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Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 4)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:37 pm
by bspride
bryguy wrote:1) Something I forgot to mention. The sides are still a little rough. Maybe try saving it, then zooming in to 800% and taking a small fuzzy 3 paintbrush around the edges. Dont do slow, careful motions, but rather fast, semi-careful motions. That way, since its at 800%, if you mess up slightly and cut into it, it should'nt make much of a difference.
2) Lower the opacity on the flowers. They are to bright and colorful compared to the rest of the map, so lowering the opactiy to 50 or below should help. Also, try playing around with the layer modes.
3) The title is also to bright, and its to blurry. Looks like your using Blackmoor LET, which is a pretty good choice, but maybe try adding some different fonts to your GIMP that may work better. Maybe something like this: http://www.dafont.com/olde-english.font
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If you cant figure out how to get it into GIMP, just drop me a pm

4) Also, dont rotate it. Make sure its just the right size so that it fits between the top of the red flower and that small hole in the paper right next to the northern tip of england. Also, maybe have the color black, and again lower the opacity to 50% or lower.
5) For a compass, you first need more room for it. Try stretching the width of the parchment some (50-100 pixels) and then you should have more room. And maybe after stretching it center england on it, and center the parchment.


Be sure to save before you try doing any of these things. Its always good to be careful!

1. will get to work on the sides
2. the flowers opacity is at 29.8 right now
3. thats the font im using...but will try your suggestion
4. I rotated so it would fit an still be big...will try not to rotate though...
5. Cant really stretch the parchment...My map is already at the limits for size... 840 * 800

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 4)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:51 pm
by bryguy
bspride wrote:5. Cant really stretch the parchment...My map is already at the limits for size... 840 * 800


stretching just the parchment shouldnt affect the canvas size. It will just make the parchment larger on the table

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 4)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:57 pm
by bspride
bryguy wrote:
bspride wrote:5. Cant really stretch the parchment...My map is already at the limits for size... 840 * 800


stretching just the parchment shouldnt affect the canvas size. It will just make the parchment larger on the table

ok gotya

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 4)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 7:03 pm
by bspride
Version 5!...added territory names...compass...increased parchment size...added title
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Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 5)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 8:50 pm
by bryguy
1) The compass needs to be a little larger
2) The names you added are more of continent names then territory names. Try researching for different names you can use
3) Now that the background of the map is looking better, you need to work on the gameplay and bonuses. I suggest having a bonus for holding london, since thats a major city

edit: maybe look at this

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... s%26sa%3DN

look at the full sized image, and look at the different images on the page

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 5)

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 9:25 pm
by whitestazn88
the countries in the middle of england look like they're gonna be cramped

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 5)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 3:39 pm
by bspride
so ive been thinking on how to incoporate impassable borders...im going to put in mountains and rivers...
I also plan on installing docks (thank you Natewolfman) so gameplay isnt so centralized...and holding continents will be harder...
I also will install battlegrounds from the War of the Roses...holding those will give you a bonus...
I will be adding legend later...perhaps in two or more updates
yet does anyone else have any other ideas?

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 6)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 6:34 pm
by bspride
Version 6
added rivers and docks...outlined the water...added houses of york and lancaster...enlarged compass
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Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 6)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:01 pm
by whitestazn88
rivers are impassables i'm assuming?

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 6)

PostPosted: Wed Aug 06, 2008 7:22 pm
by bspride
yes...im working on legend
and all docks connect

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 6)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:15 am
by gimil
Need some terr names and legends etc before I can consider this for stamp!

Right now I feel that there is to much deadspace not being used, maybe that will change with legends etc but I would like to see an incrase in the playable area size if at all possible.

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 7 P. 3)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:25 am
by bspride
Version 7
added legend...battles...moved compass...added text...
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Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 7 p.3)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:29 am
by gimil
Im concerened that this map might not work when downsized for the small. Have you taken this into consideration?

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 7 p.3)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:43 am
by bspride
gimil wrote:Im concerened that this map might not work when downsized for the small. Have you taken this into consideration?

Yes...im actively trying to fix this

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 7 p.3)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 10:45 am
by bspride
Here is the small version of the map
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Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 7 p.3)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:09 am
by gimil
I bid you good luck!

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 7 p.3)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:12 am
by bspride
so are you saying that it will work...or good luck you are screwed?

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 7 p.3)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:18 am
by MrBenn
It's looking nice, but I have no idea about gameplay. You should start working out territory names & bonusses to get an idea of how the map will play.

At the moment there is far too much wasted space, particularly on the small version. You can crop a lot closer to the coastline. Yes, you'll lose some of the table/parchment background, but it will be a lot clearer.

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 7 p.3)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:31 am
by gimil
bspride wrote:so are you saying that it will work...or good luck you are screwed?


Good luck as in its not going to be easy with that small!

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 7 p.3)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:37 am
by bspride
enlarged map size...see if you like it
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Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 7.5 p.4)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 3:58 pm
by whitestazn88
i like the way it's looking, except for the ports. i dunno what i'd recommend, but they look like little guns hanging off of england...

Re: War of the Roses Map Idea (Version 8 p.4)

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 4:09 pm
by bspride
Version 8
enlarged map...moved compass and legend...added names...added history...
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 8 p.4) with small map

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 6:56 pm
by bspride
here is the small Version 8 map
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Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 8 p.4) with small map

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 7:48 pm
by MrBenn
Your army circles are way too small on the small map - you need them to be about 22 or 24px diameter

Re: War of the Roses Map (Version 8 p.4) with small map

PostPosted: Thu Aug 07, 2008 9:05 pm
by bspride
MrBenn wrote:Your army circles are way too small on the small map - you need them to be about 22 or 24px diameter

yeah...i accidentally resized them when i resized the map...any other comments?