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by **DiM** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:37 am

why do you guys assume people are using some sort of magical programs that automatically point out to differences?
there's no such thing as far as i know.
one easy solution would be to download the image cut it in half then put them on top of eachother and see what changed.
i still wouldn't count it as cheating though. if somebody knows how to do it then kudos to them. it doesn't say anywhere that you must use your naked eye. heck nobody even knows who spots those differences. maybe i asked my wife for help. is that also cheating?

yeah i was one of the people that complained the differences were too easy to spot because they were. the first 2 maps were really really easy, the 3rd wasn't hard either. in fact it was more confusing than difficult.
but after the 4th one i haven't said a single word. that's the perfect level if you want a true competition. if all maps were like #4 we wouldn't have had dozens of people tied for 1st place.

@zimmah, why would you bother with gimp when there's a much more convenient solution? simply hold the ctrl button on your keyboard and use your mouse wheel to zoom in/out. that's what i do. it works in firefox, i don't know about other browsers.

by **Leehar** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:43 am

DiM wrote:@zimmah, why would you bother with gimp when there's a much more convenient solution? simply hold the ctrl button on your keyboard and use your mouse wheel to zoom in/out. that's what i do. it works in firefox, i don't know about other browsers.

It works on everything in windows

by **Madstuthe1st** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:47 am

Should you still be able to submit your answers if you've already done it? I'm sure I have put in todays answers but when I went back to the page it's allowing me to enter........fairly sure on all the other maps that you couldn't submit again once you've done it once.....

Don't want to lose my 100% record, this one was harder but I rather that personally.

by **White Buffalo** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:50 am

DiM wrote: simply hold the ctrl button on your keyboard and use your mouse wheel to zoom in/out.

WOW I used a real ruler on my 12 inch laptop and moved in cm it took me 2.30 hours. Your method is fab. Thx

by **DiM** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:51 am

Madstuthe1st wrote:Should you still be able to submit your answers if you've already done it? I'm sure I have put in todays answers but when I went back to the page it's allowing me to enter........fairly sure on all the other maps that you couldn't submit again once you've done it once.....

Don't want to lose my 100% record, this one was harder but I rather that personally.

you're right. that's weird i can also submit answers again even though i did it once.

i'll do it again just to be sure. :mrgreen:

edit//
"You have already entered this contest. Please wait until a new contest starts to enter again"

so i can fill out the form but i can't submit it. i should not be able to fill it at all if i already submitted once.

by **zimmah** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:21 am

Leehar wrote:You know to resize you can just do ctrl + scroll?

even just resizing isn't enough. it helps, but it's not enough.

by **Ffraid** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 11:28 am

White Buffalo wrote:
DiM wrote: simply hold the ctrl button on your keyboard and use your mouse wheel to zoom in/out.

WOW I used a real ruler on my 12 inch laptop and moved in cm it took me 2.30 hours. Your method is fab. Thx

I didn't know about that ctrl+wheel thing either. What I've been doing is copying the picture to my computer and opening it in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer and zooming in that way (and it still took me about 2 ½ hrs. to find the last one!).

by **ender516** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 12:08 pm

I did the whole thing by opening the contest page in two tabs, and scrolling them so that I could switch tabs back and forth like an astronomer using a blink comparator. 8-)

I wish I had thought of zooming in. #-o

by **MrBenn** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:13 pm

Wow, two of them were tricky... but by no means impossible. If you genuinely cannot see the differences with your eyes (and a bit of zooming in) then you probably need to adjust your monitor settings a bit.

by **jcamauve** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:20 pm

I have a problem... when I tried to submit my answers I got a message saying, "You have already entered this contest. Please wait until a new contest starts to enter again." This was my only submission for Fractured America, but I have done a couple of the other maps too. Does anyone know what the problem is?

Thanks!

by **zimmah** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:40 pm

DiM wrote:why do you guys assume people are using some sort of magical programs that automatically point out to differences?
there's no such thing as far as i know.

actually, you can do that in gimp.

i could tell you exactly how, but i guess that would not be allowed.

by **Dako** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:44 pm

zimmah wrote:
DiM wrote:why do you guys assume people are using some sort of magical programs that automatically point out to differences?
there's no such thing as far as i know.

actually, you can do that in gimp.

i could tell you exactly how, but i guess that would not be allowed.

Both GIMP and Photoshop can do this, yes.

by **zimmah** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:47 pm

MrBenn wrote:Wow, two of them were tricky... but by no means impossible. If you genuinely cannot see the differences with your eyes (and a bit of zooming in) then you probably need to adjust your monitor settings a bit.

i have to admit it's 100 times easier to spot if you make the whole map brighter. that being said, the map looks 10 times better when it's brighter as well.

if the next map is this dark, i know what to do. either way, i now know a sweet trick to reveal any and all differences within a few seconds, no matter how small.

fair? maybe not. but so is adding differences the size of a few pixels.

P.S. as soon as the contest is over, i will post an example of how i did it. (note, i only used it on the 4th map, but if i can still find the images of the other maps i might show those as well).

by **DiM** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 2:56 pm

Dako wrote:
zimmah wrote:
DiM wrote:why do you guys assume people are using some sort of magical programs that automatically point out to differences?
there's no such thing as far as i know.

actually, you can do that in gimp.

i could tell you exactly how, but i guess that would not be allowed.

Both GIMP and Photoshop can do this, yes.

huh. i've been using photoshop for years and had no idea it's possible.
so what? you load 2 images and how exactly does it point the differences? are they highlighted? or circled?

again, i'm talking about some form of automation where precise modifications are shown not by superimposing the 2 images and working with the layer modes.

by **thenobodies80** on Tue Oct 25, 2011 4:01 pm

DiM wrote:
Dako wrote:
zimmah wrote:
DiM wrote:why do you guys assume people are using some sort of magical programs that automatically point out to differences?
there's no such thing as far as i know.

actually, you can do that in gimp.

i could tell you exactly how, but i guess that would not be allowed.

Both GIMP and Photoshop can do this, yes.

huh. i've been using photoshop for years and had no idea it's possible.
so what? you load 2 images and how exactly does it point the differences? are they highlighted? or circled?

again, i'm talking about some form of automation where precise modifications are shown not by superimposing the 2 images and working with the layer modes.