Page 1 of 35

Golfe du St. Laurent[FD,G,GP,FF]

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:12 pm
by Unit_2
Golfe du St. Laurent

Stamps:
Image Image Image Image

dolomite13 wrote:Version 13
- moved the Saint John text to make room for 888
- swapped est du quebec and new brunswick colors (but not sure that helps colorblind see filters below)
- added a border to map
- added a whale and a compass rose for flair
- added red to logo to give it some contrast and make it stand out a little

Large

Image

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4026/437 ... 42ab_o.png

Small

Image

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/437 ... 2a86_o.png

=D=





XMl:

(Link):
http://h1.ripway.com/orangeidahodog/gulfxmlcopy9.xml

(Code):
Code: Select all
    <?xml version="1.0"?>
          <map>
          <title>Golfe du St-Laurent</title>
          <smallwidth>600</smallwidth>
          <smallheight>425</smallheight>
          <largewidth>720</largewidth>
          <largeheight>510</largeheight>
          <filetype>jpeg</filetype>
        <positions>
           <position>
              <territory>Fredericton</territory>
              <territory>GF-Windsor</territory>
           </position>
           <position>
              <territory>Saint John</territory>
              <territory>Gros Morne</territory>
           </position>
           <position>
              <territory>Moncton</territory>
              <territory>Avalon Peninsula</territory>
           </position>
        </positions>
          <continent>
          <name>Great North</name>
          <bonus>3</bonus>
          <components>
          <territory>Nunavik</territory>
          <territory>Baie-James</territory>
          <territory>Caniapiscau</territory>
          <territory>Saguenay</territory>
          </components>
          </continent>
          <continent>
          <name>Labrador</name>
          <bonus>2</bonus>
          <components>
          <territory>Nunatsiavut</territory>
          <territory>Labrador City</territory>
          <territory>Goose Bay</territory>
          </components>
          </continent>
          <continent>
          <name>Newfoundland</name>
          <bonus>2</bonus>
          <components>
          <territory>Gros Morne</territory>
          <territory>GF-Windsor</territory>
          <territory>Avalon Peninsula</territory>
          </components>
          </continent>
          <continent>
          <name>Nova Scotia </name>
          <bonus>3</bonus>
          <components>
          <territory>Evangeline Trail</territory>
          <territory>Halifax</territory>
          <territory>P.E.I.</territory>
          <territory>Cape Breton</territory>
          </components>
          </continent>
          <continent>
          <name>New Brunswick</name>
          <bonus>2</bonus>
          <components>
          <territory>Fredericton</territory>
          <territory>Moncton</territory>
          <territory>Saint John</territory>
          </components>
          </continent>
          <continent>
          <name>Est du Quebec</name>
          <bonus>3</bonus>
          <components>
          <territory>Bas St-Laurent</territory>
          <territory>Chaudiere</territory>
          <territory>Estrie</territory>
          <territory>Monteregie</territory>
          </components>
          </continent>
          <continent>
          <name>Sud du Quebec</name>
          <bonus>6</bonus>
          <components>
          <territory>Montreal</territory>
          <territory>Laurentides</territory>
          <territory>Outaouais</territory>
          <territory>Lanaudiere</territory>
          <territory>Mauricie</territory>
          <territory>Abitibi</territory>
          <territory>Quebec</territory>
          <territory>Charlevoix</territory>
          </components>
          </continent>
          <continent>
          <name>Duplessis</name>
          <bonus>3</bonus>
          <components>
          <territory>Gaspesie</territory>
          <territory>Anticosti</territory>
          <territory>Minganie</territory>
          <territory>Sept-Rivieres</territory>
          <territory>Iles de la Madeleine</territory>
          </components>
          </continent>
          <territory>
          <name>Nunavik</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Baie-James</border>
          <border>Caniapiscau</border>
          <border>Labrador City</border>
          <border>Nunatsiavut</border>   
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>145</smallx>
          <smally>66</smally>         
          <largex>175</largex>
          <largey>75</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Baie-James</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Nunavik</border>
          <border>Caniapiscau</border>
          <border>Saguenay</border>
          <border>Abitibi</border>
          <border>Mauricie</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>109</smallx>
          <smally>162</smally>
          <largex>134</largex>
          <largey>190</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Caniapiscau</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Nunavik</border>
          <border>Labrador City</border>
          <border>Saguenay</border>
          <border>Baie-James</border>
          <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>198</smallx>
          <smally>146</smally>
          <largex>239</largex>
          <largey>171</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Saguenay</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Caniapiscau</border>
          <border>Baie-James</border>
          <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
          <border>Charlevoix</border>
          <border>Quebec</border>
          <border>Mauricie</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>164</smallx>
          <smally>224</smally>
          <largex>198</largex>
          <largey>265</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Nunatsiavut</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Nunavik</border>
          <border>Labrador City</border>
          <border>Goose Bay</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>299</smallx>
          <smally>84</smally>
          <largex>360</largex>
          <largey>96</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Labrador City</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Nunatsiavut</border>
          <border>Goose Bay</border>
          <border>Minganie</border>
          <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
          <border>Caniapiscau</border>
          <border>Nunavik</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>283</smallx>
          <smally>148</smally>
          <largex>341</largex>
          <largey>173</largey>     
          </coordinates>
          <neutral>3</neutral>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Goose Bay</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Nunatsiavut</border>
          <border>Minganie</border>
          <border>Labrador City</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>338</smallx>
          <smally>144</smally>
          <largex>407</largex>
          <largey>169</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Gros Morne</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Minganie</border>
          <border>GF-Windsor</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>457</smallx>
          <smally>193</smally>
          <largex>550</largex>
          <largey>227</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>GF-Windsor</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Gros Morne</border>
          <border>Avalon Peninsula</border>
          <border>Cape Breton</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>481</smallx>
          <smally>227</smally>
          <largex>578</largex>
          <largey>268</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Avalon Peninsula</name>
          <borders>
          <border>GF-Windsor</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>524</smallx>
          <smally>221</smally>
          <largex>630</largex>
          <largey>261</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Evangeline Trail</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Halifax</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>363</smallx>
          <smally>389</smally>
          <largex>437</largex>
          <largey>463</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Halifax</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Evangeline Trail</border>
          <border>Cape Breton</border>
