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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Gilligan on Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:41 pm

What do people think of the sea route circling the outer Islands of the Kyklades? Are they neccessary? I think if theres nothing connecting them it looks uniform enough for people to know, but Gilligan had a point about the easternmost island.


What about naming it the Islands of Kyklades? Or Kyklades Islands? That would make it clearer; but I would either change the name (But I think you said you didn't want to) or move the easternmost island a little closer.

I don't think the route around the islands are necessary.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby pancakemix on Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:45 pm

Move the word Zakynthos down a little. It's hard to see the connection there.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Kaplowitz on Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:47 pm

I very much dislike the mountains...but the rest is looking good! :)
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Androidz on Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:48 pm

Due colorshcheme the Asia Minor works, but the colour aint as lively like the other colours you've chosen.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby InkL0sed on Tue Aug 19, 2008 2:52 pm

I think Zakynthos is the wrong font.

I like the mountains.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby gimil on Tue Aug 19, 2008 5:07 pm

Alright time to get this REVAMP in gear :mrgreen:

Here is your basic REVAMP stamps:

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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby mibi on Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:23 am

this is quenchable at this point.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby yeti_c on Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:46 am

Wow...

I think the old AG map is pretty good (definitely not my first choice for a revamp)...

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However - this version is uber sweet - personally I can't see any problems with it as is...

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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby MrBenn on Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:12 am

The ocean paths around the island helps to show that the territory is All the islands...

I like the look of this ;-)
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby whitestazn88 on Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:48 am

the mountains kinda look like broccoli
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby ZeakCytho on Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:55 pm

I don't like the ocean texture. It feels too strong - maybe just lowering the opacity will help.

I think the map would feel much more cohesive if there was only one font used for all the territories, and I think this should be the Asia Minor font.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby yeti_c on Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:08 pm

ZeakCytho wrote:I think the map would feel much more cohesive if there was only one font used for all the territories, and I think this should be the Asia Minor font.


Er - isn't the font the same all round?!

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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby ZeakCytho on Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:12 pm

yeti_c wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:I think the map would feel much more cohesive if there was only one font used for all the territories, and I think this should be the Asia Minor font.


Er - isn't the font the same all round?!

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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Wed Aug 20, 2008 3:04 pm

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The font should all be uniform now. Got rid of the route around the Kyklades islands and called it "Kyklades Islands" to ease confusion. I lowered the strength of the ocean just a little bit too.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby MrBenn on Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:58 pm

I think that you probably need to put the circular sea-path around Kyklades back... those dead-ends look a bit confusing ;-)

The ocean texture looks better, although I'd be inclined to lighten it a fraction more.

Personally I'm not sold on the choice of font - it feels a bit too cartoony.
edit: I like the look of SPAchmim or SPIonic that I have just found on this site [clicky]

I already prefer this version to the old one though ;-) Keep up the good work ;-)
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby edbeard on Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:21 pm

overall it's quite good. some people already brought up a few things so I won't double on those but the one I will is the mountains. I'm not sure if it's the colour or the shape or both but I don't like it. The colour bleeds a bit to the north into some territories. It might just be the green on green. But then you have a brown to the north so maybe try something dark?
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Gilligan on Wed Aug 20, 2008 5:36 pm

MrBenn wrote:I think that you probably need to put the circular sea-path around Kyklades back... those dead-ends look a bit confusing ;-)

The ocean texture looks better, although I'd be inclined to lighten it a fraction more.

Personally I'm not sold on the choice of font - it feels a bit too cartoony.
edit: I like the look of SPAchmim or SPIonic that I have just found on this site [clicky]

I already prefer this version to the old one though ;-) Keep up the good work ;-)


If something circular goes, it should be something that isn't an attack route
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Wed Aug 20, 2008 7:28 pm

I'm not totally sold on the font at this point, I actually preferred the other one I tried out but it didn't seem to popular. Both the ones you suggested would look awful in my opinion. The one doesn't look Greek at all, and the other uses actual Greek characters which wont work.

I don't think anything is really needed for Kyklades at this point, now that the name stretches out there. Plus the word "Islands" should explain it. It may be confusing at first look but not enough that someone wouldn't figure it out quickly, in my opinion.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby oaktown on Wed Aug 20, 2008 8:48 pm

if there's going to be a revamp here, some of the little problems with the map should be discussed and addressed. My biggest problem with the map is that numbers with color codes run off the right side of the map - Prygia needs a bump to the left. And the old army circles are so dark it actually makes the blue numbers harder to read.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:11 pm

If you'd looked at the most recent version of the map, you'd see that all those things have already been taken care of.
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby oaktown on Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:43 pm

Mr. K wrote:If you'd looked at the most recent version of the map, you'd see that all those things have already been taken care of.

Ah, missed the version with army shadows... but the phrygia circle still looks a bit close to the edge.

And I forgot to mention - it looks really good. :D
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Incandenza on Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:46 pm

This looks a damn sight better than the current map.

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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby MrBenn on Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:41 am

Mr. K wrote:I'm not totally sold on the font at this point, I actually preferred the other one I tried out but it didn't seem to popular. Both the ones you suggested would look awful in my opinion. The one doesn't look Greek at all, and the other uses actual Greek characters which wont work.

Whoops :oops:
How about this font: http://www.dafont.com/ancient-geek.font? It uses Greek characters that look like the standard alphabet... although I think it looks a little too clean :?
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby Mr. K on Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:03 pm

No way. Nothing I hate more then when people use greek characters incorrectly to write in english (like when Sigma is used as an E).

As for the Phyrigia circle, I'm not going to change the XML at all so i'm not going to move it. Sorry :\
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Re: An Ancient Greek Revamp

Postby pepperonibread on Thu Aug 21, 2008 3:19 pm

Mr. K wrote:No way. Nothing I hate more then when people use greek characters incorrectly to write in english (like when Sigma is used as an E).

As for the Phyrigia circle, I'm not going to change the XML at all so i'm not going to move it. Sorry :\


Not change the XML? :?
It would honestly take about a minute to edit the coordinates if you needed to. Heck, I'd do it for you if you like...
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