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Re: Spain - Draft Updated

Postby Merker on Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:17 pm

  • I'll see into that Danyael.
  • Well, I've allready got gimp, I'm good ad it but to be frank, I find hard making a map.
  • I think I may get someone to do the graphics for me, basicly as a co-cartographer.
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby Danyael on Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:00 am

i work for the next couple days but i can make up something in cs3 for you to look at if you want
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby Merker on Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:14 am

M'kay, so are your intentions to help me throughout making the map of Spain as a co-cartographer?
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby danfrank on Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:25 am

There already is an IBERIA map .. the only difference i see from the draft you have posted are the islands off the east coast
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby Merker on Tue Apr 21, 2009 12:59 am

This is spain! Not Portugal and Spain, think before you post.
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby sailorseal on Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:55 am

Possibly an inset for the capital and IT HAS TO BE BIGGER
100% MUST
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby Merker on Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:28 am

Yes Sailor, definitely, just waiting upon Danyael's map, maybe we can possibly use Danyael's graphics and my plan and xml to make a nice map.
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby Industrial Helix on Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:20 am

If you still need some help with graphics, PM and I'd be glad to lend a hand.
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby sailorseal on Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:22 pm

While we wait for quality graphics try and develop an idea image for him to work from
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby Danyael on Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:25 pm

sailorseal wrote:While we wait for quality graphics try and develop an idea image for him to work from


that would be great cause this is your idea i'll do my best for you i'll start today and pm u the image really soon
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby whitestazn88 on Tue Apr 21, 2009 4:44 pm

wait, maybe i'm confused... isn't there already a spain map?
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby Danyael on Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:27 pm

Danyael wrote:
i got to work a few hours on the map
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before i move anyfuther
i have a few things to ask
1. Colour Palette
if you could make a palette you would like the colours to be unfortunately i am very colour blind
and just stating the names of the colors does not work because you might get something else
or do you want me to just fly with some colours for now
2. territ issues
as i have this drawn its follows the potitcal map 95% Asturias, Cantabria, Navarra
and Rioja from what i found do not have inner counties. From what i remember from my travels
Pais Vasco has three counties and extremadura has 3-4 not just 2 but i may be wrong.
do you want the small north provinces to be part of one bonus if you can't find more info on it
3. Fonts
What would you like me to use


just so everyone can see i sent this to merker
yes its not complete but i had some question as you can see and i'm pretty sure merker wouldn't mind other ideas or suggestions based on the questions i posed
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby Merker on Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:48 pm

Nice! Don't bother emailing the map, I'll just get it from your post.

I sent you your answers and I'll be doing the pallete very soon.
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby danfrank on Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:50 pm

whitestazn88 wrote:wait, maybe i'm confused... isn't there already a spain map?



i suggested the same thing... but was told this is spain not portugal and spain.. Which clearly makes for a more exciting map...
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby whitestazn88 on Tue Apr 21, 2009 10:21 pm

danfrank wrote:
whitestazn88 wrote:wait, maybe i'm confused... isn't there already a spain map?



i suggested the same thing... but was told this is spain not portugal and spain.. Which clearly makes for a more exciting map...


how is this inherently new or whatever it is that is the first question of making a map?
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Re: Spain - Draft Updated - GFX HELP NEEDED

Postby Merker on Tue Apr 21, 2009 11:21 pm

danfrank wrote:
whitestazn88 wrote:wait, maybe i'm confused... isn't there already a spain map?



i suggested the same thing... but was told this is spain not portugal and spain.. Which clearly makes for a more exciting map...


Please don't ever post on this thread again.

There's a map for;

Iberia
Portugal

Why should Spain be left out? If you like chucking a sad on this thread I'm guessing you chucked a sad the Portugal map.
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Re: Spain - Draft V2

Postby whitestazn88 on Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:50 am

well, the portugal map is an inherently different game. portugal presents us with a much smaller area of land, and is broken up according to portugese regional lines(i'm assuming this).

from what i and the person whom you've quoted have noticed is that although spain does deserve its own map, the gameplay you are presenting is basically the same.

from what i've seen of your map, the "continent" regions look almost exactly the same as those in iberia. the only difference i see is the lack of portugal, but really its the same map.

all i'll say for the rest of this map's development, but it would be a shame if the people here let this get to the main foundry...
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Re: Spain - Draft V2

Postby thenobodies80 on Wed Apr 22, 2009 2:43 am

yes actually is very similar..but you can work on gameplay and graphic to do a new type of map.

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Re: Spain - Draft V2

Postby Merker on Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:10 am

Well me and Danyael have thought of some new features and they'll be on the front post.
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Re: Spain - Draft V2

Postby Danyael on Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:45 am

yes the areas are close to iberia i totally agree i used all my road maps from my travels so the territs are the political territs

as for gameplay the idea i gave to merker was that east ports can attack the balears illes and balears illes can attck canary illes which can attack a coruna opening up different strategics options
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Re: Spain - Draft V2

Postby MrBenn on Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:45 am

Here's the existing Iberia map(which contains Portugal as well as Spain):
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And here's the current draft of Spain:
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There are obviously going to be some geographic similarities between the two, as Spain is the larger of the Iberian countries.
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Adding the Spanish islands is a good start, as it will offer something subtley different. Most importantly though, will be to devleop some sort of theme... you say that you have enjoyed travelling around Spain - why not try to do some sort of "Spain visitor guide", or "Backpacking routes", or "tourist destinations", or pick up another theme that you could use to bring the map to life... These are just suggestions that might help to form your plans for future development ;-)
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Re: Spain - Draft V2

Postby sailorseal on Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:31 am

[quote="MrBenn"]Spain visitor guide", or "Backpacking routes", or "tourist destinations"/quote]
I dig this Idea
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I would style it like this, not border out areas but have them connect with lines
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Re: Spain - Draft V2

Postby whitestazn88 on Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:36 pm

a backbacking thru spain map that has trails like midkemil or that world cities map idea would be a pretty good idea i think...
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Re: Spain - Draft V2

Postby Danyael on Wed Apr 22, 2009 8:42 pm

MrBenn wrote:Adding the Spanish islands is a good start, as it will offer something subtley different. Most importantly though, will be to devleop some sort of theme... you say that you have enjoyed travelling around Spain - why not try to do some sort of "Spain visitor guide", or "Backpacking routes", or "tourist destinations", or pick up another theme that you could use to bring the map to life... These are just suggestions that might help to form your plans for future development ;-)


well since i have journals and road maps alike for the time i backpacked thru out spain i could incorperate this at ease and actually what has been going on in the back of my mind for months but it is merker idea so depends on what he wants
but yes this is what i want to gear towards


not a big fan of routes since it limits colours quite a bit (being colour blind and all)
but i could maybe have some routes

i can incorporate bullfight arenas as a "hold five to get" bonus system

and as a favor sailorseal could you please not post a bunch of different maps(that do not focus on spain)to explain things or at least spoiler them
i would appreciate this alot
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Re: Spain - Draft V2

Postby Merker on Wed Apr 22, 2009 10:31 pm

We are making a unique game play, back-forward pms are easing us through the ports-canary islands idea, we're selecting bonus cities like;

Madrid (duh)
Valencia
Salamanca
Barcelona
Santiago

Seville
Corboda
Granada

I was also thinking, include Spanish West Africa to spice it up a bit as the Canary islands are real close to Spanish West Africa.
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