          <border>P.E.I.</border>
          <border>Moncton</border>
          <border>Saint John</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>397</smallx>
          <smally>364</smally>
          <largex>477</largex>
          <largey>433</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Cape Breton</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Halifax</border>
          <border>Iles de la Madeleine</border>
          <border>GF-Windsor</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>445</smallx>
          <smally>312</smally>
          <largex>535</largex>
          <largey>370</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>P.E.I.</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Iles de la Madeleine</border>
          <border>Moncton</border>
          <border>Halifax</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>371</smallx>
          <smally>309</smally>
          <largex>446</largex>
          <largey>367</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Saint John</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Halifax</border>
          <border>Moncton</border>
          <border>Fredericton</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>307</smallx>
          <smally>372</smally>
          <largex>370</largex>
          <largey>443</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Moncton</name>
          <borders>
          <border>P.E.I.</border>
          <border>Halifax</border>
          <border>Saint John</border>
          <border>Fredericton</border>
          <border>Bas St-Laurent</border>
          <border>Gaspesie</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>318</smallx>
          <smally>308</smally>
          <largex>383</largex>
          <largey>365</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Fredericton</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Bas St-Laurent</border>
          <border>Moncton</border>
          <border>Saint John</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>293</smallx>
          <smally>344</smally>
          <largex>353</largex>
          <largey>409</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Bas St-Laurent</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Gaspesie</border>
          <border>Moncton</border>
          <border>Fredericton</border>
          <border>Chaudiere</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>258</smallx>
          <smally>276</smally>
          <largex>311</largex>
          <largey>327</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Chaudiere</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Quebec</border>
          <border>Bas St-Laurent</border>
          <border>Estrie</border>
          <border>Monteregie</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>199</smallx>
          <smally>358</smally>
          <largex>240</largex>
          <largey>426</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Estrie</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Chaudiere</border>
          <border>Monteregie</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>189</smallx>
          <smally>398</smally>
          <largex>228</largex>
          <largey>474</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Monteregie</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Montreal</border>
          <border>Chaudiere</border>   
          <border>Estrie</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>151</smallx>
          <smally>397</smally>
          <largex>183</largex>
          <largey>473</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Montreal</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Monteregie</border>
          <border>Laurentides</border>   
          <border>Lanaudiere</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>117</smallx>
          <smally>390</smally>
          <largex>141</largex>
          <largey>464</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Lanaudiere</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Montreal</border>
          <border>Laurentides</border>
          <border>Outaouais</border>
          <border>Mauricie</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>108</smallx>
          <smally>342</smally>
          <largex>130</largex>
          <largey>407</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Laurentides</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Montreal</border>
          <border>Lanaudiere</border>
          <border>Outaouais</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>75</smallx>
          <smally>386</smally>
          <largex>92</largex>
          <largey>459</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Outaouais</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Abitibi</border>
          <border>Mauricie</border>
          <border>Lanaudiere</border>
          <border>Laurentides</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>31</smallx>
          <smally>349</smally>
          <largex>39</largex>
          <largey>414</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Abitibi</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Outaouais</border>
          <border>Mauricie</border>
          <border>Baie-James</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>41</smallx>
          <smally>267</smally>
          <largex>51</largex>
          <largey>316</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Mauricie</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Saguenay</border>
          <border>Quebec</border>
          <border>Lanaudiere</border>
          <border>Outaouais</border>
          <border>Abitibi</border>
          <border>Baie-James</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>114</smallx>
          <smally>281</smally>
          <largex>139</largex>
          <largey>334</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Quebec</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Chaudiere</border>
          <border>Mauricie</border>
          <border>Saguenay</border>
          <border>Charlevoix</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>198</smallx>
          <smally>298</smally>
          <largex>239</largex>
          <largey>354</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Charlevoix</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
          <border>Saguenay</border>
          <border>Quebec</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>229</smallx>
          <smally>257</smally>
          <largex>277</largex>
          <largey>305</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Gaspesie</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Moncton</border>
          <border>Bas St-Laurent</border>
          <border>Anticosti</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>319</smallx>
          <smally>257</smally>
          <largex>355</largex>
          <largey>313</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Anticosti</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Gaspesie</border>
          <border>Minganie</border>
          <border>Iles de la Madeleine</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>382</smallx>
          <smally>237</smally>
          <largex>440</largex>
          <largey>271</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Iles de la Madeleine</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Anticosti</border>
          <border>Cape Breton</border>
          <border>P.E.I.</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>428</smallx>
          <smally>257</smally>
          <largex>500</largex>
          <largey>309</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Minganie</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Sept-Rivieres</border>
          <border>Anticosti</border>
          <border>Gros Morne</border>
          <border>Goose Bay</border>
          <border>Labrador City</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>385</smallx>
          <smally>197</smally>
          <largex>449</largex>
          <largey>224</largey>
          </coordinates>
          </territory>
          <territory>
          <name>Sept-Rivieres</name>
          <borders>
          <border>Minganie</border>
          <border>Charlevoix</border>
          <border>Saguenay</border>
          <border>Caniapiscau</border>
          <border>Labrador City</border>
          </borders>
          <coordinates>
          <smallx>264</smallx>
          <smally>224</smally>
          <largex>310</largex>
          <largey>248</largey>
          </coordinates>     
          </territory>
          </map>




