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Re: Dice Stats

Postby Galatea on Wed May 25, 2011 12:04 pm

Galatea 4.7 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -17% 3.07 3 2 3 4 1 1 -8% 3.30 2 3 1 1 0 3
Defend -44% 2.40 1 3 0 0 1 0 +23% 4.07 2 1 3 2 2 5
Total -24% 2.89 4 5 3 4 2 1 +10% 3.76 4 4 4 3 2 8

Quite fair.... -24% for me and +10% for opponents... this reminds me that dice formula is not random not even balanced... Ahhh let me guess.. bad strategy ?
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed May 25, 2011 12:05 pm

snlfam wrote:It looks like the "Overall" stats go all the way back to when I joined... is this true? Do you really still have records of every dice roll all of us have ever made? Is there a way to get the stats for a single game? And just for a challenge (and so I can keep complaining :P ) how about a single round of a game?

Despite my critiques, you just made my day, week, and month! :mrgreen: Great work!


The Dice Stats were starting to be recorded and stored a couple of months ago I think.

As for stats of a single game, if it is a recent game, you can access it by comparing your opponents and you. But once it moves out of your 'recentness' it gets added to the Overall data. There is just too much information to make it completely feasible store every dice roll on Conquer Club (think, at any given time, we have 20k active users, with 20k active games---imagine how many dice rolls that is!) but this tool allows you to get recent snapshots (which you can store, or someone may right a tool to store), and the overall Dice History.


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Re: Dice Stats

Postby greenoaks on Wed May 25, 2011 12:07 pm

lackattack wrote:
Finding Tournament Games

The huge tournament picklist in the Game Finder had to go. It make it very difficult to select a tournament and added hundreds of kilobytes to the page! Now you can type in part of the tournament name to find matching games. We also added a handy [find games] link to the on the Tournament Finder so you can get tournamnet games from that route as well.


you've made it worse. game finder is useless now.

if i type in a partial for the tournament i want it will give me the games from every tournament ever to have that partial in the name.

if i search for games via the tournament tab then i get every game for that tournament.

at least the old game finder allowed me to choose which tournament from the partial name i wanted before displaying the results. bring that back.
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed May 25, 2011 12:07 pm

Galatea wrote:Galatea 4.7 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -17% 3.07 3 2 3 4 1 1 -8% 3.30 2 3 1 1 0 3
Defend -44% 2.40 1 3 0 0 1 0 +23% 4.07 2 1 3 2 2 5
Total -24% 2.89 4 5 3 4 2 1 +10% 3.76 4 4 4 3 2 8

Quite fair.... -24% for me and +10% for opponents... this reminds me that dice formula is not random not even balanced... Ahhh let me guess.. bad strategy ?


Look at your last 25 recent rolls though:

Recent dice rolls (25 battles)
Galatea 4.7 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -6% 3.36 9 5 9 11 10 3 -16% 3.09 7 10 10 8 4 4
Defend 0% 3.51 13 13 7 11 12 13 +6% 3.65 18 33 24 22 19 36
Total -2% 3.45 22 18 16 22 22 16 +1% 3.53 25 43 34 30 23 40


While you have hit some bad luck, your opponents have hit much more bad luck assaulting you.


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Re: Dice Stats

Postby ISN2 on Wed May 25, 2011 12:08 pm

Very nice update and I like it, nice stats collector/shower and thanks ...

But 2 things I don't like:

1. Facebook like on top of each page takes a few seconds longer than rest of page to load. Pages get loaded impatiently but that little like box takes a few seconds and is annoying ...
It could be nice if it was only on homepage, not every page ...

2. Also blinking red NEW is on my nerve, it does not allow me to focus on my games, it could be so nice if it be only a red NEW text in place of blinking ...
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed May 25, 2011 12:09 pm

greenoaks wrote:
lackattack wrote:
Finding Tournament Games

The huge tournament picklist in the Game Finder had to go. It make it very difficult to select a tournament and added hundreds of kilobytes to the page! Now you can type in part of the tournament name to find matching games. We also added a handy [find games] link to the on the Tournament Finder so you can get tournamnet games from that route as well.


you've made it worse. game finder is useless now.

if i type in a partial for the tournament i want it will give me the games from every tournament ever to have that partial in the name.


You can do this, can't you, via the Tournament Finder? In the Tournaments Tab, in the Tournament Finder, you can use the partial to find all tournaments that match your entry, and then you can select the games you want, via the [Find Games] for the Tournament.


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Re: Dice Stats

Postby lackattack on Wed May 25, 2011 12:09 pm

greenoaks wrote:if i type in a partial for the tournament i want it will give me the games from every tournament ever to have that partial in the name.

if i search for games via the tournament tab then i get every game for that tournament.

at least the old game finder allowed me to choose which tournament from the partial name i wanted before displaying the results. bring that back.


What is the partial text you used and what is the tournament's full name?
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby AndyDufresne on Wed May 25, 2011 12:10 pm

ISN2 wrote:Very nice update and I like it, nice stats collector/shower and thanks ...

But 2 things I don't like:

1. Facebook like on top of each page takes a few seconds longer than rest of page to load. Pages get loaded impatiently but that little like box takes a few seconds and is annoying ...
It could be nice if it was only on homepage, not every page ...

2. Also blinking red NEW is on my nerve, it does not allow me to focus on my games, it could be so nice if it be only a red NEW text in place of blinking ...


