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Postby Ronaldinho on Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:43 am

im pritty sure that would be copyright? lol its a film or at least somone told me it was.....
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Postby maritovw on Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:53 pm

i will be posting a new version in a couple of days.. i will post two or three maps with different fonts to compare them.....

about the name, i may call it "The New World" or as rock suggested "New Spain" (or "Nueva España" wich is the same but in spanish)... i'll open a poll to decide on the best name...
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Postby wcaclimbing on Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:16 pm

not new world cause both north south and central america were considered the new world, not just the carribean and area around it
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Postby Marvaddin on Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:37 pm

Same with New Spain, dont you agree? Spain had really most lands in South America at that time...
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Postby Ronaldinho on Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:58 pm

I voted for Nueva España its a bit different and sounds cool
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Postby Ishiro on Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:08 pm

If you shifted the map down a little to exclude most of North America (leave Florida as part of an island continent) and include more of South America, you could call it The Spanish Main.
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Postby happysadfun on Mon Jul 31, 2006 9:22 am

but the portuguese and italians had almost all of brazil, so that wouldn't work, unless you made brazil unoccupiable, but then marvaddin wouldn't play it :)
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Postby Marvaddin on Mon Jul 31, 2006 10:07 am

Of course I wont!! :wink: :lol:
Italians? What Italians???? :?
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Postby maritovw on Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:18 am

maritovw wrote:i will be posting a new version in a couple of days..


i'm afraid that won't be possible... this week i will be loaded with tests (calculus & differential equations :? ) and a C++ project so i really don't think i will be able to post a new version this week, but next week i surely will...

nonetheless, keep voting in the poll and commenting... as of now, "The Caribbean Sea", "Nueva España", and "Middle America" are the most popular... personally, i'd prefer "Nueva España", but the people wil decide on this one...
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Postby happysadfun on Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:55 am

new spain in either language doesn't work because of arizona and texas, unless the timeframe was set to back before the louisiana purchase, in which case many of the states could be renamed northern mexico. and sorry, marvaddin, i had some history wrong. italians poured into southern brazil (by porto alegre) and northern argentina and uruguay, but did not own it.
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Postby fluffybunnykins on Tue Aug 01, 2006 7:37 pm

I voted Nueva Espana... I like anything a bit different and that enhances or illustrates the flavour of the map.
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Postby rocksolid on Tue Aug 01, 2006 8:06 pm

happysadfun wrote:new spain in either language doesn't work because of arizona and texas, unless the timeframe was set to back before the louisiana purchase, in which case many of the states could be renamed northern mexico.


Before Mexican independence in 1821 - when they became part of Mexico - Arizona and Texas were both part of New Spain.

There are definitely parts of this map that weren't in New Spain, but I think it's close enough for CC purposes...
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Postby happysadfun on Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:14 am

well then shouldn't texas and arizona be part of mexico, and possibly florida part of the greater antilles? better yet, wasn't there one half of florida owned by the us (west florida i think) and one part by spain? couldn't that be added? that would work! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA! SORRY THE ADHD PILLS DON'T WORK
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Postby Fireside Poet on Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:50 am

Great map, but it the font used in the legend and the name is begging for a pirate a la Blackbeard or something from the old Sid Meier's classic Pirates!

Do love the map and look forward to playing it out.

Just a thought...
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Postby maritovw on Wed Aug 02, 2006 2:26 pm

the map is located in the area where the spanish once had most of their colonies, so you tell me that some US territories don't belong to the map because they were never spain's.... deleting this territories would be like deleting Africa and the Near East on the Europe map or like deleting Oceania in the Asia map... got my point? this territories didn't belong to spain but they were borders of spain's territories, so they are also important because border conflicts have been common in all america, especially in the 19th century. so, even if they never actually belonged to spain, i think i should leave them there because of their historical importance...


rocksolid wrote:There are definitely parts of this map that weren't in New Spain, but I think it's close enough for CC purposes...

