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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby impassive on Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:34 pm

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b00060 wrote:The new map is ok, but it should be added as an option, not replacing Classic Shapes. BRING BACK CLASSIC SHAPES!

I know the decision has been made, but I can't see the down side of keeping classic shapes and classic art available for play. I'll miss them.

The downside has been discussed in various other topics---since they all use the same game play, it creates multiple unnecessary entries for the server databases to keep track of. Streamlining everything into 1 map option is more efficient.


--Andy

I respect the decision that's been made, but listing efficiency as a reason is a little bit silly. They are maps like any other CC maps. And 'unnecessary' is very subjective in this case. I don't guess any map on CC is 'necessary'. Either desired or not desired by members, but not 'necessary'.

If you say it was a policy decision based on how they want the site to be, no multiple maps with identical gameplay, I say ok, decision made. I'll still miss them.
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby impassive on Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:37 pm

Btw, just because I wish the old classics would stay doesn't mean I don't like the new map. It is nice on the eyes.
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby skillfusniper33 on Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:44 pm

Great work sully, thanks for giving the classic a new style other than just shapes.

It is really needed for the site to look much more advanced.
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby wazabii on Wed Dec 30, 2009 10:56 pm

Love the new map... was thrown off seeing it mid-game, but great job none the less!!!
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby Code_Zero on Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:26 am

Yeah it is slightly confusing to look at with all the lines, the classic shapes was really easy to see the connections between territories whereas this one is harder on the eyes
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby mibi on Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:12 am

love the title work!
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby jesterhawk on Thu Dec 31, 2009 1:19 am

That looks awesome!!
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby stahrgazer on Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:58 am

I can't tell where Europe ends and Asia begins
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby alstillman on Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:01 am

I like this map a lot, but it could be made a lot better by somehow making the different continents easier to tell apart. It is somewhat confusing, especially between asia and europe. Otherwise great work.
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby natty dread on Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:08 am

How can anyone want shapes over this?? The thing was ugly! (no offense to the maker.)

=D> for new classic
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby MartijnF on Thu Dec 31, 2009 4:26 am

natty_dread wrote:How can anyone want shapes over this?? The thing was ugly! (no offense to the maker.)


I love classic shapes for it's simplicity. I also like the fact it doesn't represent a map of countries, but something abstract instead. It takes away a lot of the distractions of a "real" map, so you can fully focus on the game itself.
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby MrBenn on Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:19 am

stahrgazer wrote:I can't tell where Europe ends and Asia begins

That's the joy of Eurasia!

What a way to finish off the year - many thanks to everybody who had an involvement with the revamp =D>
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby Hatchman on Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:48 am

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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby zimmah on Thu Dec 31, 2009 7:04 am

i'll almost miss the shapes, lol.

good job on the revamp
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby MajorRT on Thu Dec 31, 2009 8:57 am

FINALLY!!! and it does look "classic" !
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby mikamoyo on Thu Dec 31, 2009 10:50 am

You turned an easy to look at easy to play board into complicated.I can understand some players maybe wanted a little change,but this isnt it.Without studying the board you cant make out borders and the crazy white lines everywhere are just a bad headache.I can live with the grid change since you moved it.So now i have to scroll down to write other players (because your monster grid that extends allthe way across the screen with 2inches between figures)rather than being able to play a whole game without touching it.You guys turned easy and comfortable into complicated.My brother has MS and his computer is voice activated,I think you made it so he cant even play anymore.Your going the wrong way!
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby mikamoyo on Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:53 am

Feel like im playing Chutes and Ladders with my child!
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby skeletonboy on Thu Dec 31, 2009 11:58 am

mikamoyo wrote:You turned an easy to look at easy to play board into complicated.I can understand some players maybe wanted a little change,but this isnt it.Without studying the board you cant make out borders and the crazy white lines everywhere are just a bad headache.I can live with the grid change since you moved it.So now i have to scroll down to write other players (because your monster grid that extends allthe way across the screen with 2inches between figures)rather than being able to play a whole game without touching it.You guys turned easy and comfortable into complicated.My brother has MS and his computer is voice activated,I think you made it so he cant even play anymore.Your going the wrong way!


If you were in the foundry to give suggestions, you could have asked for something different. Go to the bug reports/suggestions forum and ask for shapes as an option.

I doubt that any of the people that are complaining even looked in the foundry in the long time that it was being developed. If you dont look in the forums, dont complain when there's a change you dont like.
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby niMic on Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:25 pm

It looks nice, but it could easily be confusing for newbies. Some colour coding is needed.
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby impassive on Thu Dec 31, 2009 2:12 pm

skeletonboy wrote:
mikamoyo wrote:You turned an easy to look at easy to play board into complicated.I can understand some players maybe wanted a little change,but this isnt it.Without studying the board you cant make out borders and the crazy white lines everywhere are just a bad headache.I can live with the grid change since you moved it.So now i have to scroll down to write other players (because your monster grid that extends allthe way across the screen with 2inches between figures)rather than being able to play a whole game without touching it.You guys turned easy and comfortable into complicated.My brother has MS and his computer is voice activated,I think you made it so he cant even play anymore.Your going the wrong way!


