Classic Cities : Buenos Aires [20/2] Vacation please.

[Gillipig]

Thanks gillipig, things are changing a lot for the next version. Got to get the impassables done right or not at all. Can make the territ lines a tad thinner but I sort of like the large chunky look to them.

there will be a lot going on inside the map so lets hope I do not over do it.

That always a risk! The more things you add to a map the greater the risk of over doing it becomes. Especially when you have a solid map from the get go. I for one don't think you need houses as impassables on this map. I think houses as bonuses would be much more appealing idea, but it all depends on how you do it.

[koontz1973]

Lots of new things to criticise.
OK, which of the buildings work, which do not.
Title changed.

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[isaiah40]

If your going to have dice on the map, then the least you can do is place 1's on the tops of them!!

Seriously, I prefer the skyscrapers or the ones in the bottom right.

[koontz1973]

Bloody funny isaiah. Just saw that myself. I will get rid of te dice and put some more coloured houses there then. They are the most typical for the city.

[koontz1973]

Done.

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[Gillipig]

Done.

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Let me just first say that I didn't think all changes were bad , making sarsfield and floresta into one territ looks better. And I like the "new" colours on the old city better. But the houses, skyscrapers and is it huts down there in the old city? I didn't like any of that! (which I'm sure you suspected lol) Aren't there any rivers going through Buenos Aires that you can use? I understand if you don't want to pound the entire map with trees as impassables but there must be some other form of border decreaser you can use! The water still needs some work I think as it doesn't quite do the job of looking like water yet.
If you twist the name "coghland" 90 degrees and move it up a bit and I think it's in it's natural place.

[ask me2]

I don't have any advice, but this looks great.

[cairnswk]

...Aren't there any rivers going through Buenos Aires that you can use?...

If koontz1973 did a map of the greater area of Buenos Aires, there are several river systems that could be used.
But in the city area, any are most likely to have been turned into storm water drains and covered in cement as apart of city infrastructure.

[Flapcake]

I realy likes all the types of houses, the style fit the rest of map nicely, also the trees suits better with the houses.

[koontz1973]

Let me just first say that I didn't think all changes were bad , making sarsfield and floresta into one territ looks better. And I like the "new" colours on the old city better. But the houses, skyscrapers and is it huts down there in the old city? I didn't like any of that! (which I'm sure you suspected lol) Aren't there any rivers going through Buenos Aires that you can use? I understand if you don't want to pound the entire map with trees as impassables but there must be some other form of border decreaser you can use! The water still needs some work I think as it doesn't quite do the job of looking like water yet.
If you twist the name "coghland" 90 degrees and move it up a bit and I think it's in it's natural place.

Not all changes are going to be looked at favourable by all. I added the houses as it was a suggestion. You are right in thinking the brown ones are wooden huts, they are in the earliest part of the city and therefore fit. The coloured houses popped up around the turn of the centary and the flats in the 40/50's. So they fit the idea of the map. Had some "dice" on the map for the modern houses but took them off. Not really any rivers, only one could be used and it runs along the outskirts of the city.

But in the city area, any are most likely to have been turned into storm water drains and covered in cement as apart of city infrastructure.

Will have a look into this and see if they can go on. Maybe start them of as a river in the old part of the city and then turn them into drains in the modern part.

[koontz1973]

Finished of my buildings, but will keep on working on them to get them super nice.
Removed the duck pond in the south west. Idea - should a compass go in?
Played around with the territ lines.
Made some territs bigger for legibility.

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[CAPK81]

wow very nice you have talent my friend

[koontz1973]

Thanks CAPK, any GP that needs to be added or removed. I looked into the rivers/drainage systems, and there is one that could be used but it would be a new impassable and also a very long one. So will not add it. I know houses are not the bog standard map impassables but so what.

[Gillipig]

Thanks CAPK, any GP that needs to be added or removed. I looked into the rivers/drainage systems, and there is one that could be used but it would be a new impassable and also a very long one. So will not add it. I know houses are not the bog standard map impassables but so what.

Houses doesn't make sense any sense as impassables. Mountains are impassables because they are hard to pass with armies, so are rivers and forests. Houses are never lined up so orderly that they form an impassable line several hundred miles long! There are forests that can't be passed by armies, there are rivers that can't be passed by armies, there are certainly mountains that can't be passed by armies. This is not really a minor reality check error, it's a major one! You might just as well line up pencils for several hundred miles. Houses can't be impassables on large scale maps! Sorry for ranting about this but I feel like you need to hear it!

[Flapcake]

Thanks CAPK, any GP that needs to be added or removed. I looked into the rivers/drainage systems, and there is one that could be used but it would be a new impassable and also a very long one. So will not add it. I know houses are not the bog standard map impassables but so what.

Houses doesn't make sense any sense as impassables. Mountains are impassables because they are hard to pass with armies, so are rivers and forests. Houses are never lined up so orderly that they form an impassable line several hundred miles long! There are forests that can't be passed by armies, there are rivers that can't be passed by armies, there are certainly mountains that can't be passed by armies. This is not really a minor reality check error, it's a major one! You might just as well line up pencils for several hundred miles. Houses can't be impassables on large scale maps! Sorry for ranting about this but I feel like you need to hear it!

I think your beeing to nick picking here, the houses koontz made are very nice for impasables, Again (I have to say again) gameplay comes in first, and the houses makes sense in that matter, mountains in a city does not, we got so many city maps with rivers or neutral/blank impasables, but thise houses bring a different and butifull addon to this very nice map.

Thanks for letting out the steam