Famine V.19.3 pg1+35 [I] [Reworking]

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Continue, vacation, or abandon?

Poll ended at Wed Nov 12, 2008 2:23 pm

Continue
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Take a break and make another map then continue with this one.
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Postby Tieryn on Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:37 am

also. how far away can a resource be to fix famine? do you just have to hold one resource, and no famine affects you? that's not logical, that pears will stop you losing armies in Moor, or whatever.

Also perhaps colour code for severity of famine???
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Postby bryguy on Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:04 am

Tieryn wrote:also. how far away can a resource be to fix famine? do you just have to hold one resource, and no famine affects you? that's not logical, that pears will stop you losing armies in Moor, or whatever.


hmm, thats true, how about something like that 1 resource will counter famine 3-6, and 2 will counter famine 7-10, and 3 will counter famine 11?

Tieryn wrote:Also perhaps colour code for severity of famine???


hmm, thats a good idea, but could u explain a little more?
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Postby bryguy on Wed Jan 23, 2008 9:05 am

Tieryn wrote:It has to be made so that a person can completely understand what is going to happen to their troops at the beginning of a turn, without them having to read the accompanying forum thread :P. "Beware of famine" is not enough of an explanation. Perhaps "Famine affects the lands, each territory will lose x armies (depending on size? not sure how this is working) unless a nearby resource is held...



oh ok, how about "Famine affects the land, the larger famine number, the more it affects you"???
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Postby DiM on Wed Jan 23, 2008 12:46 pm

i have a problem with the gameplay. with famine to be more exact. if i understand this right if you have 11 terits or more you have -5 bonus.
and that' a real problem because in theory nobody can win this game.

let's assume i start with cardoce castle. obviously to win i have to get out of my castle and kill the others. from cardoce obviously i'll take corn which puts me to 3 terits and a bonus of -1. which basically eliminates the corn bonus. not worth it. so i won't take corn and instead i'll build in cardoce and plan to strike the closest castle. which is elifan and the quickest route means i'll have 7 terits when i reach the castle gates. that means i'll have -3 from famine so i'll have just +1 per turn. with such a shitty bonus and with all the troops i lost battling neutrals i surely won't be able to take elifan.

basically what i'm saying is that the famine is too high. the resources are usless. if i get 5 resources i will gain nothing because i'll be so stretched famine will kill me.

so the only way to win is to sit and build on your castle and hope some guy doesn't understand what famine is and stretches too far then go on the quickest route and take his castle.

also i'm curious what will happen when a guy gets -5 for famine and +4 for castle. he'll have a negative deployment. :lol:
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Postby bryguy on Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:07 pm

DiM wrote:i have a problem with the gameplay. with famine to be more exact. if i understand this right if you have 11 terits or more you have -5 bonus.
and that' a real problem because in theory nobody can win this game.

let's assume i start with cardoce castle. obviously to win i have to get out of my castle and kill the others. from cardoce obviously i'll take corn which puts me to 3 terits and a bonus of -1. which basically eliminates the corn bonus. not worth it. so i won't take corn and instead i'll build in cardoce and plan to strike the closest castle. which is elifan and the quickest route means i'll have 7 terits when i reach the castle gates. that means i'll have -3 from famine so i'll have just +1 per turn. with such a shitty bonus and with all the troops i lost battling neutrals i surely won't be able to take elifan.

basically what i'm saying is that the famine is too high. the resources are usless. if i get 5 resources i will gain nothing because i'll be so stretched famine will kill me.

so the only way to win is to sit and build on your castle and hope some guy doesn't understand what famine is and stretches too far then go on the quickest route and take his castle.

also i'm curious what will happen when a guy gets -5 for famine and +4 for castle. he'll have a negative deployment. :lol:


yea i have to make this more clear


see the numbers in the corners of the territorys? that tells u how much famine will affect that territory. So if a territory has a 1 in the corner, then it wont getaffected by famine, if it has an 11 in the corner, than u will lose 5 for holding it wihtout a resource
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Postby bryguy on Thu Jan 24, 2008 8:32 am

TO-DO(as far as i know for)
  • Make famine understandable
  • Add some graphix to the fishing dock to make it unique



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Postby InkL0sed on Fri Jan 25, 2008 5:30 pm

You can hold half the map with just one dock.
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Postby bryguy on Sat Jan 26, 2008 9:52 am

InkL0sed wrote:You can hold half the map with just one dock.




no you cant
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Postby edbeard on Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:24 pm

bryguy wrote:
InkL0sed wrote:You can hold half the map with just one dock.


no you cant


well it sure looks like Rongar is the only border from South to North
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Postby DiM on Sat Jan 26, 2008 5:37 pm

btw why did you "borrow" several names from AoR??
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Postby bryguy on Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:21 am

DiM wrote:btw why did you "borrow" several names from AoR??


oh i didnt notice that i had, could u point out which ones??
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Postby DiM on Sun Jan 27, 2008 12:11 pm

bryguy wrote:
DiM wrote:btw why did you "borrow" several names from AoR??


oh i didnt notice that i had, could u point out which ones??


rongar, mor...

plus several others that you switched 2 letters:

like aohe instead of aheo

there may be more i didn't look at all the names.
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Postby bryguy on Sun Jan 27, 2008 3:08 pm

DiM wrote:
bryguy wrote:
DiM wrote:btw why did you "borrow" several names from AoR??


oh i didnt notice that i had, could u point out which ones??


rongar, mor...

plus several others that you switched 2 letters:

like aohe instead of aheo

there may be more i didn't look at all the names.


didnt know rongar was from AoR, and Mor i had thought might be, but i can change both


and for aohe instead of aheo i was trying to think of names starting with a and for some reason i came up with aohe
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Postby bryguy on Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:19 pm

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changes:

added rivers and lakes
added more territories
put some stuff on fishing dock
moved a beach
tried to explain famine better


sorry it took like a month to get this up
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Postby zimmah on Tue Feb 12, 2008 1:32 pm

negatives

point 1:

i don't know what the hell you mean with 'famine'

point 2:

i don't see the purpose of the resources well enough explained

point 3:

i don't like the grapics

point 4:

the name 'fram' and 'farm' look alike too much, please change 'fram' to something else.

positives

point 1:

if worked out well enough, it could be a nice addition to the conquest maps

point 2:

finaly a map designedfor 8 players
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