If you were in the foundry to give suggestions, you could have asked for something different. Go to the bug reports/suggestions forum and ask for shapes as an option.

I doubt that any of the people that are complaining even looked in the foundry in the long time that it was being developed. If you dont look in the forums, dont complain when there's a change you dont like.

This is a terrible sentiment. CC members should be able to voice an opinion at any time, subject to forum rules. NOT to beat something to death, of course. But 'you snoozed, you lost' just doesn't cut it.
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby sully800 on Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:13 pm

impassive wrote:
skeletonboy wrote:
mikamoyo wrote:You turned an easy to look at easy to play board into complicated.I can understand some players maybe wanted a little change,but this isnt it.Without studying the board you cant make out borders and the crazy white lines everywhere are just a bad headache.I can live with the grid change since you moved it.So now i have to scroll down to write other players (because your monster grid that extends allthe way across the screen with 2inches between figures)rather than being able to play a whole game without touching it.You guys turned easy and comfortable into complicated.My brother has MS and his computer is voice activated,I think you made it so he cant even play anymore.Your going the wrong way!


If you were in the foundry to give suggestions, you could have asked for something different. Go to the bug reports/suggestions forum and ask for shapes as an option.

I doubt that any of the people that are complaining even looked in the foundry in the long time that it was being developed. If you dont look in the forums, dont complain when there's a change you dont like.

This is a terrible sentiment. CC members should be able to voice an opinion at any time, subject to forum rules. NOT to beat something to death, of course. But 'you snoozed, you lost' just doesn't cut it.


Opinions and suggestions are always welcome, but at this stage suggestions carry much less power than during the actual development of the thread. The revamp was announced across the entire site, and many members helped during the development process to give opinions and suggestions on how to improve the map. Once the community was satisfied with the development this was the product. I know that not everyone is willing/able to participate in the map making process, but that is truly the best way to help improve the maps that are being made. Just the same, I appreciate all comments and constructive criticism - it's impossible to please everyone, but it seems like most posters so far prefer the new map.
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby Qwert on Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:31 pm

Good change,now its only left to remove 6 medals for creating disaster Clasic Art map,because for this map nobody deserve medal.
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby impassive on Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:05 pm

sully800 wrote:
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skeletonboy wrote:
mikamoyo wrote:You turned an easy to look at easy to play board into complicated.I can understand some players maybe wanted a little change,but this isnt it.Without studying the board you cant make out borders and the crazy white lines everywhere are just a bad headache.I can live with the grid change since you moved it.So now i have to scroll down to write other players (because your monster grid that extends allthe way across the screen with 2inches between figures)rather than being able to play a whole game without touching it.You guys turned easy and comfortable into complicated.My brother has MS and his computer is voice activated,I think you made it so he cant even play anymore.Your going the wrong way!


If you were in the foundry to give suggestions, you could have asked for something different. Go to the bug reports/suggestions forum and ask for shapes as an option.

I doubt that any of the people that are complaining even looked in the foundry in the long time that it was being developed. If you dont look in the forums, dont complain when there's a change you dont like.

This is a terrible sentiment. CC members should be able to voice an opinion at any time, subject to forum rules. NOT to beat something to death, of course. But 'you snoozed, you lost' just doesn't cut it.


Opinions and suggestions are always welcome, but at this stage suggestions carry much less power than during the actual development of the thread. The revamp was announced across the entire site, and many members helped during the development process to give opinions and suggestions on how to improve the map. Once the community was satisfied with the development this was the product. I know that not everyone is willing/able to participate in the map making process, but that is truly the best way to help improve the maps that are being made. Just the same, I appreciate all comments and constructive criticism - it's impossible to please everyone, but it seems like most posters so far prefer the new map.

The difference being that two non-beta maps that some members are fond of were retired at the same time, replaced mid-game. That was a jolt that made some members perk up who otherwise wouldn't have payed any attention.
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby the.killing.44 on Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:36 pm

qwert wrote:Good change,now its only left to remove 6 medals for creating disaster Clasic Art map,because for this map nobody deserve medal.

Get over it.
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Re: Classic Map Revamped

Postby K-dub on Thu Dec 31, 2009 5:54 pm

not bad at all...i like it...the lines can be a little crazy but it will take either a 2 year-old or a true idiot to getconfused over it...so i say congrats to the maker of this...u done pretty good!

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