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Re: Game Statistics

Postby MyTurnToWin on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:44 pm

AGREE!!! I am one of those unable to download necessary software to be able to use BOB.

Are the ones "screaming" about the change people who just have trouble with ANY change? Or ones who don't like their "advantage" being taken away?

Just wondering. :D
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby alex951 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:45 pm

sully800 wrote:I'm just curious about how this feature is taking up space for you? It's on the far right of the screen, and does not push anything else important off the screen and does not move the position of anything else in the game. I understand if you don't want or use the stats, but it seems like the current display system is good because it doesn't prevent you from seeing anything else.

If the stats were below the map and above the game chat (like BOB) then it would push the game chat down. But how does being off the right side of the screen adversely affect you if you don't care about the stats.

cpurcell wrote:I really think that there should be a way to disable it. What harm could possibly come from it? The only people who'd probably disable it was the people using BOB... I hate the updat, if people want that info, they should have to get BOB.
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Not everyone uses Firefox, and even some that do cannot install software scripts like Grease Monkey. But the biggest argument against your statement is many new recruits don't even know BOB exists and they are at a disadvantage for quite some time. The game should be fully functioning from the website itself, any additional downloads should give the user no advantage because then you have an uneven playing field.


so why not have a disable button? kinda like the online hide button? oh and some ppl like having that wasted space. this update its like bird shit on your windshield to some ppl.

but hey i like it. i was just bitching about the green dot :D
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby morleyjoe on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:48 pm

It needs a hide button. Also, does it make the maps smaller?
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby sully800 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:49 pm

I personally think having a disable button is fine (if it would not take long to code), but I also think it is unnecessary for the reasons enumerated above.

If coding the button would prevent lack from updating any other feature on the site, I'd much rather not have it. If it was a very simple fix then sure, I think people should be able to turn off the stats.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Bruceswar on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:52 pm

sully800 wrote:I'm just curious about how this feature is taking up space for you? It's on the far right of the screen, and does not push anything else important off the screen and does not move the position of anything else in the game. I understand if you don't want or use the stats, but it seems like the current display system is good because it doesn't prevent you from seeing anything else.

If the stats were below the map and above the game chat (like BOB) then it would push the game chat down. But how does being off the right side of the screen adversely affect you if you don't care about the stats.

cpurcell wrote:I really think that there should be a way to disable it. What harm could possibly come from it? The only people who'd probably disable it was the people using BOB... I hate the updat, if people want that info, they should have to get BOB.
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When you have maps on large you have to scroll to see everything... I do not like that at all.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby cpurcell on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:52 pm

sully800 wrote:I'm just curious about how this feature is taking up space for you? It's on the far right of the screen, and does not push anything else important off the screen and does not move the position of anything else in the game. I understand if you don't want or use the stats, but it seems like the current display system is good because it doesn't prevent you from seeing anything else.

If the stats were below the map and above the game chat (like BOB) then it would push the game chat down. But how does being off the right side of the screen adversely affect you if you don't care about the stats.

cpurcell wrote:I really think that there should be a way to disable it. What harm could possibly come from it? The only people who'd probably disable it was the people using BOB... I hate the updat, if people want that info, they should have to get BOB.
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It does push the "spoils" all the way to the right, which means that I have to scroll to the right to see it. Yes, I know, BoB gives you card counts as well, but following your assumption that many people can't get BoB...

What's the harm in making a hide/disable button? So what if I just don't like looking at christmas colors on the right side of my map?

I just don't see why people think that a hide/disable button, which would put the choice in the hands of the individual user, is a bad idea... :-s
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Mr Changsha on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:57 pm

I like it and it looks great on my screen...though I have a wide monitor so that might be helping.

Also glad to be rid of BOB...the only extra information I ever required was the troop numbers and territories so I can now go back to my super-fast, unmodded internet explorer.

Woot!

Finally, I am sure this will help CC's new players compete on a more even playing field. The farmers will be weeping...