Both are only temporary, and will be gone soon enough. ;)


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Re: Dice Stats

Postby Pyrhhus on Wed May 25, 2011 12:11 pm

greenoaks wrote:
lackattack wrote:
Finding Tournament Games

The huge tournament picklist in the Game Finder had to go. It make it very difficult to select a tournament and added hundreds of kilobytes to the page! Now you can type in part of the tournament name to find matching games. We also added a handy [find games] link to the on the Tournament Finder so you can get tournamnet games from that route as well.


you've made it worse. game finder is useless now.

if i type in a partial for the tournament i want it will give me the games from every tournament ever to have that partial in the name.

if i search for games via the tournament tab then i get every game for that tournament.

at least the old game finder allowed me to choose which tournament from the partial name i wanted before displaying the results. bring that back.


I completely disagree. The new searching system is far more intuitive and easier on the eyes. I would encourage greenoaks to be more exact with his search parameters.
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby Galatea on Wed May 25, 2011 12:12 pm

what do i win having more luck on assaults if they kill all my army when i'm defending?
Recent dice rolls (25 battles)
Galatea 4.7 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -6% 3.36 9 5 9 11 10 3 -16% 3.09 7 10 10 8 4 4
Defend 0% 3.51 13 13 7 11 12 13 +6% 3.65 18 33 24 22 19 36
Total -2% 3.45 22 18 16 22 22 16 +1% 3.53 25 43 34 30 23 40

look at % not only for assault but also defend...
whatever.. its not going to change... keep the good work its a good improvement.
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby rjhankey on Wed May 25, 2011 12:14 pm

If we send in additional $$$ with our yearly premium registration, is there a way to purchase additional luck? :lol:

I like the dice stats addition -- thanks!!
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby IcePack on Wed May 25, 2011 12:22 pm

I knew I was getting f'd over by certain people. 65%!?!?!! holy shit no wonder I lot 3 in a row vs them :(
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby GloryOfThe80s on Wed May 25, 2011 12:24 pm

GloryOfThe80s 4.8 all opponents (last 25 battles)
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -8% 3.30 11 8 16 5 9 8 0% 3.50 5 7 7 5 6 6
Defend -7% 3.33 6 7 4 7 4 5 0% 3.51 8 20 4 12 13 11
Total -8% 3.31 17 15 20 12 13 13 0% 3.51 13 27 11 17 19 17

don't know what to make of that.. being close to 0% would mean it's balanced?
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby OliverFA on Wed May 25, 2011 12:28 pm

I like that statistic. Well done!
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby greenoaks on Wed May 25, 2011 12:30 pm

i typed in best. i have 5 tournaments starting with that.

4 of mine will have 360 games. the other will have 570 games. the prior way i could select which tourney and what player, whether i wanted active, finalised or waiting, what round, etc

the tournament tab allows me to select which tournament but not any criteria
the game finder allows me to select the criteria but not which tournament
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby Squirly on Wed May 25, 2011 12:45 pm

lokisgal wrote:Make it stop flashing NEW! its very annoying

THIS!
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby mattattam on Wed May 25, 2011 12:52 pm

Galatea wrote:what do i win having more luck on assaults if they kill all my army when i'm defending?
Recent dice rolls (25 battles)
Galatea 4.7 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -6% 3.36 9 5 9 11 10 3 -16% 3.09 7 10 10 8 4 4
Defend 0% 3.51 13 13 7 11 12 13 +6% 3.65 18 33 24 22 19 36
Total -2% 3.45 22 18 16 22 22 16 +1% 3.53 25 43 34 30 23 40

look at % not only for assault but also defend...
whatever.. its not going to change... keep the good work its a good improvement.


You are a complainer. You only see what's negative for you and not what's positive or negative for another. Wake up dude!
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby natty dread on Wed May 25, 2011 1:00 pm

greenoaks wrote:
if i type in a partial for the tournament i want it will give me the games from every tournament ever to have that partial in the name.


Try checking the "waiting for players" checkbox.
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby TheCrown on Wed May 25, 2011 1:06 pm

Ok, as an organizer for running a clan war... typing in "2011" to find my clan war games brings up over 10,000 games... is there a way to narrow it down?
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby Galatea on Wed May 25, 2011 1:08 pm

mattattam wrote:
You are a complainer. You only see what's negative for you and not what's positive or negative for another. Wake up dude!


Yes i am... i'm gonna start complaining every time i win... its true... its unfair... i should loose all game for a balanced game...

Get real...
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby flexmaster33 on Wed May 25, 2011 1:12 pm

an incredible addition that addresses the most common complaint on these boards (not one of mine, btw)...hopefully, it shows people that in the end the dice more or less even out, but I'm sure complainers will still skew the #s in some way to make their gripe "valid" in their mind. :)

It is fun to check it out...the last five games feature shows just how streaky the dice can be.
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby Renee_W on Wed May 25, 2011 1:24 pm

Ironically, it appears the dice have actually been working slightly against me. lol

My overall numbers are flat while my opponents have a 1%(also ironic since I used that value in an example) edge.

In battle outcomes there is significant(expected) variance in the small numbers but my main assault numbers are -1%.

This being ironic since I always assumed the dice balanced out over the long run but so far mine haven't yet. lol

Btw it might be obvious but I'm missing something... how do you get a 1v1 battle? lol
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby gingerswimmer on Wed May 25, 2011 1:39 pm

Im guna be honest here


i jizzed when i saw this

great job guys, love it
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby Leehar on Wed May 25, 2011 1:42 pm

Renee_W wrote:Btw it might be obvious but I'm missing something... how do you get a 1v1 battle? lol

I think it has to do with the dice being thrown instead of the armies attacking.
So basically a 1v1 is when you actually attack with 2 armies vs 1 where each side throws 1 die.
2v2 is 3arm vs 2, and 3v2 is 4+arm vs 2+ :-s
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Re: Dice Stats

Postby muchalls on Wed May 25, 2011 1:48 pm

good addition this My Dice Stats....only issue I have is it shows me at -58% for attacks and an overall total of -14%... which is a true reflection of my stinking luck in this game...
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