Paris - V9 (Jan. 1) (pgs. 1 & 8) - FEEDBACK PLEASE!!

[sempaispellcheck]

Merci bien, Lance! Je fais le mieux que je peux!

Nate - glad you agree with Koontz - that makes my life easier.

The sig shall stay for now - I'll shrink it a bit and put it at the bottom of the legend.

[ViperOverLord]

No Eifle Tower?

[sempaispellcheck]

La Tour Eiffel = the Eiffel (not Eifle ) Tower.

[Flapcake]

La Tour Eiffel = the Eiffel (not Eifle ) Tower.

I think La Tour Eiffel are only known by french people, the rest of the world known it as Eiffel tower, wich I believe would be the correct to call it, as then every one are sure what it is.

"Tour" sounds like something you can ride on, like a bike dont take it to offencive but view it from a turists eye In my copenhagen map I had to call the sigths in english, cours no one would have know what the hell Im talking about

[sempaispellcheck]

the rest of the world known it as Eiffel tower

Not true. The Spanish have another word for it, as do the Italians, as do...
Point is, this is a map of Paris, where the people speak French. The territory names are all in French (and few of them translate), so to call it the Eiffel Tower would make it out-of-sync with the rest of the territories.
Put "Tour Eiffel" into Google and the second result is the English-language Wikipedia page for the "Eiffel Tower."

Most English speakers (particularly Americans) will eventually (and I hope soon) have to realize that the rest of the world will not speak English simply because they're too lazy to learn another language.

[cairnswk]

I agree with sempaispellcheck on this one...
I also know it as la Tour Eiffel (not just it's English derivation) and think it is more appropriate.

Also, you have the Juillet Column in the Place de la Bastille...while i recognise the Bastille no longer stands wouldn't it be more appropriate for an image of the Bastilleto appear there, rather than a monument celebrating the occassion and date. Or at least a floor plan image of the Bastille.

sempaispellcheck, i hope this will go somewhere graphically...i have to say it is not looking too good at present imho. I am sorry to be blunt. i don't like the oriental characters whatever they represent, and for such a huge city like Paris, i think something more/better could have been made of the arrondissements (districts including the outer porte ones), quartiers (quaters e.g. Latin), rive droite (right bank) and rive gauche (left bank) towards the gameplay.

I really want to encourage you to continue and hope you can arrive at a better position. There are so many creative things that could be done with this map.

[Flapcake]

Most English speakers (particularly Americans) will eventually (and I hope soon) have to realize that the rest of the world will not speak English simply because they're too lazy to learn another language.

(Lets not turn this in to a argument club )

But this not true, at ohterhand frensh people refuse to speak any thing but frensh, I have been to france many times and have noted that if you dont speak frensh they dont give a shit about you (mostly old people) English are the largest language in the western world and obligatorical in schools from 3 class in my contry, when french are choice free at college, and very few choose it, kind of same whit germans, when they travel in my contry they expect that we speak german and refuses to speak english or simply cant. I dont get it sorry.

Please note this, I think your english are good and Im not after you as person, but france had and still have I my contry a bad reputation (almost arrogant) about the "refuses to speak any thing but french thing"

[koontz1973]

The map is of Paris, the French capital. Having the territ names in French is more than acceptable and as long as they are correct and consistent, it should be allowed. Having territ names in English may be preferred by some users, but then we would need to Anglicise a lot of maps.

sempaispellcheck, as you are in the USA, it might be wise to send a mass PM to the French users of the site and ask them to come and have a look. Use google translate if you do not speak French and give them a set list of questions. One being correct territ names. Hope that helps.

[sempaispellcheck]

Also, you have the Juillet Column in the Place de la Bastille...while i recognise the Bastille no longer stands wouldn't it be more appropriate for an image of the Bastilleto appear there, rather than a monument celebrating the occassion and date. Or at least a floor plan image of the Bastille.