There is 7 conts. and 34 territorys.

You can attack from any territory that has little dots connecting them from one territory to another, i.e. Duplessis can attack Anticostie but not to Gaspesie because there is no line of white dots connecting Duplessis to Gaspesie(if you mistake Anticostie for a island you can pass though(this is also the same for Magdalen)).

Previous Versions:
http://i.imagehost.org/0487/stlaurentlarge.jpg
http://i.imagehost.org/0663/stlaurentsmall.jpg
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee88 ... rence2.jpg

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 6:47 pm
by edbeard
I'm not sure how many times we can say that we can't really 'like' something when there's not much there. But, some comments to help you get going.


1. Even if this is the small map, I think it probably needs to be bigger.

2. Unless you get creative with the territory borders, you're going to have to find/add some impassables in there. BUT, I don't think fabricating these for a map about a real area makes much sense.

Do some research on maps of the region. Maybe there's a map online that splits it up the area so it creates 'continent's for you.

3. Don't worry about the side things like adding a flag, or a mini map. GET THE MAP GOING FIRST. Get a real map going. Worry about all this other stuff later.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:28 pm
by the_fatty
sry but this is way too small.

i like edbeard's advise about the finding a map. use it.

u will have to have more than 8 territories at least (because of 8-player games).

if u find a good map that helps, this could easily be a map, maybe the first couple of territories u have now could be the continents, then find out wat the areas inside should be.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:33 pm
by Kaplowitz
the_fatty: these are just continents

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:40 pm
by Gozar
As someone from the region, I would suggest a map of the entire Atlantic region: NB, NS, PEI, Cape Breton, Newfoundland and Eastern Quebec could be the continents. Maybe not so much Quebec as shown here:

Image



Unit_2 wrote:... the little "states" above Maine(USA)...


Here they are called provinces.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:43 pm
by edbeard
that could definitely work. And, it looks like you have five or six continents already (depends on where P.E.I. fits).

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 7:46 pm
by AndyDufresne
What Gozar posted looks immensely more interesting.


--Andy

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:00 pm
by Unit_2
Gozar wrote:As someone from the region, I would suggest a map of the entire Atlantic region: NB, NS, PEI, Cape Breton, Newfoundland and Eastern Quebec could be the continents. Maybe not so much Quebec as shown here:

Image



Unit_2 wrote:... the little "states" above Maine(USA)...


Here they are called provinces.



Ok, that sounds like a better idea, thanks.

I also knew they were provinces i just wasn't sure that IT was one of them.

I'll try to get one up tonight, if not proble by Friday or Saturday.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:05 pm
by Gozar
AndyDufresne wrote:What Gozar posted looks immensely more interesting.


--Andy


I always wanted a map of this area, but I cannot do the graphics, and figured there would be not a lot of interest in Eastern Canada.