this is exactly what i mean!!!


hey fluffybunnykins: si, yo soy de Guatemala (that explains this post lol)... you almost got right what you wrote, only "que jugara bueno" is wrong, it should be "que se jugara bien" lol... and that "pues" es muy guatemalteco :lol:
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Postby maritovw on Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:32 pm

well, finally i had time to work on this map so here it is!! the last UPDATE.

things updated:
- drew all attack routes
- added the circles
- changed the font

as i had promised, i created several versions of the map, all the same but with different fonts, to choose the best one. here are the maps:
- Font no. 1
- Font no. 2
- Font no. 3
- Font no. 4
- Font no. 5

i'm opening a new poll to vote for the font you like the best. personally, i like no. 5 because it has some style but it still is very readable.
EDIT: i'm not changing the poll so post here to vote

please, i'd appreciate your comments very much!!


about the name poll, below are the results. because no name got at least half the votes, i'll open a "second round" after choosing the font. in this second round only "The Caribbean Sea" and "Nueva España" will be available.
EDIT: already changed. VOTE NOW!!

How should this map be named?
"The Caribbean Sea" 39% [ 16 ]
"The New World" 14% [ 6 ]
"New Spain" 2% [ 1 ]
"Nueva España" (spanish for "New Spain") 29% [ 12 ]
"Middle America" 14% [ 6 ]

Total Votes : 41
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Postby maritovw on Mon Aug 07, 2006 10:37 pm

isn't there a way to change the poll??? :?: :?: :?:
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Postby gavin_sidhu on Tue Aug 08, 2006 3:08 am

aww.. middle america got knocked out, but i guess the majority ruled. If people are complaining about the political corectness, I think you could get away with it if you trim the top of the map so it looks more concentrated and focussed on the spanish part of america even though the number of USA territories remain the same. The Europe map has lots of countries that are not part of europe but it does not look that way because only the very north of african territories is shown. Only problem is then you would be squished for space.
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how about we name it

Postby reaper on Tue Aug 08, 2006 2:57 pm

how about we name it if u want to kill a spanish person look for 1 in 1 of these states
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Postby Evil Pope on Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:09 pm

The attack routes are a bit hard to see.. could you darken them, or lighten them, or change their color, or something?
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Postby Fireside Poet on Tue Aug 08, 2006 4:19 pm

Font #5 in my book is the best one.
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Postby sully800 on Tue Aug 08, 2006 7:52 pm

I like font #2 and #5.

I also think the attack routes are a bit too faint. And the curves make them even more confusing. All the curving routes bettween the lesser antilles is very hard to follow I think. Why not just use straight lines?
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Postby happysadfun on Wed Aug 09, 2006 9:23 am

maritovw wrote:i'm using the local language to write the name of each territory and continent, i like it better that way... but if everyone else thinks i should put them all in english, i can do that too... just lemme know what you all think :wink:

i've just added a new update of the map, so check it out and speak!

i have one question though, what should be the size of the circles?? and, is this size the same on both maps (small and large) or should it be smaller in the small map?



if the title of the map ends up in english, put the continents in english. if it ends up in spanish, keep them the same.
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Postby fluffybunnykins on Wed Aug 09, 2006 2:30 pm

I vote Nueva Espana
and fonts 1 or 5
2 is too comic book to be on an olde world map
3 is too uptight & unflamboyant for this area of the world & hard to read, too
4 is just too informal for a map of this stature, it's also kind of a title font, rather than a 'body text' one...
just my opinions though
Personally, I really like the curved routes, again I think they add to the theme, but I do think they could be in a clearer colour, and maybe the gaps and/or dashes could be shorter too. That might also help the clarity...
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Postby ChiefManyFeet on Wed Aug 09, 2006 3:18 pm

Font 5 and keep the curves baby...

And maybe making the curves the same white as the font would help...
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