That's a good point, cairns. Not sure how it escaped me, but I think it would probably be a better idea to have an image of la Bastille there - especially since la Colonne de Juillet actually commemorates a totally different event.

sempaispellcheck, i hope this will go somewhere graphically...i have to say it is not looking too good at present imho. I am sorry to be blunt. i don't like the oriental characters whatever they represent, and for such a huge city like Paris, i think something more/better could have been made of the arrondissements (districts including the outer porte ones), quartiers (quaters e.g. Latin), rive droite (right bank) and rive gauche (left bank) towards the gameplay.

Me, too. This is my first map, and I didn't have much graphics experience when I started. koontz has given me a laundry list of things to work on for my next update (I think it's on page 5), but if you want to add to that, I would be most grateful - just please be as specific as possible (what do you mean by "something more/better? for example).
The Japanese characters are the "sempai" in "sempaispellcheck." I was advised to "do something" with my username, and that was what I thought of. It is staying as is (though I might move it and/or make it smaller) until and unless I get another idea that I like better.

Don't worry, koontz - I speak French fluently. In fact, I just got back from Paris in January - was studying there for a semester.

[koontz1973]

Don't worry, koontz - I speak French fluently. In fact, I just got back from Paris in January - was studying there for a semester.

You lucky lucky bastard. But the idea is one worth doing. Getting fresh eyes onto the map, giving ideas and feedback in general is always good.

You Chinese character has to go though for your sig. Bung your name onto the map with the character behind it. Sort of like cairnswk butterfly.

[sempaispellcheck]

You lucky lucky bastard.

Getting fresh eyes onto the map, giving ideas and feedback in general is always good.

Absolutely. But I think I'll wait until I post my next update.

Your Chinese character has to go though for your sig. Bung your name onto the map with the character behind it. Sort of like cairnswk butterfly.

IT'S JAPANESE!!!
Ok, I can do that.

[koontz1973]

Chinese / Japanese, I am sure I can remember some jokes about this from my youth, but if I post them, I would get banned.

[ComposerNate]

Conservez le en Francais. Si quelques idiotes ne recognisent pas l'image de la Tour, ils n'ont pas l'intelligence a comprendre les mots anglais!

I like the Japanese and squiggle, as long as it's smaller, at the bottom, and your actual username is there too.

I would agree with Cairns that something more could be done with the arrondissements, but it would make a very large map, which you don't want to do as a first time mapmaker. Maybe this one could be Paris mini and you eventually do Paris maximum or something.

I also agree with whoever said the metro lines don't do much. They would be more strategic if there were more overall territs (maybe in Paris maximum) so they could connect faraway places like in NYC.

[sempaispellcheck]

Conservez le en Francais. Si quelques idiotes ne recognisent pas l'image de la Tour, ils n'ont pas l'intelligence a comprendre les mots anglais!

Merci, Nate! Je suis ravi que tu es d'accord!
Meme si c'est un peu evident que tu n'es pas un vrai francophone.

I like the Japanese and squiggle, as long as it's smaller, at the bottom, and your actual username is there too.

Glad to hear that. That works for me.

I would agree with Cairns that something more could be done with the arrondissements, but it would make a very large map, which you don't want to do as a first time mapmaker. Maybe this one could be Paris mini and you eventually do Paris maximum or something.

Maybe - once I have more mapmaking experience. Still not certain what you guys mean by "something more."

I also agree with whoever said the metro lines don't do much. They would be more strategic if there were more overall territs (maybe in Paris maximum) so they could connect faraway places like in NYC.

What if I just had 3 stations on each metro line? Ligne 1 would have stations at l'Arc de Triomphe, Louvre, and Vincennes, and Ligne 4 would have stations at Sacre-Cœur, Montparnasse or Montsouris, and Louvre. Would that work?

[ComposerNate]

Meme si c'est un peu evident que tu n'es pas un vrai francophone.

My French is rusty, but I did write that without looking anything up!

I also agree with whoever said the metro lines don't do much. They would be more strategic if there were more overall territs (maybe in Paris maximum) so they could connect faraway places like in NYC.

What if I just had 3 stations on each metro line? Ligne 1 would have stations at l'Arc de Triomphe, Louvre, and Vincennes, and Ligne 4 would have stations at Sacre-Cœur, Montparnasse or Montsouris, and Louvre. Would that work?

I think that would be better. See what others think.