large version kinda looks like you just took the small version and resized it, then made some quick fixes...

What you should do is redo the large image from scratch, do all the icons for the large version, then work on the large version only for now, at least until you've received the gameplay stamp - then you can create the small version from the large.


working on new large version. now I know that at the first I must do large one... thanks ;)
macbone wrote:It'll be hell for team games, though. =) "Ok, take, uh, what's that one called?" I'm so glad we don't use Chinese characters for the China maps. =) Still, the characters that you've used here should be fine. =)


when I´m not wrong in map Three Kingdoms of Korea is used korean font... :D
macbone wrote:Still, very interesting so far! I'm not wild about the gas stations, though. Could you replace them with some other method of transportation? Buses, maybe, or cars? Train depots?


thanks. why not gas stations? in the reality there are gas stations on 90% where I have them...

thanks for feedbacks and tips. they helped a lot :)

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Re: Gentle Revolution - updated version

Postby ViperOverLord on Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:41 pm

I'm not digging the title, 'Gentle Revolution' b/c there's nothing on the map that explains the reason for it. I find that to be distracting and that it does a disservice to whatever theme you're trying to use.

And the state security agents look like they're giving me the finger.
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Re: Gentle Revolution - updated version

Postby Oneyed on Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:28 pm

ViperOverLord wrote:I'm not digging the title, 'Gentle Revolution' b/c there's nothing on the map that explains the reason for it. I find that to be distracting and that it does a disservice to whatever theme you're trying to use.

And the state security agents look like they're giving me the finger.


does anybody else has these opinions? and I mean both... :)

seriously now it is still time to change gameplay, graphic but later I do not want to redoing everything.

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Re: Gentle Revolution - updated version

Postby tokle on Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:43 pm

Oneyed wrote:
ViperOverLord wrote:I'm not digging the title, 'Gentle Revolution' b/c there's nothing on the map that explains the reason for it. I find that to be distracting and that it does a disservice to whatever theme you're trying to use.

And the state security agents look like they're giving me the finger.


does anybody else has these opinions? and I mean both... :)

seriously now it is still time to change gameplay, graphic but later I do not want to redoing everything.

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I kind of agree about the shape of the security guys. It's not quite distinct enough as a silhouette.

I think the theme and the title are explained well enough, though internationally it is more well known as the "velvet revolution".

I don't think you need to state that Bratislava is "today in Slovakia". The less text the better, I reckon. You might not even need to say Czechoslovakia.
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Re: Gentle Revolution - what the f.ck?

Postby tokle on Sun Feb 05, 2012 5:51 pm

Were the events in Bratislava more or equally as important to the revolution as a whole than demonstartions elsewhere in the country?
I.e. Prague?
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Re: Gentle Revolution - what the f.ck?

Postby Oneyed on Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:07 pm

tokle wrote:I kind of agree about the shape of the security guys. It's not quite distinct enough as a silhouette.


looking for better one :)
tokle wrote:I think the theme and the title are explained well enough, though internationally it is more well known as the "velvet revolution".


velvet is used in czech republic. in slovakia it is gentle. but as I wrote this before: when velvet sounds better, I have no problems to go with it...
tokle wrote:I don't think you need to state that Bratislava is "today in Slovakia". The less text the better, I reckon. You might not even need to say Czechoslovakia.


I work on new version with less text.
tokle wrote:Were the events in Bratislava more or equally as important to the revolution as a whole than demonstartions elsewhere in the country?
I.e. Prague?


I do not think it was more important as in Prague, but the most important in Slovak republic yes. to Bratislava become people from all Slovakia.

thanks for input. :)

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Re: Gentle Revolution - what the f.ck?

Postby tokle on Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:27 pm

Oneyed wrote:
tokle wrote:I think the theme and the title are explained well enough, though internationally it is more well known as the "velvet revolution".


velvet is used in czech republic. in slovakia it is gentle. but as I wrote this before: when velvet sounds better, I have no problems to go with it...

I know that. What I was saying was that it's not only in Czechia they use the term velvet revolution, it's also used internationally. Hence it would be more recognizable to an international audience than gentle revolution.
Having said that, I think the title is good enough as it is.
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Re: Gentle Revolution - what the f.ck?

Postby Flapcake on Sun Feb 05, 2012 6:51 pm

Nice with the road map at behind, it could be more apparent though ;)

The coat of arms are not very pretty, I suggest you replace it with one in good quality and not try to fix the current one.

over all it look better and better ;)
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Re: Gentle Revolution

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:05 am

J_Indr wrote:This is a good theme, Oneyed - hope it gets somewhere.

Also, I'd consider using háčky and čárky, or whatever you call them in Slovakia in your territory names. If you check out Iceland and Denmakr maps, they also use the ∂, ø, ö etc. symbols.

Yeah, but it's a pain to deal with, because the high-ASCII characters that are needed don't fall into the alphabet in the expected places.

You get situations like on Nordic Nations, if you forget that Aland with the loop comes at the end of the alphabet instead of at the beginning, you are trying to attack from Aland, and you go to the attack pull-down and it's not there. Eventually you realize it's at the bottom, but at first you find yourself going up and down the pull-down thinking, "Am I crazy? Do I or do I not own Aland? Where the hell did it go?"

My name is Dušan, but North American keyboards don't have the š key of course, so I have to use a 5-key combination to get it, and quite honestly I don't bother with it (except in a situation like this where I need to make a point.) Playing with high-ASCII stuff is just extra work for most people.
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Re: Gentle Revolution - what the f.ck?

Postby natty dread on Mon Feb 06, 2012 8:10 am

Dukasaur wrote:Yeah, but it's a pain to deal with, because the high-ASCII characters that are needed don't fall into the alphabet in the expected places.

You get situations like on Nordic Nations, if you forget that Aland with the loop comes at the end of the alphabet instead of at the beginning, you are trying to attack from Aland, and you go to the attack pull-down and it's not there. Eventually you realize it's at the bottom, but at first you find yourself going up and down the pull-down thinking, "Am I crazy? Do I or do I not own Aland? Where the hell did it go?"


Å, Ä and Ö are exactly where they're supposed to be, though. They officially do come after Z in the Finnish & Scandinavian alphabets.

Besides, now that there's clickable maps, the concern is moot anyway. You can just click on the region you want to attack to/from.
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