Well done Lack..best update in my time here,

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Re: Game Statistics

Postby nazrat on Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:58 pm

nazrat wrote:I like the addition. But on the "My Games" page, I liked being able to tell who's turn it was without having to enter Each game. Why did that change? Can it be put back on?


whatever it was, it is back to normal... so disregard. :D
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby ljex on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:00 pm

Put the amount of cards where it used to be the new spot is so much more annoying to look for. Other than that love the change.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Optimus Prime on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:01 pm

Excellent addition that levels the playing field. Great job, lackattack! BOB is no more on my computer. :)
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Namor on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:08 pm

This change is great.

I've been using BOB for quite a while and find I miss it, when I'm forced to play from a different computer.

Also this is one up on BOB, it gives a full region count in the fog as well. With BOB, you still needed to count regions in a foggy game.

=D>
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby slowreactor on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:12 pm

Namor wrote:This change is great.

I've been using BOB for quite a while and find I miss it, when I'm forced to play from a different computer.

Also this is one up on BOB, it gives a full region count in the fog as well. With BOB, you still needed to count regions in a foggy game.

=D>


do you have an outdated version of BOB? it definitely counts even in fog...
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Mr Changsha on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:12 pm

Optimus Prime wrote:Excellent addition that levels the playing field. Great job, lackattack! BOB is no more on my computer. :)


Yes, exactly! I sacrificed a lot of speed for that mod...if you have as many 100+ round games as I, then BOB slows your play time by about three million, billion, squillion percent.

Again, Lack you are a genius!

Ignore the farmers with their 'but now I won't have an unfair advantage over new players...' crap.

Trust a chap who makes his points the fair way...

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Re: Game Statistics

Postby whitestazn88 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:16 pm

sounds good... don't have any games going to check it out yet tho
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Pedronicus on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:26 pm

my clickable map add on seems to be weird (i've updated to the newest bob)
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Namor on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:29 pm

slowreactor wrote:
Namor wrote:This change is great.

I've been using BOB for quite a while and find I miss it, when I'm forced to play from a different computer.

Also this is one up on BOB, it gives a full region count in the fog as well. With BOB, you still needed to count regions in a foggy game.

=D>


do you have an outdated version of BOB? it definitely counts even in fog...


I have 4.9.7

So I don't understand why mine only counts those visable (and always has) :?: :?
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby ender516 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:35 pm

Those people who are looking for a hide/disable button should ask sherkat to make it a feature of BOB. If a script can add things to the page, surely it can take things away.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby OutSider on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:09 pm

My only problem is that in a fog game, players should not know how many territories others have..... That's one of the points of fog......
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby soundman on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:12 pm

Great update! =D> My only problem is where the spoils are now. Could you change it back to the left side of the names?
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Seamus O Malley on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:16 pm

I don't usually offer negative comments but I really do not care for this feature at all. If you can't count on your own, I don't want to play with you. Period.

New players will still make the same stupid mistakes regardless of the territory counter.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby drunkmonkey on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:20 pm

OutSider wrote:My only problem is that in a fog game, players should not know how many territories others have..... That's one of the points of fog......


As it's been said time and time again, the game log has always shown this and B.O.B. already displays it for you.

The only people complaining about this either a)don't know about B.O.B. or b)have B.O.B. and are upset they don't have an advantage anymore. Nothing about this is new for those who knew how to find it, so please stop whining.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Zambuti on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:23 pm

I hate this upgrade. Make the players do this themselves!! Why are you making it easier! That is part of the game. Get rid of this, or make it optional.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby Johnohue on Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:44 pm

Not really liking it. I already have BOB so it's kinda pointless, plus it seems to be slowing down my browser. Maybe you could make it an optional change, so those of us with BOB who don't need this change can keep it the same.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby luv2tri2 on Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:01 pm

uff-da. not liking this update. wish the chat was in place of these unnecessary statistics.
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Re: Game Statistics

Postby denominator on Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:03 pm

I know I'm just echoing everything else that people have said, but larger maps push the stats bar off my screen to the right. This isn't a huge issue, just that the spoils are on the far right of the stats bar, so I am required to scroll in every game to see how many spoils a player has. The only change I recommend for this is to move the spoils column to the left by the players names like it was before. Otherwise, great update Lack!
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