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Re: Game Statistics

Postby mpjh on Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:47 pm

I already shut off Bob statistics and use this update -- like it, especially that the number are black -- never could read the damn yellow numbers. Now if you can just get clickable maps to work when the game chat is at the top it would be great.

As for fog - always had fog analyzer, so no change.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby registered_user on Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:48 pm

I wish conquerclub weren't 1280 pixels wide. Honestly. w3schools says that close to half of all web traffic is only 1024 px wide -- and many of us who are don't browse full screen.

I get the value of the data, I've used a bookmarklet that does this for years. However, I only need the data once in a while, not all the time, and side scrolling sucks.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby gooniekillah on Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:50 pm

this is the worst update i have ever seen.
part of being a good player is taking the time to analyze your opponents territories adn stats for yourself and putting them in a chart for the unskilled or lazy player takes away a lot of strategy.
this is a horrible addition.
3 thumbs down
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby hoya24 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:54 pm

The previous update with number of cards was great. I play from my iPhone and can't scroll the log. But this new update isn't good. Number of territories is nice, but number of armies is too much. Whoever takes the time to count gets a small advantage and whoever doesn't count, well that's their choice and their problem. Please get rid of total armies!!!
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby rotocub on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:08 pm

Thumbs down on this one. :(
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Jippd on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:09 pm

I like this update. I use CM but tried to download bob and could not figure it out. This definitely will save me counting players territs and troop counts as I often do.

I agree there should be a disable button...why not options are always nice.F

I also think this should be a premium only feature. Why not give us that pay an advantage.

A possible suggestion for those that think it is unfair...perhaps make it display only your information and not all players information.

I have never used BOB so don't know if it shows troops due...but I think it is pointless to have a FOW game and a troops due number that updates constantly. If someone gets a bonus it will be easily noticeable instead of just showing up as a neutral taken. Those of us that know can figure what their troops due went up and likely pinpoint which bonus they took...where before it could be a random guess and chance of luck.

However if BOB does it I can see what you guys are doing it to compete, and I say why not, if other people have it I want it to and I can't dl or figure out BOB.

Anyways overall I like the update
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Optimus Prime on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:12 pm

Bruceswar wrote:Give the people want they want! Let us be able to disable it and use CC like we used to!

You still can. Update BOB to the latest version and ignore the box to the right of the map. Spending the extra time necessary to make every single update that not everyone likes an optional feature is not an effective or efficient use of lackattack's programming time.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:13 pm

gooniekillah wrote:this is the worst update i have ever seen.
part of being a good player is taking the time to analyze your opponents territories adn stats for yourself and putting them in a chart for the unskilled or lazy player takes away a lot of strategy.
this is a horrible addition.
3 thumbs down

You do not have 3 thumbs.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby mpjh on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:17 pm

Are you sure?
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby the.killing.44 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:19 pm

mpjh wrote:Are you sure?

More than I'd like to be.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby gooniekillah on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:21 pm

i didnt know that BOB even existed. and the fact that there is a fog analyzer means that you must just suck at this game if you need to cheat like that. i'm pretty upset but i guess that doesn't make those programs (or the new update) go away. automized risk is for fags.
not too happy about any of this.
whatever
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Uncle Death on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:24 pm

I like that it puts us that don't use bob on a more level playing field but it also feels like I was put on a special olympics team.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:25 pm

Optimus Prime wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:Give the people want they want! Let us be able to disable it and use CC like we used to!

You still can. Update BOB to the latest version and ignore the box to the right of the map. Spending the extra time necessary to make every single update that not everyone likes an optional feature is not an effective or efficient use of lackattack's programming time.



BOB Makes CC really slow.... Nobody in their right mind plays with BOB on that is into speed freestyle. Just let it disable it!
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby video_otto on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:27 pm

I like it, it helps me to decided on some of my moves. The other thing i still have the green dot telling me its my turn so i dont think that is a programming thing. the clock also works just fine for me. i like the fact that the clock keeps counting down when in the game.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby gooniekillah on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:28 pm

this new update and the fact that people have been using cheat programs (especially fog analyzer wtf) this whole time pretty much makes me want to quit playing on this site. but apparently that wouldnt do me any good as i've probably been playing against the same cheaters for the last 2 1/2 years anyway.
cool, i'm glad you guys need to cheat to get your ranks. woo. you guys are so good at this game
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Optimus Prime on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:29 pm

Bruceswar wrote:
Optimus Prime wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:Give the people want they want! Let us be able to disable it and use CC like we used to!