Here is a map with the counties marked if you want some territory ideas:

Image

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:11 pm
by AndyDufresne
Gozar wrote:I always wanted a map of this area, but I cannot do the graphics, and figured there would be not a lot of interest in Eastern Canada.


I wouldn't think so either, but consider of the maps we've got in development or those that have made it up for live play.

It's all about the execution of an idea. If it's top notch, people will be much more receptive. If it's half-assed or drawn by a mule, that may doom an idea... It's treacherous!


--Andy

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:15 pm
by Unit_2
Ok guys, hows this?


Image

Edit: Dang it...it blured, does anyone know how to get it not to blur?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:28 pm
by Unit_2
Gozar wrote:
AndyDufresne wrote:What Gozar posted looks immensely more interesting.


--Andy


I always wanted a map of this area, but I cannot do the graphics, and figured there would be not a lot of interest in Eastern Canada.

Here is a map with the counties marked if you want some territory ideas:

Image


Gozar, what did you seach to get that with territorys?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:28 pm
by Gozar
My suggestion would be to remove Labrador and that big chunk of Quebec. Maybe just use the peninsula above New Brunswick. That way you can make the maritime provinces larger, to fit more territories.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:30 pm
by Gozar
Unit_2 wrote:Gozar, what did you seach to get that with territorys?


Maritime counties in google images

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:35 pm
by keiths31
I don't think you should remove Labrador as it is part of the province Newfoundland and Labrador. I would also think you should keep St. Pierre & Milquelon in the map as it is actaully a French colony. Could be used as a bonus +1 type of thing...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 8:55 pm
by Gozar
keiths31 wrote:I don't think you should remove Labrador as it is part of the province Newfoundland and Labrador. I would also think you should keep St. Pierre & Milquelon in the map as it is actaully a French colony. Could be used as a bonus +1 type of thing...


Granted it is a part of Newfoudland, but if using the provinces as "continents" then you will need them to make them larger to put territories within.

I am not a fan of those +1 bonuses for a single territory, but that is only my opinion. If something along those lines were to be considered, capital bonuses, such as on the Italy map, would be a better solution, I think.

Labrador is just so big and empty! This map should be "Maritime+Newfoundland(The Island not the Province)"
Although, having a territory named "Happy-Valley Goose Bay" would be fun. :P

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:04 pm
by keiths31
I agree with what you are saying, but from what I read most of the map makers here are very high on accuracy...that is the only reason I say you have to include Labrador. Even if it is one big large territory. Don't have to divide it up...

PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 9:05 pm
by edbeard
well this map has the same problem as the last one you posted. too small. chop off the top 1/4 of the map (maybe leave a little bit of Labrador) and zoom in so you can fit territories to do this area justice.

I don't think this map needs to be huge for the area, but at least 30 territories.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:45 pm
by valeria
I've made up about three maps so far trying to figure out an Atlantic Canada map. We played one on a dry/erase board last month and it worked out fairly well.

New Brunswick : 10 territories
Nova Scotia: 7 territories
Cape Breton: 5 territories, including sable island (I know Cape Breton is part of Nova Scotia, but it shouldn't be, we are very different from those who "live in the mainland")
Newfoundland: 13 territories

Maybe some ocean/lake bonuses similar to Great Lakes?
I am seriously all about this map. Let's make it happen. There's about 8 of us from Sydney, Cape Breton who are all active CC players. I'll link this thread in our team game.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 3:51 pm
by valeria
oh, and poor PEI: 3 territories

Pretty simialr to the county map shown on the previous page.
There are ferries that make for nice borders:
PEI - NS
NFLD - CB (one border in CB to two different borders in NFLD)
PEI - NB (bridge)

there could be a ferry from CB to Sable Island
More borders would have to be made from NFLD to NB i think.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 17, 2008 4:49 pm
by brokenflashlight
this is a great idea. get this done!

Update

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:22 am
by Unit_2
Ok...I've been workign on it for about a day trying to figure it out and here is what i got so far, it is not done yet this is just to show you what i am working on.

Image

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:54 pm
by valeria
It's not my map, but I have serious issues with PEI being part of Nova Scotia. haha... but really, It's looking good. Great idea with adding Quebec and Nunavik, makes for better border options.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:45 pm
by Unit_2
valeria wrote:It's not my map, but I have serious issues with PEI being part of Nova Scotia. haha... but really, It's looking good. Great idea with adding Quebec and Nunavik, makes for better border options.


Thanks :wink: do you really mean that or not?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:43 pm
by Unit_2
Ok, hows this?

Image

List of updates:
-Made P.E.I bigger.
-Made the island of Nova Scotia bigger.
-Changed colors around.
-Put the rest of the territorys in.
-Added the "é" in Québec.
-Changed the name of "Nova Scotia" to "Nova Scotia & P.E.I"