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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Industrial Helix on Sat Jan 09, 2010 9:08 pm

Is anyone jumping on this? I kind of think that the Ancient Greece map needs a revamp pretty bad... Mr K., are you willing to work on this any more and change a few things or are you offering this version as the only alternative?
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Evil DIMwit on Sat Jan 09, 2010 10:35 pm

Even if the originals have been lost, this new map as it is is leagues better than the old Ancient Greece, IMO.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby captainwalrus on Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:51 pm

Yes, surely this is worth continuing?
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Sun Jan 10, 2010 11:20 pm

I'm not really capable of making too many changes to the last iteration of the map. The layered file I was using to make it is long gone I believe, so I theres not much I can do to change it. Also I don't really have the time these days to go through the whole map-making process anymore.

So I'm willing to make a few changes (though i'm limited in what I can change), but basically i'm offering it as is. I remember a lot of people hated these mountains, so I can probably layer some better ones over the current ones.

edit: I saw someone had a good suggestion about making a small line to make the minotaur heads more clear. I can probably manage that without having the original layered version as well.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:03 am

So.. no then? Personally I think the newest version is leagues ahead of the old one, and I think it's definitely at the point where theres no real HUGE complaints left (other than the mountains, which can be changed).
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby captainwalrus on Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:18 pm

Yeah, the latest version is much better than the current one. Even if it isn't complete, the possibility of swapping the old one with this one should be suggested to lack.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mad-elph on Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:51 pm

No traction on this then?
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:33 pm

I was told I need to provide an actual update for this to get moving, which i'll do hopefully in the next couple weeks.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby captainwalrus on Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:58 pm

Mr. K wrote:I was told I need to provide an actual update for this to get moving, which i'll do hopefully in the next couple weeks.

That would be great to see.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:04 pm

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Hey everyone. Long ago I lost the layered photoshop file I was working from to make this, so I basically have no ability to make any changes to this. I brought this up before a few years ago and someone told me I still had to make some kind of update in order for it to be even considered? So here we are, I updated the mountains. I just put new better looking ones over top of the old ones.

I really don't have time or the ability to make any changes to this thing, but I think as it stands it is a huge upgrade from my original and I imagine most would agree.. take it or leave it I guess..
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:09 pm

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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Gilligan on Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:42 pm

I don't understand why this wasn't uploaded before.

Maybe because there was no small version?
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby tkr4lf on Thu Oct 25, 2012 10:44 pm

This looks 100x better than the version we have now.

Let's get this to Lack!
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:04 pm

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touched up the mountains and the minotaurs a bit more
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:10 pm

Small version is of course just a matter of resizing, which i'll happily do when/if there is a go-ahead.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:03 am

Would definitely like to see an updated version. :D


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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:15 am

This one *is* the updated version ;)

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Unfortunately as I say in the post a few above it, i'm pretty limited in what I am actually able to do as I don't have the original file, all I can do is play around with what is already there.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby AndyDufresne on Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:22 am

Sorry Mr. K, what I meant in my post was that I'd like to see an updated version of the map available for play, not demanding you to show an update in topic! :D My apologies for being unclear.


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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:42 am

My apologies for misreading you! Nice to see you're still around, by the way. :)
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby generalhead on Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:41 pm

The colors and the patterns are a lot better than the old ancient Greece. I like the dancing Indians and the ships in the water, I think they add to the map. The mountains are definitely sweet looking. I am a big fan of this map, I have played a lot of games here and I think an update would be nice.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby koontz1973 on Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:24 pm

Mr. K, send a PM to thenobodies80 and ask him what the procedure is not for revamps. The last few had to go through the main foundry process and beta again to make sure the new map had no problems.

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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby tkr4lf on Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:05 am

Why would this have to go through the foundry process though?

The gameplay is exactly the same, it's just updated graphics.

I think we can all agree that it looks a lot better than what we have now, so why all the extra bs?
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:16 am

Because people will spot mistakes that the map maker may not. The last few went through are

Nordic Counties
Drug Wars
Portugal
North America (and that was a competition winner)

Just because it is a revamp of an existing map, it needs to go through graphics, xml and beta testing again to make sure their are no problems with the new graphics.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Sat Oct 27, 2012 3:16 am

>I think we can all agree that it looks a lot better than what we have now, so why all the extra bs?

Lol i've been wondering this for 4 years now. ;)

Everything is exactly the same as the map that is being played on now and has been played since 2006 I believe. The coordinates of the borders, territory names, troop number locations are all the same. It's just pretty, new (well ...), graphics.

Still I understand that there is a beta process so I have no problem with this going through that as it only makes sense, as long as it's understood that if somehow there was a problem, there isn't much I can do graphically to fix it.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby koontz1973 on Sat Oct 27, 2012 4:22 am

Mr. K wrote:>I think we can all agree that it looks a lot better than what we have now, so why all the extra bs?-

It looks better and no one is disputing that. As for the extra BS, why should other map makers go through a process while you get a pass?
Mr. K wrote:as long as it's understood that if somehow there was a problem, there isn't much I can do graphically to fix it.

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