You still can. Update BOB to the latest version and ignore the box to the right of the map. Spending the extra time necessary to make every single update that not everyone likes an optional feature is not an effective or efficient use of lackattack's programming time.



BOB Makes CC really slow.... Nobody in their right mind plays with BOB on that is into speed freestyle. Just let it disable it!

My point still stands. It is not affecting your ability to play a speed game. If you don't use BOB anyways, then like I said, ignore the box, it isn't doing you any harm.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby K-dub on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:33 pm

i love the new settings!!! 1 question though...how does this work on fog games?
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby drunkmonkey on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:36 pm

gooniekillah wrote:i didnt know that BOB even existed. and the fact that there is a fog analyzer means that you must just suck at this game if you need to cheat like that. i'm pretty upset but i guess that doesn't make those programs (or the new update) go away. automized risk is for fags.
not too happy about any of this.
whatever


Out of curiosity, which part of this update makes one a "fag"?
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:40 pm

Optimus Prime wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
Optimus Prime wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:Give the people want they want! Let us be able to disable it and use CC like we used to!

You still can. Update BOB to the latest version and ignore the box to the right of the map. Spending the extra time necessary to make every single update that not everyone likes an optional feature is not an effective or efficient use of lackattack's programming time.



BOB Makes CC really slow.... Nobody in their right mind plays with BOB on that is into speed freestyle. Just let it disable it!

My point still stands. It is not affecting your ability to play a speed game. If you don't use BOB anyways, then like I said, ignore the box, it isn't doing you any harm.


That box makes me scroll..... How is it not effecting me?
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby trooper29 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:42 pm

I'm all for the new game stats! It adds a new dimension to the game.

If some players don't like it, perhaps they could be given the option of turning it off ( just like the large map view)?

Another suggestion: new troops for eliminated players should read "0", not "3".
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby OutSider on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:44 pm

drunkmonkey wrote:
OutSider wrote:My only problem is that in a fog game, players should not know how many territories others have..... That's one of the points of fog......


As it's been said time and time again, the game log has always shown this and B.O.B. already displays it for you.

The only people complaining about this either a)don't know about B.O.B. or b)have B.O.B. and are upset they don't have an advantage anymore. Nothing about this is new for those who knew how to find it, so please stop whining.


Wow, we aren't allowed to voice our thoughts.... I didn't know drunkmonkey was in charge of this place.......
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Gold Knight on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:52 pm

gooniekillah wrote:this new update and the fact that people have been using cheat programs (especially fog analyzer wtf) this whole time pretty much makes me want to quit playing on this site. but apparently that wouldnt do me any good as i've probably been playing against the same cheaters for the last 2 1/2 years anyway.
cool, i'm glad you guys need to cheat to get your ranks. woo. you guys are so good at this game


Dont have the same negative attitude, but kind of agree with this. Knew all along about BOB and "whatever-monkeys" people were downloading, but call me a CC-purist in that I actually enjoyed analyzing territory counts and bonuses on my own, added a little something to the game for me. This almost makes it kind of boring to look to a screen on the right and basically have the game summed up for me...

As i said, if people really feel the need for BOB and other programs, i have no problem with it, but kind of dumbs down the game for me. As bruce and others have said, I wouldnt even mind if there was a disable button so i just didnt have to look at it, but to me it would seem that most established players on this site can scroll 10 lines up the log to figure out someones territory count and not feel the need for this...

But not really losing sleep over this, ill just ignore it.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby -Maximus- on Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:52 pm

How do I turn it off? I have to look 6" on my cpu to see the card amounts...boo!
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Avenger95050 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:02 pm

I don't like it, it just makes it easy for the lazy. Like the government seems intent on redistributing my money to those who don't want to work, CC has become a liberal organization coddling the weak at the expense of the strong. What's next, an undo button? GD I hate socialism. Mike
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby drunkmonkey on Sun Nov 29, 2009 11:09 pm

OutSider wrote:
drunkmonkey wrote:
OutSider wrote:My only problem is that in a fog game, players should not know how many territories others have..... That's one of the points of fog......


As it's been said time and time again, the game log has always shown this and B.O.B. already displays it for you.

The only people complaining about this either a)don't know about B.O.B. or b)have B.O.B. and are upset they don't have an advantage anymore. Nothing about this is new for those who knew how to find it, so please stop whining.


Wow, we aren't allowed to voice our thoughts.... I didn't know drunkmonkey was in charge of this place.......


You're allowed to say whatever you want. In this case, you were wrong. I thought you'd be happy to learn something new.
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