Round Limits

[Chariot of Fire]

Just playing Devil's Advocate here ender, but if the new sitting feature doesn't allow access to the Inbox (which I actually believe is a good thing - I hate having my mail read) it could result in that player being kicked out of tourney games if the invite has gone via PM. I think we've all been in the scenario whereby an absent player has asked for PMs to be checked and tourney games to be joined.

Is it possible therefore to change the structure of the mail system, whereby new PMs arrive in an Inbox and any read messages (i.e. the old ones that the user wishes to keep) get moved to a 'Read Items' folder? A sitter would only have access to the Inbox, thus ensuring confidentiality of saved messages whilst still allowing new PMs to be read and tourney games, if invited, joined.

[ender516]

I guess I have to be more careful about my pronouncements. I don't know for certain what the sitter feature would entail exactly, and I believe that there is a topic in the Suggestions forum to discuss it in detail. I was mostly trying to point out that the sitter feaure would not involve an AI taking your turns for you.

Anyway, when you create a game, can't you invite players and have that show up on their My Games page, without using a PM?

[swimmerdude99]

The sitting feature is intended to give better control of account sitting, where one player covers turns for another. Right now, this is done by giving away passwords, a risky business. The built-in feature would control the authorization by one player of another to take turns, without permitting access to profiles, inboxes, and so on.

Ohhhh. Cool, I'm sorry for my statement and being out of the loop on that one, I agree that would be nice. This would mean that it would automatically post who took the turn as well correct?

[denominator]

I guess I have to be more careful about my pronouncements. I don't know for certain what the sitter feature would entail exactly, and I believe that there is a topic in the Suggestions forum to discuss it in detail. I was mostly trying to point out that the sitter feaure would not involve an AI taking your turns for you.

Anyway, when you create a game, can't you invite players and have that show up on their My Games page, without using a PM?

Very true. Although from what some tournament organizers have told me, it is sometimes simpler to send out a PM with a bunch of game links for players to join than inviting each individual player to each game. Think Map Blaster - where each player plays over 170 games, that would require over 1000 invites for one group alone. Or HA's 200th tourney - where players are PMed instructions on how to join the next round, but no invites could be sent.

Perhaps something else in the coding that the PM sender can tick off for "sitter can read".

[ender516]

Coordinating the PMs (part of the forum database) with the sitter feature (part of the game database) strikes me as tricky, but I don't honestly know. It might be better to have the sitter PM the TO for special dispensation in these cases. I would hope that the absent player would let a sitter know that there was a tournament with games that the sitter would need to join.

[eddie2]

why are we talking about pms for tourneys. if someone is being sat for they are meant to tell the organiser anyway.

[firstholliday]

[QoH]

why are we talking about pms for tourneys. if someone is being sat for they are meant to tell the organiser anyway.

Do you EVER read the thread?

[ender516]

We do seem to have drifted away from the discussion of Round Limits.

[DJ Teflon]

Round Limits

Great idea - professionally introduced.

Hats off to the Great Turtle and our Ancient Ancestor for getting feedback quickly from several places.

Nice job CC!



(P.S. 1'd still love a 15 round option for speed )

[shijinn]

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But if the primary factor was territories or bonuses, it's different (and I think better). The player who is strategic enough to barricade themselves off from multiple attackers, while racing around and ensuring no one else has a higher territory count, or bonus count, probably deserves to win. The downside is that it offers a real disadvantage to the guy that goes first.

I suspect the optimum way would be to choose the winner based upon several factors.

Total number of bonuses
Total number of territories (factors different if different number of territories in the variant)
The remaining number of men


It might be more complex to figure out, but that is GOOD because it gives a player several ways to win, the point weighing reflects the actual strategy considerations, the special suicide end game strategy is minimized, and it would provide several strategies for winning as the turn clock ticked down, instead of only one.

Is the current "end value" computation of this new variant written in stone?

Regards,

NVRijn

this. control over the map should be given a heavier weightage than simply having more men from turtling.

[qwertylpc]

Would have liked the option for a game to be a 'Draw' when the limit is reached (i.e. no winner - no points)

i agree

[BigBallinStalin]

Would have liked the option for a game to be a 'Draw' when the limit is reached (i.e. no winner - no points)

i agree

Who are you? And what have you done with qwert?

[demonfork]

5000 or so games with round limits have ended so far. Less than 100 of them reached their limits.

An update was done for something that happens 2% of the time, what a waste.

[denominator]

5000 or so games with round limits have ended so far. Less than 100 of them reached their limits.

An update was done for something that happens 2% of the time, what a waste.

While I agree with that stat, most of the games that would have reached their limits would have been the 20-rounders. I believe, in a month or so, the 100 rounders will start coming into effect and the percentage will bump a bit (probably to 5%).

Furthermore, that's only the games that have round limits turned on - I can only assume an even greater number of games have ended with round limits turned off. So it's actually far less than 2% of the time that round limits determine the game.